[geagle]

@Sound Eq they should be the Spiral Dots + , which came stock with the JVC FD01, and were previously unavailable as an accessory separately from accompanying earphones... I had some impressions here : https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the...essions-pg2507.586909/page-2566#post-14546165

They seem to cost quite a bit more than standard Spiral Dots, though (3 times as much on Amazon JP)

 

[blacksesame]

Sharing my best tips so far, may not works for everyone since our canals are unique.

The real Best of two world is here!

JVC spiral dots known for producing best sound, wider soundstage, reducing harsh peaks, and cut mid bass bleed, however for some people its isolation isnt the best to offer.
I got idea from my sony hybrid, and I bought symbio W also, took out symbio W orange memory foam and put inside JVC spiral dots, works quite good actually but a bit stiff.
So i got my spare comply memory foam S series, the one with wider pore. cut it, and put into JVC spiral dots. The result is amazing!! you got the best from JVC spiral dots with extra isolation and extra fit but not too tight and smoothly molded to your ear canal shape.

Here my tutorial with picture :

very nice. how did you remove the core from the foam?

 

[DynamicEars]

very nice. how did you remove the core from the foam?

just peel it slowly, its easier than its look, they just glued the foam on the plastic stem

 

[blacksesame]

just peel it slowly, its easier than its look, they just glued the foam on the plastic stem

thanks .i have some extra foams ill try it

 

[blacksesame]

just peel it slowly, its easier than its look, they just glued the foam on the plastic stem

It's a lot easier than I thought! Thanks @DynamicEars

I messed up a bit..i cut the foam a bit short but it's still good.

 

[bk123]

Can someone help to know the measurement of Spiraldot and Acoustene medium eartips. I have spiral dots medium and thinking to buy AET07 medium.
if anyone having experience with both eartips, a brief review is appreciated. I like Sprialdots very much. Most of my earphone are wide bore and sprial dot best suited for me. Heard good things about Acoustene AET07 and just wanted to give it a try.

 

[tim0chan]

Can someone help to know the measurement of Spiraldot and Acoustene medium eartips. I have spiral dots medium and thinking to buy AET07 medium.
if anyone having experience with both eartips, a brief review is appreciated. I like Sprialdots very much. Most of my earphone are wide bore and sprial dot best suited for me. Heard good things about Acoustene AET07 and just wanted to give it a try.

Both are the same size. Aet07 will have slightly sharper treble

 

[bk123]

Both are the same size. Aet07 will have slightly sharper treble

Thank tim0chan, I just ordered Acoustene AET07 medium size three pairs for HK$99 from this shop:https://www.mtmtshop.com

 

[Ocelitgol]

This is probably a silly question, but...in terms of comfort and sound is there any difference between genuine Sony Hybrid tips and the innumerable knockoffs?

yes. Sony Hybrid (new ones that come with IER line) are a bit softer and smoother to the touch. Brings out treble but not too much. Less bass though. Seal very well without sticking to your ears (if you get the size right). Isolation is OK
Here's my moded Sony Hyrbid with Shure olives foam. Best tips i've ever tried (Symbios hurt my ears or else they're probably my favorites)

 

[Toastybob]

yes. Sony Hybrid (new ones that come with IER line) are a bit softer and smoother to the touch. Brings out treble but not too much. Less bass though. Seal very well without sticking to your ears (if you get the size right). Isolation is OK
Here's my moded Sony Hyrbid with Shure olives foam. Best tips i've ever tried (Symbios hurt my ears or else they're probably my favorites)

How did you remove the plastic bore from the foam tip? I'm interested in trying this too.

 

[Slater]

Flip Tips:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/flip-tips-prepare-to-have-your-mind-blown.906357/

 

[raymogi]

After going through the usual names, I ended up with Azla SednaEarfit. Fits me like a glove and didn’t change the sound imo.

Before the Azlas, I was quite content with Spiral Dots and Ortofons. But after someone mentioned about the Azlas in one of the threads here I gotta try it out cause I’m a sucker for JDM tips.

 

[Ocelitgol]

How did you remove the plastic bore from the foam tip? I'm interested in trying this too.

you can also use Comply as well (and it's easier). Shure olive stick very hard to the plastic tube so I had to push down the foam in circular around the tube (push from the bottom of the tip toward the top). It took awhile

 

[davidcotton]

For those that have both is there much difference in symbios and spiral dots? I can get symbios easily, but getting spiral dots means ordering from penon which I haven't done before. Anything to look out for whilst ordering from Penon? Ie will I get a phone call from the bank, or will using paypal be ok?

Thanks

 

[CoFire]

For those that have both is there much difference in symbios and spiral dots? I can get symbios easily, but getting spiral dots means ordering from penon which I haven't done before. Anything to look out for whilst ordering from Penon? Ie will I get a phone call from the bank, or will using paypal be ok?

Thanks

For me, these are quite different.

Symbios W (peeled) have a stiffer silicone, are slightly smaller in OD and the bore though on the larger side is smaller than the Spiral dot. The sound effect for me is that the mid bass is slightly accentuated, highs fairly controlled if not attenuated slightly and the soundstage is medium sized. In my opinion, the New Bees tips are darn near identical in sound and construction but use a softer silicone which for me is more comfortable for prolonged listening. The New Bees sizes are a tiny bit larger. I use the large tips in both.

The Spiral Dots have a softer silicone, hence are more comfortable than the Symbios and New Bees and the bore is larger with the Spiral dot pattern. The mid bass is flatter allowing more subbass presence and the highs extended giving a larger soundstage. I consider these tips more neutral with the largest soundstage of tips I've tried. The OD of these tips larger than the equivalent Symbios and New Bees sizes and for me are a better fit and provide a better seal.

With most IEMs, when new, if they have too much treble, I'll use a Sony Hybrid tip, MH755 tip or Symbio/New Bees to control the treble. I've found once burned in, if the treble subsides, i switch to the Spiral Dot and that will be my preferred to unless i want to kick up the low end and attenuate treble. You don't have to believe in burn in, but that's my experience and I have a couple data points supporting this.