Aug 21, 2020 at 5:56 PM Post #31 of 107
I'm just ahead of the times😉

NOMAX

PS.lol
 
Aug 23, 2020 at 9:56 AM Post #33 of 107
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Aug 23, 2020 at 1:55 PM Post #34 of 107
Closed-back or open back? :D Any idea on the release date? I'm also interested in the new T1 haha... but I might wait if the new HP of Sennheiser is something like HD650 with more sub-bass.

Danke für ihre Antwort!
 
Aug 24, 2020 at 12:28 PM Post #36 of 107
Closed-back or open back? :D Any idea on the release date? I'm also interested in the new T1 haha... but I might wait if the new HP of Sennheiser is something like HD650 with more sub-bass.

Danke für ihre Antwort!

.....let yourself be surprised

NOMAX

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Aug 24, 2020 at 2:22 PM Post #38 of 107
What we need right now is something awesome, but affordable...

The 600 is already awesome. The 820 is out of my price range. I'd like a pair of closed Sennheiser cans that would be clearly better than the DT1770s at a similar price point, Sennheiser house sound. And if you make them woodies, that's the awesome part.

Made in Germany, in house. Back to basics :)
 
Aug 24, 2020 at 4:39 PM Post #39 of 107
As far as commenting on future releases, all companies stick to “We can’t discuss future plans at this time.” There’s many very good reasons for that... one being that there are constantly rumors and the majority of them are fun guesses that don’t come to pass, another reason is that any number of things can happen (constant prototype variants, improvements, delays, etc) so a product and release date is never “set” until it’s publicly announced. The latter is especially true now with the pandemic changing everything from the ability of staff to work, shipping, etc.

So, the best way to think of things is that Sennheiser has staff permanently dedicated to developing new things, researching, experimenting and innovating, but Sennheiser will announce when it’s time to get excited.
 
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #40 of 107
I'm not hopeful after the debacle that is the tuning of the HD820.

HD820 is the best sounding closed headphone I've ever heard with by far the best soundstage, as opposed to the usual midbass-bloated claustophobic sound sig most closed headphones have

I'd have to question what gear you heard it on, how much time you spent with it and under what conditions, or if you even heard it at all for that matter. If you just look at a frequency response curve and draw a conclusion you are doing it wrong.
 
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Aug 25, 2020 at 11:21 AM Post #41 of 107
HD820 is the best sounding closed headphone I've ever heard with by far the best soundstage, as opposed to the usual midbass-bloated claustophobic sound sig most closed headphones have

I'd have to question what gear you heard it on, how much time you spent with it and under what conditions, or if you even heard it at all for that matter. If you just look at a frequency response curve and draw a conclusion you are doing it wrong.
It would be very very good headphones, but when HD800 and S version ALREADY have weak mids and considering that HD820 inreased bass then it is recipe for non existant mids.Yes these all sound wide, but all of them have poor mids. I hope Sennheiser will gonna have common sense and will prefer tonal balance instead of going for big soundstage aka Boring mids.
 
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:23 AM Post #42 of 107
It would be very very good headphones, but when HD800 and S version ALREADY have weak mids and considering that HD820 inreased bass then it is recipe for non existant mids.Yes these all sound wide, but all of them have poor mids. I hope Sennheiser will gonna have common sense and will prefer tonal balance instead of going for big soundstage aka Boring mids.
Big soundstage is the point of the HD8xx/HD7xx series. Part of creating the big soundstage is the driver positioning and psychoacoustical impact of the unique frequency response curve on soundstage. If you don't want big soundstage and instead want more mids that's what HD6xx series is for.

Sennheiser has a solution either way, but in my case I find "m0ar mids" boring and would prefer to have soundstage that sounds realistic instead of in my head like typical headphone.
 
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Aug 25, 2020 at 11:28 AM Post #43 of 107
Big soundstage is the point of the HD8xx/HD7xx series. Part of creating the big soundstage is the driver positioning and psychoacoustical impact of the unique frequency response curve. If you don't want big soundstage and instead want more mids that's what HD6xx series is for.
Who wants ancient headphones that cant do bass and and simply lack speed, technicalities. People want tonaly correct headphones that dont need eq or specific gear to sound great.
 
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:30 AM Post #44 of 107
Who wants ancient headphones that cant do bass and and simply lack speed, technicalities. People want tonaly correct headphones that dont need eq or specific gear to sound great.
What you are describing is actually the "ancient" tech, which was mastered with the tonally neutral HD600 in 1997. It was already done over two decades ago.

HD8xx offers new technology that allows headphones to have open sound like a speaker instead of sounding artificial "in your head" like typical headphone. The new tech comes with tradeoffs but I'll gladly take them for a more realistic sound. There is no time when listening to sound in real life that it is beamed on-axis into your ear canal from 1" away like typical headphone.
 
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Aug 25, 2020 at 11:37 AM Post #45 of 107
What you are describing is actually the "ancient" tech, which was mastered with the tonally flat/correct HD600 in 1997.

HD8xx offers new technology that allows headphones to have open sound like a speaker instead of sounding artificial "in your head" like typical headphone. The new tech comes with tradeoffs but I'll gladly take them for a more realistic sound.
Its not tonnaly correct when bass is absolutely rolled of and Highs too. With eq i can make my HD800S sound trully flat. Focal clear for me sound flat whitout any eq.
Besides Speakers have much better mids while sound much wider, so i dont think sound is simmilar to speakers either.
 

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