Audioquests new Dragonfly Cobalt @TTVJAudio.com
Jul 22, 2019 at 5:24 AM Post #106 of 155
Am the only one who feels AQ kind of missed an opportunity with the Cobalt to get away from the whole semi-obsolete USB-stick form factor? I don’t think Apple still makes a laptop that uses USB-A anymore, and quite a few PC laptops have followed suit. Seems like they had the chance to revamp the product in such a way that it would integrate more smoothly into modern computers, not to mention phones, pads, and tablets. I would have liked to see it with a standard female USB-C port on the end. And with an included cable that’s long enough to connect to the centered port on an iPad/tablet when it’s propped up in landscape mode. Ah, well. Actually, AQ should at least get on the longer cable thing. They should totally produce a Dragontail long enough for use with an iPad when it’s on the Smart Keyboard...

Also, can anybody who’s listened to the Cobalt confirm if it has at least fixed the volume problem with IEMs? With respect to DF lovers, I’ve always found them kind of pointless. Don’t get me wrong, every iteration I’ve heard sounds great, but they are tiny, and seemingly built only to power full-sized cans... at the expense of a low enough base volume for sensitive IEMs. I know there are people who just loooove to power hungry headphones with tiny amps (“Can I run my STAX L700 with something the size of a Chiclet? Let’s see!”), but I’ve always found that a little silly, if you consider actual usage. If I’m going to lug, say, a pair of 600Ohm DT880s to Starbucks, then I’ve already made a commitment in terms of bag space and weight. At that point, a Mojo or similar is fine... I’m already carrying a large bag, and it’s going to be heavy... Meaning an extra half a pound and a few more cubic inches isn’t a huge deal. But when I’m going light with a pair of IEMs, I like to keep my rig as compact as possible. I guess what I’m trying to articulate is that when I look at something the size of the Dragonfly, I have to think that portability was something the designers considered a lot. And IEMs are probably more popular than full-size headphones as a mobile option. So to make the thing too loud for most IEMs always struck me as... Odd. Anyway, here’s hoping the Cobalt has extended the low-volume listening range. If it has, I’d love to see how it stacks up against the Apogee Groove 30th...
 
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Jul 22, 2019 at 8:43 AM Post #107 of 155
Am the only one who feels AQ kind of missed an opportunity with the Cobalt to get away from the whole semi-obsolete USB-stick form factor? I don’t think Apple still makes a laptop that uses USB-A anymore, and quite a few PC laptops have followed suit. Seems like they had the chance to revamp the product in such a way that it would integrate more smoothly into modern computers, not to mention phones, pads, and tablets. I would have liked to see it with a standard female USB-C port on the end. And with an included cable that’s long enough to connect to the centered port on an iPad/tablet when it’s propped up in landscape mode. Ah, well. Actually, AQ should at least get on the longer cable thing. They should totally produce a Dragontail long enough for use with an iPad when it’s on the Smart Keyboard...

Also, can anybody who’s listened to the Cobalt confirm if it has at least fixed the volume problem with IEMs? With respect to DF lovers, I’ve always found them kind of pointless. Don’t get me wrong, every iteration I’ve heard sounds great, but they are tiny, and seemingly built only to power full-sized cans... at the expense of a low enough base volume for sensitive IEMs. I know there are people who just loooove to power hungry headphones with tiny amps (“Can I run my STAX L700 with something the size of a Chiclet? Let’s see!”), but I’ve always found that a little silly, if you consider actual usage. If I’m going to lug, say, a pair of 600Ohm DT880s to Starbucks, then I’ve already made a commitment in terms of bag space and weight. At that point, a Mojo or similar is fine... I’m already carrying a large bag, and it’s going to be heavy... Meaning an extra half a pound and three cubic inches isn’t a huge deal. But when I’m going light with a pair of IEMs, I like to keep my rig as compact as possible. I guess what I’m trying to articulate is that when I look at something the size of the Dragonfly, I have to think that portability was something the designers considered a lot. And IEMs are probably more popular than full-size headphones as a mobile option. So to make the thing too loud for most IEMs always struck me as... Odd. Anyway, here’s hoping the Cobalt has extended the low-volume listening range. If it has, I’d love to see how it stacks up against the Apogee Groove 30th...

Yeah, it is a missed oppourtunity. I travel a lot with my small laptop, always take my AQ Dragonfly Black because it's just so much easier to deal with than even something like my Schiit Fulla.
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 1:08 PM Post #108 of 155
The second loaner program has been announced in the previous loaner thread. Sign up now and get to hear this awesome new piece from Audioquest.

As for the USB stick vs USB C, the supplied cable takes the strain off of the usb output and protects your computer or phone from a break or bad connection problem. Plus it is a better connection - I wouldn't want my $1K phone with anything sticking out of it for storage in my pocket.

Todd
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 1:12 PM Post #109 of 155
Reviews of the Dragonfly Cobalt by those who get paid to write reviews... in stock at TTVJAudio.com

DragonFly Cobalt Press



Monday, July 8

Darko.Audio


Winner: Darko Knock Out Award





  • “Cobalt is one of the best solutions out there for portable audio—getting the best from your phone or the best from your laptop whilst out on the go.” [11:15]
  • Regarding concerns about power usage: “I can’t stress this enough, actually: The DragonFly does not hammer the battery of the host phone… So, if you think this is going to kill your battery, you’re wrong.” [7:58]
  • Comparing Cobalt to Red: “Cobalt gives us a larger, fuller sound, and it’s more effortless with dynamics.” [11:47]
  • Comparing Cobalt to other DACs: “I can’t think of another DAC that let alone sounds as good for its price point, but also can be used with computers and with smartphones… I think that is absolutely bloody fantastic… I cannot enthuse about this product enough. It’s bloody amazing.” [12:57]


The Absolute Sound

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/art...erformance-portable-usb-dac-dragonfly-cobalt/



WiFi HiFi

https://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHeadlines/NewAudioQuestDragonFlyCobaltDAC/Amp.html



Audiophile Style

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/bits-and-bytes/new-audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-r817/



Twittering Machines

https://twitteringmachines.com/theres-a-new-dragonfly-in-town-meet-cobalt/



Major HiFi

https://majorhifi.com/enter-the-dragonfly-new-audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-unleashed/



Audio-Head

https://audio-head.com/cobalt-is-the-new-blue-audioquest-releases-a-new-dragonfly-dac/



SoundNews (Romania)

https://soundnews.net/news/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-is-the-mightiest-one-so-far/



AV Tech Media Sweepstakes

Coinciding with the launch, AV Tech Media’s North American websites (Stereophile, AnalogPlanet, AudioStream, InnerFidelity, and Sound & Vision) launched their Cobalt Sweepstakes.



In total, at the time of writing, there have been more than 1200 entries into the Sweepstakes, with Stereophile.com’s 469 entries leading the way.



Tuesday, July 9

10 More Thoughts from Darko

John Darko went into deeper technical territory with this follow-up to Monday’s video: “10 more thoughts on the AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt.”



Headfonia

https://www.headfonia.com/audioquest-cobalt-review/


  • “The first thing you notice is how clean and clear the new Cobalt is delivering the sound. And not only that, it does it without any effort, making it sound wide, natural, and realistic.”
  • “Compared to the RED, the Cobalt sounds better, more precise, wider and more spacious, but also cleaner and more natural. The separation is better, the soundstage wider, the extension better in all directions and the presentation airier. Bass is a bit less thick, the mids more spacious, the treble more energetic and further extended.”


What HiFi (Great Britain)

https://www.whathifi.com/news/audioquest-looks-to-new-heights-with-dragonfly-cobalt-portable-dac



Stereo & Video (Russia)

https://stereo.ru/news/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-usb-dac



Tinhte (Vietnam)

https://tinhte.vn/threads/audioques...p-tien-loi-dac-es9038q2m-gia-299-usd.2983736/



hxos + Sound Vision (Greece)

http://www.hxoseikona.gr/nea/7289-audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt.html



AV Plus (Finland)

https://avplus.fi/audioquest-esitteli-taydennysta-muistitikun-kokoisiin-dragonfly-daceihinsa/



Fidelity (Germany)

https://www.fidelity-magazin.de/2019/07/08/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt/



Modern HiFi (Germany)

https://www.modernhifi.de/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt/



Sempre Audio (Austria)

https://www.sempre-audio.at/AudioQuest_DragonFly_Cobalt_-_Das_neue_Flaggschiff.id.6913.htm



HiFi (Netherlands)

https://www.hifi.nl/artikel/28037/A...nverter-is-jongste-lid-DragonFly-familie.html



Wednesday, July 10

HD Blog (Italy)

https://www.hdblog.it/2019/07/10/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-dac-ampli-cuffie/



On Mag (France)

https://www.on-mag.fr/index.php/top...e-ultra-audiophile-pour-pc-mac-android-et-ios



AF Digitale (Italy)

https://afdigitale.it/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-il-dac-portatile-da-299-euro/



Like HiFi (Germany)

https://www.likehifi.de/news/audioquest-macht-tragbaren-usb-dac-noch-besser-dragonfly-cobalt/



AV2D (Belgium)

https://av2d.com/nieuwste-audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-gelanceerd/



Thursday, July 11

TwitteringMachines (USA)

https://twitteringmachines.com/in-barn-audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt/



Friday, July 12

Gonzalo Varas (Chile)

https://www.gonzalovaras.cl/2019/07...ro-es-el-nuevo-dac-portatil-dragonfly-cobalt/



Xataka SmartHome (Spain)

https://www.xatakahome.com/reproductores/parece-memoria-usb-nuevo-dac-portatil-dragonfly-cobalt



Saturday, July 13

HiFi Trends (USA)

https://hifitrends.com/2019/07/13/icymi-audioquest-does-it-again-with-new-dragonfly-cobalt-usb-dac/



  • “I can’t wait to get my hands on one!”


Stereo (Vietnam)

https://stereo.vn/tin-tuc/di-dong/d...a-sieu-nho-gon-dragonfly-cobalt-dac-8682.html



Sunday, July 14

MacTechNews (Germany)

https://www.mactechnews.de/news/art...ocking-Audioquest-Cobalt-und-mehr-172776.html



Monday, July 15

HiFi Live (Spain)

https://hifilivemagazine.com/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt/



Tuesday, July 16

HiFi.nl (Netherlands)

5-star rating



https://www.hifi.nl/artikel/28062/Review-AudioQuest-DragonFly-Cobalt.html



  • “The AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt is a game changer that plays on a completely different level.”
  • “The DragonFly Cobalt is a must-have!”

Alpha-Audio.nl (Netherlands), Jaap Veenstra

5-star rating

Winner: Alpha-Audio Approved



Review: https://www.alpha-audio.nl/review/video-audioquest-cobalt-usb-dac/

Video:



  • “The DragonFly Cobalt takes a serious step beyond the Red…”
  • “Quieter… quieter… more musical.”
  • “…more air in the presentation, more detail, and a nicer flow.”


Wednesday, July 17

CEPro https://www.cepro.com/article/299_audioquest_dragonfly_cobalt_sound_smart_devices



Thursday, July 18, 2019

Hi-Files (Russia)

https://www.hi-files.com/jos-mocniji-dragonfly/

HiFi Show (China)

http://www.hifishow.cn/201907/181051291027.html



Audiophile (Norway)

http://www.audiophile.no/nb-no/item/2478-audioquest-dragonfly-cobolt



HiFi+ (UK), Alan Sircom: “Good, better, bloody hell!”

https://www.hifiplus.com/articles/audioquest-dragonfly-cobalt-dacheadphone-amp/



  • “If the Black opened the window, and the Red cleaned the window, then the Cobalt builds a bigger window and brings industrial window-cleaning products to the window-cleaning party.”

  • “If you have a demonstration of two or more DragonFlys (DragonFlies?), it takes longer to swap the DACs over than it does to hear the benefits of the Cobalt. Whenever there are three products in a line, there’s a temptation to class them, ‘good, better, best!’ but in this case, it’s, ‘good, better, bloody hell!’

  • “Get one. Now!”
 
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Aug 2, 2019 at 11:03 PM Post #110 of 155
Can anybody confirm whether or not the Cobalt fixes the volume issues of past DF’s?

For instance, some folks have sensitive IEMs that are too loud even with the base “level 1” volume of an iPhone or iPad.

Some DAC/amps without volume control buttons essentially expand the volume range, even though you’re using the volume buttons on the source phone or tablet... So the quietest volume of the iPhone or iPad becomes quieter, the loudest volume becomes louder- thus allowing everything from sensitive IEMs to full-sized headphones to be used. The Meridean Explorer 2 does a good job of this.

However, my experience with all prior Dragonflies has been that they make the lowest volume louder, and go from there... Meaning they were basically unusable with sensitive IEMs.

Has Cobalt fixed this?
 
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Aug 2, 2019 at 11:36 PM Post #111 of 155
Can anybody confirm whether or not the Cobalt fixes the volume issues of past DF’s?

For instance, some folks have sensitive IEMs that are too loud even with the base “level 1” volume of an iPhone or iPad.

Some DAC/amps without volume control buttons essentially expand the volume range, even though you’re using the volume buttons on the source phone or tablet... So the quietest volume of the iPhone or iPad becomes quieter, the loudest volume becomes louder- thus allowing everything from sensitive IEMs to full-sized headphones to be used. The Meridean Explorer 2 does a good job of this.

However, my experience with all prior Dragonflies has been that they make the lowest volume louder, and go from there... Meaning they were basically unusable with sensitive IEMs.

Has Cobalt fixed this?

A”fix” implies that something was wrong with previous Dragonfly’s, in the first place. But nothing was wrong with them. Very sensitive iem’s simply don’t need amplification, so a Dragonfly Red would be overkill.
 
Aug 3, 2019 at 5:37 AM Post #112 of 155
A”fix” implies that something was wrong with previous Dragonfly’s, in the first place. But nothing was wrong with them. Very sensitive iem’s simply don’t need amplification, so a Dragonfly Red would be overkill.
While I agree with you about amplification and sensitive IEMs, many people prefer a nicer DAC than whatever is in their phone or tablet.

But beyond preferences, it’s kind of a necessity.

It’s 2019. Fewer and fewer mobile devices have 3.5mm ports. The standard has completely disappeared from Apple products, and it’s being phased out among Androids as well. So it’s either use a Lightning/USB-to-3.5mm adapator (all of which feature worse DACs than whatever is in the device), or use a small standalone DAC/amp... Like the Dragonfly.

But again, only if it can get quiet enough.

Can anyone who’s listened to the Cobalt confirm if the volume issue has been addressed?
 
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Aug 3, 2019 at 6:39 AM Post #113 of 155
The volume control is better than on the previous models and ism adjustable and not as loud at low volumes. YMMV though and likely is different per device and software. I've used mine on UAPP on two android devices and use it on my Roon ROCK headphone station.
 
Aug 3, 2019 at 10:01 AM Post #114 of 155
Am the only one who feels AQ kind of missed an opportunity with the Cobalt to get away from the whole semi-obsolete USB-stick form factor? I don’t think Apple still makes a laptop that uses USB-A anymore, and quite a few PC laptops have followed suit. Seems like they had the chance to revamp the product in such a way that it would integrate more smoothly into modern computers, not to mention phones, pads, and tablets. I would have liked to see it with a standard female USB-C port on the end. And with an included cable that’s long enough to connect to the centered port on an iPad/tablet when it’s propped up in landscape mode. Ah, well. Actually, AQ should at least get on the longer cable thing. They should totally produce a Dragontail long enough for use with an iPad when it’s on the Smart Keyboard...

Also, can anybody who’s listened to the Cobalt confirm if it has at least fixed the volume problem with IEMs? With respect to DF lovers, I’ve always found them kind of pointless. Don’t get me wrong, every iteration I’ve heard sounds great, but they are tiny, and seemingly built only to power full-sized cans... at the expense of a low enough base volume for sensitive IEMs. I know there are people who just loooove to power hungry headphones with tiny amps (“Can I run my STAX L700 with something the size of a Chiclet? Let’s see!”), but I’ve always found that a little silly, if you consider actual usage. If I’m going to lug, say, a pair of 600Ohm DT880s to Starbucks, then I’ve already made a commitment in terms of bag space and weight. At that point, a Mojo or similar is fine... I’m already carrying a large bag, and it’s going to be heavy... Meaning an extra half a pound and a few more cubic inches isn’t a huge deal. But when I’m going light with a pair of IEMs, I like to keep my rig as compact as possible. I guess what I’m trying to articulate is that when I look at something the size of the Dragonfly, I have to think that portability was something the designers considered a lot. And IEMs are probably more popular than full-size headphones as a mobile option. So to make the thing too loud for most IEMs always struck me as... Odd. Anyway, here’s hoping the Cobalt has extended the low-volume listening range. If it has, I’d love to see how it stacks up against the Apogee Groove 30th...

If they change it to USB-C, how are the iPhone/iPad users going to use this product?
 
Aug 3, 2019 at 3:09 PM Post #117 of 155
The volume control is better than on the previous models and ism adjustable and not as loud at low volumes. YMMV though and likely is different per device and software. I've used mine on UAPP on two android devices and use it on my Roon ROCK headphone station.
This sounds very promising! Just to clarify, with your android devices, is the lowest volume with the Cobalt attached lower than the base level 1 volume of the devices? Do either of them have a 3.5mm jack, or do you have an active adaptor, so you can compare volume directly out of the phone to the Cobalt on the lower levels? Cheers!

a dongle... same as they use now... just a different one... lol also Apple is moving to Type C next year.
Exactly.

And around half of Apple has already moved... iPad Pro and all the current laptops are USB-C. Only the iPhone and lower trier iPads remain Lightning...
 
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Aug 3, 2019 at 3:18 PM Post #119 of 155
If you have a usbc connector on the device I could see it breaking off quite easily and would be even less suited to portable use. At least with a dongle it's flexible and only that breaks not the unit itself. Realistically A usb c connector is not practical for this type of device.
 
Aug 3, 2019 at 3:25 PM Post #120 of 155
If you have a usbc connector on the device I could see it breaking off quite easily and would be even less suited to portable use. At least with a dongle it's flexible and only that breaks not the unit itself. Realistically A usb c connector is not practical for this type of device.
I agree that keeping the form-factor of a dongle while switching to USB-C would be a bad move... A decent number of people have older computers without USB-C, so they’d just create the same problem for them that the people with USB-C computers have. And like you say, a male USB-C isn’t as robust as male USB-A.

But I was suggesting doing away with the dongle form-factor entirely.

Just make it a tiny, sleek device with a single USB-C female input. AQ could still produce form-fitting tails if they wanted to keep the design DNA intact.

In fact, the new tails could be both case and cable. The entire DF would go inside the elongated open end, which features cutouts for the lights, until it clicks into place with the internal USB-C male firmly in the DF’s female port. And then the whole thing tapers into a cable. Very trick. Would be super durable as well. I actually drew up some sketches. Maybe I’ll post them some time.

Don’t get me wrong, the current Cobalt design is perfectly functional. It’s not like it’s exceedingly difficult to use with an iPhone, USB-C computer or whatever. I just think it would have been a nice time to really shake things up with the series, design-wise. Make it a little more cutting edge, a little more future-proofed.
 
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