[mrmoto050]

This may be a already answered question but does anyone know what DAC chip they are using for Mobius? I don't remember if they stated or not or it may be proprietary. Anyway I love Audeze signature. I have LCD2 and Lcd- XC.

 

[MICHAELSD]

Anyway, the pre-sale pricing is over on Audeze.com so they should be on track to start shipping soon.

 

[Saljon]

@Audeze Dumb question but I see that in the box it'll have a USB A to C as well as a USB C to C. Will both cables offer the same exactly quality or will USB C to C offer some advantages?
My comp. has both but the USB C port is located on the back of the comp. while I have a USB A slot open on my monitor so USB A would be a bit more convenient but if C to C offers an advantage I guess thats the route to take.

There shouldn't be any difference, not to mention, that the connection itself (A or C) doesn't matter if both are (for example) 3.1.
The question should be if usb 2.0 can achieve the same quality as 3.0 and 3.1 but I don't see why not since uncompressed 8 channel audio has around 2.3MB/s which isn't hard to achieve on anything USB.


Mrmoto050
Most likely another cheapo CS42L42 chip. Don't expect too much.

 

[acia]

There shouldn't be any difference, not to mention, that the connection itself (A or C) doesn't matter if both are (for example) 3.1.
The question should be if usb 2.0 can achieve the same quality as 3.0 and 3.1 but I don't see why not since uncompressed 8 channel audio has around 2.3MB/s which isn't hard to achieve on anything USB.


Mrmoto050
Most likely another cheapo CS42L42 chip. Don't expect too much.

No way. Noise level so high.

 

[knowhatimean]

Maybe just actually compare it with the EL-8 for a couple hours and give some initial thoughts here before writing a review? How long do you listen to something before writing a full review? Several days of heavy use seems like the minimum to me.

All of us scheduled for June may get them at a similar time though..... How many hundred or thousand do you think they can ship out in a day

They'll undoubtedly update the project and confirm when they are shipping as well as send out an email that includes tracking information. It really isn't something we need to worry about. They're not amateurs. They mentioned on the Indiegogo page that they use FedEx in the USA btw..... It also wouldn't make any sense for them not to require a signature..... They've been doing this for a while and have great customer service.

Well, I normally agree with just about all you've said in this thread,but at this point I'm not sure if everything hasn't passed over to Audeze.

I purchased the LCD2C from Audeze a few month's ago & they came to me USPS Priority Service . As such, there was no sign in requirement (Which is way more convenient for myself). I didn't actually read the Indiegogo page so you may be completely correct & I may be "Full of Beans" (Though I hope not ; & I cleaned up that saying as they're a bit sensitive about using certain words on Hf )

 

[Saljon]

No way. Noise level so high.

Pardon me?
USB has several handshakes throughout the transfering process. It's also mirrored so if one bit fails the other signal will correct for that.

Regarding power over USB: There are enough solutions that work quite well, not to mention you can always up the thickness of the cable. I'm not quite sure what you want to tell me here?

 

[evernessince]

Pardon me?
USB has several handshakes throughout the transfering process. It's also mirrored so if one bit fails the other signal will correct for that.

Regarding power over USB: There are enough solutions that work quite well, not to mention you can always up the thickness of the cable. I'm not quite sure what you want to tell me here?

I do not think USB helps much with noise. I have a JDS labs element and an ATH A2000Z (extremely sensitive to noise) and I still get noise if I put the DAC/Cable too close to my computer.

 

[nppafonso]

From time to time it is beneficial to check the front page of this site, lol...

Yeap... i feel you bro, better do that from now on

 

[mrmoto050]

There shouldn't be any difference, not to mention, that the connection itself (A or C) doesn't matter if both are (for example) 3.1.
The question should be if usb 2.0 can achieve the same quality as 3.0 and 3.1 but I don't see why not since uncompressed 8 channel audio has around 2.3MB/s which isn't hard to achieve on anything USB.

Mrmoto050
likely another cheapo CS42L42 chip. Don't expect too much.

Actually Audeze is a great company and doesn't do cheap. I'll wait for a qualified answer.

 

[RamSpencer]

Agreed.... 1's and 0's......the DAC comes after, inside the Mobius. It's not that much data traveling. Don't think you'll hear any difference.

 

[Saljon]

I do not think USB helps much with noise. I have a JDS labs element and an ATH A2000Z (extremely sensitive to noise) and I still get noise if I put the DAC/Cable too close to my computer.

It usually does but if both lines are distorted you simply need shielding. I would recommend a shielded USB cable, or ferrite chokes which should take care of the problem.

Actually Audeze is a great company and doesn't do cheap. I'll wait for a qualified answer.

I'm sorry?! Am I in the twilight zone?
How would someone like you who confirms he has no clue of the matter decide I am unqualified to answer just because you don't like what you hear?!

Ungrateful and ungracious. Wonderful...

The CS42L42 is per definition cheap. A single chip costs around 3-4 €. Massive amounts even less and it is the whole brain of the cipher cables since the chip itself allows for the signal manipulation you need to have for a multiband EQ or in this case the whole dsp "correction".
It's also able to support a potent mic channel.

Still it is by no means a sabre chip and those are about 3-4 times the price depending on order size (except free samples ofc.).
So yeah.... Audeze doesn't do cheap my buttocks. Every company is out for maximising profit and the Cirrus Logic chip just so happens to have every feature they need.

 

[mashuto]

It will be interesting to see exactly how fast the head tracking is, as I have a 144 Hz monitor and any lag in the tracking should be noticeable.

Pshh, 144hz, so slow, I just upgraded to a 165hz. Honestly cant tell a difference, but I will never again get a primary gaming monitor thats slower than 144hz, it makes such a huge difference for gaming. And even just moving the mouse on the desktop is super smooth, as you said. The PCMR is coming out in me here, but its one of those things that is so noticeable that anyone who claims the eye cant even see 60hz would be lying if they said they couldnt see a difference.

Anyways though, I am not really sure what the headtracking on the mobius has to do with the refresh rate of your monitor. I dont think either will have an effect on the other. Your framerate in the game controls your viewport, your head movements will control the angle of your head within the virtual surround audio space. Lag could be an issue, but again, they are still not connected.

That said, the specifications for the mobius (taken directly from the mobius webpage) state that the head tracking tracks 1000 times per second (1000hz), so there should be significantly less lag in the tracking than any input lag you might see from your monitor.

 

[mrmoto050]

It usually does but if both lines are distorted you simply need shielding. I would recommend a shielded USB cable, or ferrite chokes which should take care of the problem.



I'm sorry?! Am I in the twilight zone?
How would someone like you who confirms he has no clue of the matter decide I am unqualified to answer just because you don't like what you hear?!

Ungrateful and ungracious. Wonderful...

The CS42L42 is per definition cheap. A single chip costs around 3-4 €. Massive amounts even less and it is the whole brain of the cipher cables since the chip itself allows for the signal manipulation you need to have for a multiband EQ or in this case the whole dsp "correction".
It's also able to support a potent mic channel.

Still it is by no means a sabre chip and those are about 3-4 times the price depending on order size (except free samples ofc.).
So yeah.... Audeze doesn't do cheap my buttocks. Every company is out for maximising profit and the Cirrus Logic chip just so happens to have every feature they need.

@Saljon; I did not say I had no clue on the matter. How about maybe the AK4367A which btw is used by Beyerdynamics in the Avento Headset. But I can tell by your youthful comments you are not the one to confirm anything. so I will ignore going further. Cheers.

 

[ipodlover77]

Come on Audeze. Send out those tracking numbers!!! Hopefully I'm in the first wave. I was the $250 tier.

 

[KMann]

The CS42L42 is per definition cheap. A single chip costs around 3-4 €. Massive amounts even less and it is the whole brain of the cipher cables since the chip itself allows for the signal manipulation you need to have for a multiband EQ or in this case the whole dsp "correction".
It's also able to support a potent mic channel.

I do not know where you get your information from, but Cipher uses a custom SOC, and adding LAM does not come cheap either. No Cirrus Logic here...