[muad]

wow, that's expensive. Is that a premium because it's discontinued?

 

[madwolfa]

  wow, that's expensive. Is that a premium because it's discontinued?

 
Because Canada. But more because of the cable, which is few hundreds alone??

 

[Ekul61]

If you want a pre fazor. Which model to buy. Isnt there about 3 revisions

 

[Head Injury]

If you want a pre fazor. Which model to buy. Isnt there about 3 revisions

I'd suggest one of the late pre-Fazor models, ones with the new driver material and the metal cable connectors. They don't have any specific name that I know of. That way you'll get all of the major changes but the Fazor itself.
 
Something close to this serial number would be best. Look at that frequency response curve! I think I'm in love.

 

[madwolfa]

  Something close to this serial number would be best. Look at that frequency response curve! I think I'm in love.

 
Well, mine with Fazor looks almost the same (except <30Hz rolloff, which doesn't matter anyway). What gives?

 

[Head Injury]

   
Well, mine with Fazor looks almost the same (except <30Hz rolloff, which doesn't matter anyway). What gives?

Nothing gives. The one I linked just has the prettiest looking frequency response.
 
Are you comparing to the measurements you got from Audeze? You really need to compare between measurements with the same setup, Audeze uses too much smoothing for a fair one. In this case Tyll's Fazor measurement shows more significant changes, especially above 3 kHz (upper midrange and treble). Note the peak at 9-10 kHz.

 

[madwolfa]

  Nothing gives. The one I linked just has the prettiest looking frequency response.
 
Are you comparing to the measurements you got from Audeze? You really need to compare between measurements with the same setup, Audeze uses too much smoothing for a fair one. In this case Tyll's Fazor measurement shows more significant changes, especially above 3 kHz (upper midrange and treble). Note the peak at 9-10 kHz.

 
Well, I have the same peak there.... Anyway, just attached my graph.
 
I don't see why anyone would hunt for pre-Fazor specifically without actually listening to one first and purely based on someone's speculation on the Internet.
 

 

[Loquah]

I had a chance to here LCD 2.1, 2.2 (Dec 2013) and 2.2F on the weekend and I would actually choose the 2.2F for the best sound out of the bunch, possibly followed by the 2.1 and then 2.2. They're all brilliant and I'd be completely happy with any of the 3 (the 2.2 is mine), but the Fazor improvement is excellent and the smoothness of the 2.1 is also quite magical. Of course the 2.2 sits nicely in between so as I said, I'm still happy.

 

[Argo Duck]

^ I nearly posted about the smoothness of the 2.1, but I've never heard the 2.2 or 2.2F. Now having the 3F, I'm inclined to think it's the fulfilment of what the 2.1 was trying to be.

Could easily be wrong though, given my experience of the different versions is sadly lacking!

 

[sling5s]

2X
 
I've heard r.1 and r.2 and fazor.  I would say the fazor is overall the best of the bunch but I admit the r.1 has the most magical midrange. 

  I had a chance to here LCD 2.1, 2.2 (Dec 2013) and 2.2F on the weekend and I would actually choose the 2.2F for the best sound out of the bunch, possibly followed by the 2.1 and then 2.2. They're all brilliant and I'd be completely happy with any of the 3 (the 2.2 is mine), but the Fazor improvement is excellent and the smoothness of the 2.1 is also quite magical. Of course the 2.2 sits nicely in between so as I said, I'm still happy.

 

[primacord]

I'm still relatively new so I apologize if this is a silly question but I recently purchased an LCD-2 from headphone.com and have been reading about a 2nd revision. Is there any way to tell if mine is the original or revised edition? Headphone.com didn't explicitly state either way.

I purchased them only about 1-1.5 months ago. Any help is appreciated!

 

[jodgey4]

They should be the 2.2 with Fazor, do you feel/see ridges behind the mesh inside the cups where your ears are? That's the best way to confirm if you have the Fazor.

 

[Lohb]

  I had a chance to here LCD 2.1, 2.2 (Dec 2013) and 2.2F on the weekend and I would actually choose the 2.2F for the best sound out of the bunch, possibly followed by the 2.1 and then 2.2. They're all brilliant and I'd be completely happy with any of the 3 (the 2.2 is mine), but the Fazor improvement is excellent and the smoothness of the 2.1 is also quite magical. Of course the 2.2 sits nicely in between so as I said, I'm still happy.

Thanks for that perspective of where the 2.1 sits and its relative smoothness.

I have little chance of auditioning all 3 side-by-side.

 

[primacord]

They should be the 2.2 with Fazor, do you feel/see ridges behind the mesh inside the cups where your ears are? That's the best way to confirm if you have the Fazor.

I most definitely do feel the ridges. Thanks for the help! I had a feeling they'd be the most up to date but after finding out all the different versions I wanted to know exactly which one I was hearing.

 

[bassboysam]

I have a 2.1 and I have no desire to check out the later revisions. The 2.1 is probably the least neutral of the bunch, with a very thick sound. It is very unique and nothing sounds like a 2.1. I like to have headphones that sound as different as possible from each other and so the 2.1 is a great headpone for my collection.