[Vidal]

The seller confirmed that these are the dual driver version balanced armature and DD, bit of a bargain considering the performance

 

[-sandro-]

The seller confirmed that these are the dual driver version balanced armature and DD, bit of a bargain considering the performance

so it's the same as "four speakers" right?

 

[Vidal]

It's more specific, confirms it's a hybrid the other listing didn't.

 

[maxxevv]

I did an impulse buy of what was the equivalent of the Tingo IE800 which you reviewed ( was intrigued that you rated them so highly), during the recent Aliexpress sale, as it wasn't more than any of the other earphones I own so far. Was surprised when I received the package today... Was thinking it would be just cheap plastic packs, they went the full suite!

The first 5 minute listen OOTB was pretty disappointing. The overall signature sounded a little drab, though there were hints of the treble, detail and soundstage. Put the thing on a 6 hour burn cycle of pink noise, they completely transformed after that !

Looking at your ratings now, yes, I am at more than 85% in agreement with your review. They are really very, very good !
The only thing that I would say they can be rated slightly higher would be the mids. They sound a little thin there but still fairly alright to me. Not yet borderline (if that's what you mean by the '5' rating).

They are probably 'pariah' to a lot of people but if you discard that stigma and look at them as any other IEM out there, they are really brilliant ! Loads of detail, pretty good soundstage, separation, sufficient bass, yet great clarity!

 

[Vidal]

The values for bass, mids, treble are relative strength rather than a score - quantitative rather than quality

They're still a big favourite of mine, but probably best not discussed any further due to their 'illicit' nature

 

[-sandro-]

Can you tell if these are original? they show both braided and grey cable, not the black one (single driver).

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/327..._id=cda15d47ee744895af1424a3007e46ef#autostay

 

[Vidal]

That looks like the mk1 version, as long as the cable is identical to the one shown in the picture they should be original. Mine is identical but in the green finish rather than black.

 

[-sandro-]

That looks like the mk1 version, as long as the cable is identical to the one shown in the picture they should be original. Mine is identical but in the green finish rather than black.

they show two kind of cables, someone says the grey rubberized cable is like the the mk1...

 

[vector84]

Can you tell if these are original? they show both braided and grey cable, not the black one (single driver).

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32729657739.html?trace=storeDetail2msiteDetail&dp=7ee5a9ccec852d26fa3d2a9267953e5e&af=240682&cv=47843&afref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Fthreads%2Fknowledge-zenith-kz-impressions-thread.698148%2Fpage-1416&mall_affr=pr3&aff_platform=aaf&cpt=1505246726561&sk=VnYZvQVf&aff_trace_key=9e9bdb21d5634d11ad39510df7f035c5-1505246726561-03065-VnYZvQVf&terminal_id=cda15d47ee744895af1424a3007e46ef#autostay

Probably just bad lighting, but I certainly can't tell what color that should be

 

[Vidal]

I only look at the photos for the black version as that's the one available. The last few photos (green) show the hybrid mk2, the dynamic only mk2 has a black cable I believe.

Not tested any of the mk2 versions

 

[-sandro-]

I'm even more confused now lol, two different mk2? let's see what the seller says...

@vector84 that looks blue!

 

[Vidal]

Not complicated -

Braided silver = mk1 hybrid (tested)

Grey PU = mk2 hybrid (not tested)

Black PU = mk2 dynamic only (avoid)

The listing has pictures of a black mk1 and a green mk2 - both are hybrid versions. My review only relates to the mk1 hybrid though.

 

[-sandro-]

Thanks!
I think I will get the UF instead of the ZS5 as my first hybrid iem. And also got the Einsear T2
I'm wondering if the dual DD + dual BA is just marketing thing or it actually makes a difference compared to 1 DD + 1 BA. I read many mixed reviews for the zs5 but pretty much the same thing for the UF...
Probably the tuning wins over technicality.

 

[Vidal]

If you're in the UK I'd have said get the E-MI C880 as you're first hybrid > I've rarely listened to much else since I got them, ZS5 included.

 

[-sandro-]

If you're in the UK I'd have said get the E-MI C880 as you're first hybrid > I've rarely listened to much else since I got ZS5 included.

Italy here, aren't those amazon uk seller shipping from China anyway?