Android phones and USB DACs
Jul 19, 2014 at 7:27 PM Post #5,116 of 9,526
  @ Danba, is there any reason why the LG G3 did not make it to your menu
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The reasons are as follows:
 
1. I don't own a LG G3.
I have two Android smartphones Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note3. I switched from iPhones.
 
2. I favor Samsung smartphones because the Galaxy S3 is the first Android smartphone which includes a native USB audio feature.
 
3. I also favor Samsung flagship smartphones because Samsung is the biggest Android smartphone maker: biggest smartphone maker, biggest number of smartphone owners, biggest potential number of votes for the Goggle issue "24614: Add support for USB Audio".
I don't track custom USB audio implementation because most people use stock devices.
I don't have time to track every Android device.
 
4. I also favor the Android L-powered Google Nexus 5 / 7 because their native USB audio would become the reference USB audio implementation in the USB DAC industry: USB audio will be included in every USB host-featured Android device, the dominant computing device.
 
 
BTW, I did inform people about your LG G3-based setup.
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/173-2-channel-audio/1393599-enable-usb-audio-any-android-4-0-smartphone-tablet-8.html#post25627346
http://www.tellementnomade.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=242583&sid=9636eaec0e9731232f3cab02ad6ed314#p242583
 
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:59 AM Post #5,118 of 9,526
It is funny because I was actually going to post this option fora phone being used with a DAC as well. I had just tried this last week and it worked jusst fine.
 
Jul 20, 2014 at 9:01 PM Post #5,119 of 9,526
   
Nope, according to the USB Audio Player PRO site.
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5085
 
"NOT working Android devices
 
 
Galaxy S2
 
No USB host mode
"

 
Thanks man.
 
Jul 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM Post #5,121 of 9,526
Is there a way for UAPP to access SAMBA shares via Wi-Fi networks? If so, just wondering if DSD were supported that way.

 
Yes, with a device called a Ravpower Filehub. See below (and search the thread for more info). I have one and find it incredibly useful, with one major caveat: you can only select one file at a time, so no playlists or folder playing yet, which means it ends up being more useful at the moment for movies than music (in my opinion, anyway). If you were really dedicated, you could attached multiple tracks together into one big track and play them back here, I suppose, but I've never actually done it-- I'm just waiting for a fix for UAPP and/or Ravpower that allows for queueing up multiple files and am content to piddle around until then. 
 
If there's a better solution available, I'm not aware of it, but I'd love to be! :)
 
EDIT: Quote didn't work for some reason, so here are two links: 
 
Link 1
Link 2
 
Jul 21, 2014 at 8:30 PM Post #5,123 of 9,526
Is there a way for UAPP to access SAMBA shares via Wi-Fi networks? 

 
Samba network file sharing will be available in an upcoming release.
 
 
If so, just wondering if DSD were supported that way.
 


It is aimed for: large storage capacity, large (DSD, ...) files.
 
 
Non-stop UAPP folder playback: Music files stored on a 2TB portable hard drive
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4860#post_10621362
 
Jul 21, 2014 at 9:18 PM Post #5,124 of 9,526
  Onkyo HF Player is coming by the end of July, too bad they're resampling everything like DSD to 48/16 until they've figured out how to do bit-perfect playback. LOL
 
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140719_658753.html

 
It won't perform resampling using the native USB audio of Android L.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5010#post_10669296
 
Anyway, the Onkyo HF Player seems interesting (DLNA, DSD -> PCM, DSD -> DoP, ...).
 

 

 

 
Jul 22, 2014 at 3:10 AM Post #5,125 of 9,526

android@googlecode.com via codesite.bounces.google.com 
4:08 AM (6 hours ago)
to me 
Updates:
        Status: Assigned
        Owner: gkas...@android.com
Comment #1345 on issue 24614 by gkas...@android.com: Add support for USB Audio
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
Sorry for any confusion, but in our exuberance about USB audio, we flipped the status to Released a bit early.  It is true that L developer preview includes some USB audio support, but it is not quite complete in L developer preview. Please bear in mind that there are myriads of use cases and devices out there. And while we may not support all of this initially, we will do our best to support as many as we can at L launch, and work to bring this support to the entire ecosystem as fast as we can. We're continuing to work on it, so I'm changing status to Assigned. Thanks in advance for your patience!
 
 
 
Thats a Big BUMP
 
Jul 22, 2014 at 3:57 AM Post #5,126 of 9,526
Is there a way for UAPP to access SAMBA shares via Wi-Fi networks? If so, just wondering if DSD were supported that way.


I'm sure it'd work from my NAS via file explorer, it'll be single track selection only like the other solutions posted here.
 
Jul 22, 2014 at 4:46 PM Post #5,127 of 9,526
I posted my question below earlier on the DX50 thread, but just noticed this thread & will post my Q here since my aim is to use the N7's USB audio port along with the DX50 as the DAC/Amp:
 
Anyone tried using the latest Nexus 7 USB Rom with the DX50?
 
http://mehrvarz.github.io/nexus-7-usbrom/
Supported USB audio devices
These are just some of the supported USB DAC's: CM106-F, FiiO E07 + E10 + E17, Hifimediy Sabre, VIA USB Audio Dongle, Behringer UFO202 + UCA202 + UCA222, Syba SD-CM-UAUD, Miditech Audioface2 (PCM 2902), FujitsuSiemens PortReplicator (CM 108), Aune T1 (TE7022), Turtle Beach Micro II, BERESFORD Caiman, Teralink x2, Headroom Total Bithead, Fostex PC-100USB.
Basically all standard USB audio devices should work.
Problems have been reported only with TAS1020B based DAC's.

 
The DX50 is not listed, but I'm trying to find a way to use it as a DAC since Ibasso is still awaiting for certification of its drivers from MSFT.
 
Jul 22, 2014 at 11:54 PM Post #5,128 of 9,526
PS: Sound of the AK100 II is fantastic. :beyersmile:


Hey Casper.

How does the S5 + E18 combo sound compared to the AK100 II? I'm thinking of getting an E18 for my S5, coincidentally, and would like to know how the DAC and amp of the E18 compares to those of a dedicated DAP like the AK100 II.

Cheers
 
Jul 23, 2014 at 6:03 AM Post #5,129 of 9,526
  I posted my question below earlier on the DX50 thread, but just noticed this thread & will post my Q here since my aim is to use the N7's USB audio port along with the DX50 as the DAC/Amp:
 
Anyone tried using the latest Nexus 7 USB Rom with the DX50?
 
http://mehrvarz.github.io/nexus-7-usbrom/
Supported USB audio devices
These are just some of the supported USB DAC's: CM106-F, FiiO E07 + E10 + E17, Hifimediy Sabre, VIA USB Audio Dongle, Behringer UFO202 + UCA202 + UCA222, Syba SD-CM-UAUD, Miditech Audioface2 (PCM 2902), FujitsuSiemens PortReplicator (CM 108), Aune T1 (TE7022), Turtle Beach Micro II, BERESFORD Caiman, Teralink x2, Headroom Total Bithead, Fostex PC-100USB.
Basically all standard USB audio devices should work.
Problems have been reported only with TAS1020B based DAC's.

 
The DX50 is not listed, but I'm trying to find a way to use it as a DAC since Ibasso is still awaiting for certification of its drivers from MSFT.

 
Apparently, the iBasso DX50 can't work with a Mac: it is not a standard USB DAC.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/679473/the-ibasso-dx50-thread-latest-firmware-1-5-0/14205#post_10712852
 
As far as I know, existing Android USB audio implementations are only compatible with standard USB DAC, i.e. compatible with USB Audio Class (1 or 2) standard.
 
 
Anyway, you could try to connect your DX50 with a Nexus 7 using:
 
. USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP):
UAPP includes its own USB audio soft driver.
There is a free trial version available on Google Play store
 
. the native USB audio of Android L:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5040#post_10683033
 
Jul 23, 2014 at 9:33 AM Post #5,130 of 9,526
Thanks for the app tip. I'll check it out
 
Anyway, you could try to connect your DX50 with a Nexus 7 using:
 
. USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP):
UAPP includes its own USB audio soft driver.
There is a free trial version available on Google Play store
 

 
EDIT: I checked it out & the DX50 is not listed as a supported device, furthermore it seems that you can only use the UAPP native player.  My goal was to stream music from other apps using the USB audio output. I didn't want to tinker with my Rom just yet, but I may give the beta Android L a try when I have time.  
 
Thanks again
 

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