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post #4411 of 5396

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:

stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/HCzW1a

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:

stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/2fPYtk

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:

stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/4Nq4Y8

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:

stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:

stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly non-interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note2 / S4 / Note3 using USB Audio Recorder PRO /  USB Audio Player PRO:

http://goo.gl/kHJmfE

 

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

FAQ:

http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

 

The basics:

http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

post #4412 of 5396

@cattlethief

 

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We all know know by now that UAPP unleashes DAC support and hires playback over USB on many Android devices with support for many DACs, incl Cambridge DACMagic XS, Audioquest Firefly, iFI iDSD Nano and many more. But I cant call it a real music playing solution for me if it can only play 1 song at a time or stream songs and full albums from a network through DLNA. If that ever happens I'll be glad to pay the 6.99 Euro that I have to pay now for the full version.

 

As it stands now UAPP is nice for demoing and nothing else. 

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

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 What do you mean it can only play one song at a time?how many songs do want playing at the same time,it carries playlist support and can shuffle songs or albums, it has turned my cheap android phone into a wonderful sounding music player with 64gig of flac some of which are hires ,not bad for£6.00 and for the record it can play some of the tracks that my mac using audirvana cannot.

 

dikkiedirk is referring to the lack of network support within UAPP.

 

It would be lovely for those of us who have phones with limited on board storage. Or who would simply like to carry TB's of lossless music about (streamed via wi-fi from a external hard drive using a RavPower FileHub or similar). Only solution (as yet untested) that I can see to this issue with UAPP (at present) would be to rip music (or merge existing tracks) to a single album length file...

 

Fine for those of us that haven't yet starting ripping a vast library of CD's to lossless (uh, as in myself), were there the time allowed to do so.

 

Do I recall somebody saying that Neutron (or another player) supports streaming albums/playlists over a network/Wi-Fi ? Don't much matter to me if it doesn't support hi-res, plain old 44.1/16 will do the job.

post #4413 of 5396
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Originally Posted by swab View Post
 

 

 

dikkiedirk is referring to the lack of network support within UAPP.

 

It would be lovely for those of us who have phones with limited on board storage. Or who would simply like to carry TB's of lossless music about (streamed via wi-fi from a external hard drive using a RavPower FileHub or similar). Only solution (as yet untested) that I can see to this issue with UAPP (at present) would be to rip music (or merge existing tracks) to a single album length file...

 

Fine for those of us that haven't yet starting ripping a vast library of CD's to lossless (uh, as in myself), were there the time allowed to do so.

 

Do I recall somebody saying that Neutron (or another player) supports streaming albums/playlists over a network/Wi-Fi ? Don't much matter to me if it doesn't support hi-res, plain old 44.1/16 will do the job.

 

I stream using gizmo/jriver and it sounds great.  I have yet to configure it so that I can use it outside of the house, but it doesn't sound too hard to do.

post #4414 of 5396

I would like to take a doubt, as the battery of smartphones behave with DACs connected? There are negative changes in autonomy or they work as if they were playing music from the device itself?

post #4415 of 5396
Running my E18 all day has no significant effect on my GN3 battery. It drains at it's normal speed regardless.
post #4416 of 5396
I think if the DAC has its own power source it'll drain battery normally but if the DAC is USB powered it'll probably have to drain the phones battery, that's just my assumption
post #4417 of 5396
Are there any OTG USB DAC's that don't have their own power supply? My phone wouldn't last an hour if it had to power my DAC and amp as well.
post #4418 of 5396
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Are there any OTG USB DAC's that don't have their own power supply? My phone wouldn't last an hour if it had to power my DAC and amp as well.

I think I've seen someone hook up a dragonfly, alo audio Island and meridian explorer but it drained battery life pretty fast if i remember correctly. 

 

@Danba: Is there a list of Dac/amps that work with the nexus 5 + UAPP?  

post #4419 of 5396

The Dragonfly drains the battery of my Note 3 but not excessively, about on par with running Google navigation. 30-40% faster maybe?

post #4420 of 5396
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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post
 

I think I've seen someone hook up a dragonfly, alo audio Island and meridian explorer but it drained battery life pretty fast if i remember correctly. 

 

 

Bitzie USB DAC/USB Headphone Amp: a USB bus-powered USB DAC
http://www.gspaudio.co.uk/bitzie-usb-dac-external-soundcard.htm
"USB DAC for Samsung Galaxy S3 Android Jellybean...
7.5hrs continuous playing!"

 

 

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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post

 

@Danba: Is there a list of Dac/amps that work with the nexus 5 + UAPP?  

 

 

The Nexus 5 using USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) should work with any USB DAC:

 

. listed on the UAPP/UARP web site (reliability: 100%)

http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

 

. reportedly working with an Android device elsewhere or here (reliability: 99.99999%)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4410#post_10400172

If there is any issue, eXtream should easily fix it.

 

 

The above reasoning is based on:

 

. The USB host feature of the Nexus 5 can provide all USB services possible (isochronous transfer ...) able to communicate with a USB DAC, because the Nexus 5 is reportedly working with a FiiO E17 USB DAC/amp.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47195206&postcount=9

 

. Once the USB audio soft-driver of UAPP running on an Android device is able to drive a USB DAC, the same USB audio soft-driver interfacing a USB host driver able to communicate with a USB DAC and running on any other Android device is able to drive that USB DAC

 

 

 

. Up to now, as far as I know, any USB DAC reportedly working with an Android device (i.e. driven by the native USB audio feature of an Android device) can be driven by the USB audio soft-driver of UAPP/UARP

 

. As the Nexus 5 can interwork with the Fiio E17 with requires 500 mA, the maximum power required by a USB DAC, the Nexus 5 using UAPP can work with any compatible USB DAC without the need of inserting a self-powered USB hub.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3300#post_9905127


Edited by DanBa - 3/28/14 at 12:31pm
post #4421 of 5396
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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post
 

I think I've seen someone hook up a dragonfly, alo audio Island and meridian explorer but it drained battery life pretty fast if i remember correctly. 

 

@Danba: Is there a list of Dac/amps that work with the nexus 5 + UAPP?  


I experimented with a Xperia to a Dragonfly and played music for 8 hours until I hit 25% battery. That is fine for me. What eats the power is the screen in this rig so I let it time out.

post #4422 of 5396

Hi,

 

Has anyone got USB audio to work on a Samsung Galaxy S3/S4 Mini? I've seen the Mini on a list of non compatible devices. However, I've also seen that some people have been able to enable OTG USB for nonaudio devicies. I've been searching for a long time but I was wondering if it is possible to get this to work on the Mini. It's time to upgrade my phone but I want something as small as possible. Please let me know if you've had any success. Thanks!

post #4423 of 5396
Using an iBasso D-Zero with my Note 3 on 4.3. Plug and play & sounds great.
post #4424 of 5396
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Originally Posted by edwardsean View Post
 

Hi,

 

Has anyone got USB audio to work on a Samsung Galaxy S3/S4 Mini? I've seen the Mini on a list of non compatible devices. However, I've also seen that some people have been able to enable OTG USB for nonaudio devicies. I've been searching for a long time but I was wondering if it is possible to get this to work on the Mini. It's time to upgrade my phone but I want something as small as possible. Please let me know if you've had any success. Thanks!

 

 

What about a Moto X?  It doesn't have the specs of the galaxy, but it doesn't have the bloatware either.  It runs very fast due to a near pure google experience with only a few motorola apps on it all of which are great.  Battery life is great and it's fast despite not having the top of the line hardware specs.  Just change your system to android runtime and it gets even faster than running with dalvik cache. But not all apps will work with ART.  I'm enjoying my moto x and RSA predator setup with jvc ha-fx850 IEM.  

post #4425 of 5396
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Originally Posted by swab View Post

 

Thanks to Theogenes for taking the time to answer our questions as regards the FileHub.

 

I'm a bit mystified if you hoekeat are referring to using the FileHub as a router for an existing Wi-Fi broadband network, or as I had originally queried Theogenes ; will an Android phone allow itself to access it's own mobile internet (network providers' data connection) while connected by Wi-Fi to the FileHub (FileHub is NOT connected to a wider Wi-Fi network or hotspot).

 

Or or are you positing the following (nothing more than the phone plus RavPower) :

 

- enable wi-fi hotspot on phone

- connect RavPower to phones wi-fi hotspot, and set up RavPower as a router for the phones wi-fi hotspot

- connect phone to RavPower (to stream media from a connected hard drive)

- phone can also connect to it's own mobile data connection via the RavPower wi-fi

 

So the phone can broadcast it's data connection OUT via Wi-Fi and connect to the web by virtue of the fact it is connecting to the Ravpowers network (powered by the phones own network data) ?

 

If that is the case, how bad.

 

As for the one file at a time playback issue in USBAPP using the RavPower - I can't verify this at the minute but didn't iTunes used to allow a whole album be ripped as one continuous track ? Couldn't this be used a means to circumvent the one track at a time limitation...

 

I apologize, I wasn't particularly clear. Based on my understanding: your phone or mobile device connects to the FileHub via Wifi, so it (your device) cannot access another type of data network (at least, no devices that I'm aware of can do this). To bypass the lack of connectivity to the internet, the FileHub can connect to a separate Wifi network that is available and route your internet requests to that Wifi network. So you would need to have a Wifi network handy to hop onto (like at home/work/etc). The utility of the internet passthrough feature seems necessarily limited when you're out and about, as there might or might not be a Wifi network accessible where you are at any given time. 

 

If it helps, this is how Ravpower describes it on the Amazon product page: "Portable WLAN Hot Spot - Bypass your internet access to your existing Wi-Fi router,so you may access any data in the SD or HDD while surfing the internet simultaneously. (Allow 5 maximum connections at the same time for data sharing,or connecting to the internet service)."

 

Let me know if this did not explain the situation or if there are additional questions! :)

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