Android phones and USB DACs
Mar 23, 2015 at 11:03 PM Post #6,496 of 9,526
  Android Auto is now live for Lollipop phones and Pioneer head units:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/19/android-auto-official-launch-lollipop-pioneer/
 
"Google just proclaimed that Android Auto is ready for the masses... or at least the masses that feel like picking up a separate Pioneer head unit and own a device running Android 5.0 Lollipop. In case your memory of the search giant's in-car plans is a little fuzzy, Google wants you to be able to connect your phone to your stereo with a USB cable -- once that's done, you can issue voice commands, sketch out routes and fire up apps like Spotify or Soundcloud."


 

 
 
"Android Auto architecture: Phone runs apps, sends rendered screen to Auto via USB, Auto sends touch events to phone."
https://twitter.com/justinangel/status/485925761853825024
 

 
 
music player running on Android 5.0 Lollipop-powered Android phone >> regular USB cable >> Android Auto car audio system: car audio DAC > car audio amp > car audio speakers


 
cant wait for a nvidia x1 dash!
 
Mar 26, 2015 at 4:12 AM Post #6,497 of 9,526
Hi fellows, 
 
Im totally new here, wishing everyone a happy upcoming weekend.
 
My father is a serious audiophile and he is very interested in using his android phone to play music in his hifi systems. He was not a very techie person unfortunately.
 
I found that I need a USB DAC to convert the signal to an analog one, as I found out more, I think i am unable to use any apps to play music if I want to link up the USB DAC to the amp.
 
I dont mind buying a suitable phone for him, but can someone advise any simple solution to link his phone to the amplifers?
 
I saw this website and thought it is pretty cool!
http://yulongaudio.com/en/products.asp
 
His birthday is coming up soon, and I hope I can provide a solution to him soon. =(
 
Mar 26, 2015 at 12:12 PM Post #6,498 of 9,526
Welcome!
 
 
You may read some information about Android USB audio:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6435#post_11399099
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

 
 
According to the USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) website, UAPP is reportedly compatible with:
. Working audio devices with eXtream Software Development USB driver
.. Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 
.. Yulong Audio U100
. Working Android devices
...

 
 
So, one of possible setups could be:

DSD / high resolution audio / CD resolution audio / MP3 / ... music file > UAPP running on one of Working Android devices / phones > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable >> Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 32Bit 384kHz DAC > analog audio stream >> amp >> speakers
 
USB OTG cable = USB OTG adapter (i.e. micro USB OTG plug to standard USB receptacle) + regular USB cable provided by Yulong Audio
or
USB OTG cable = micro USB OTG plug to standard USB plug cable
 
Mar 26, 2015 at 12:50 PM Post #6,499 of 9,526
Thanks a lot for the help, but is there any other way if I dont wish to use USB Audio Player PRO?
 
My dad listens to TTPOD. He is not exactly savvy with the phone.
 
I was advised by this seller that this can plug to the phone.
http://www.china-hifi-audio.com/en/xiangsheng-valve-amp-c-36/xiangsheng-da-03a-usb-dac-tube-headphone-amp-hifi-remote-control-p-1288
 
Quote:
  Welcome!
 
 
You may read some information about Android USB audio:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/6435#post_11399099
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

 
 
According to the USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) website, UAPP is reportedly compatible with:
. Working audio devices with eXtream Software Development USB driver
.. Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 
.. Yulong Audio U100
. Working Android devices
...

 
 
So, one of possible setups could be:

DSD / high resolution audio / CD resolution audio / MP3 / ... music file > UAPP running on one of Working Android devices / phones > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable >> Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 32Bit 384kHz DAC > analog audio stream >> amp >> speakers
 
USB OTG cable = USB OTG adapter (i.e. micro USB OTG plug to standard USB receptacle) + regular USB cable provided by Yulong Audio
or
USB OTG cable = micro USB OTG plug to standard USB plug cable

 
Mar 26, 2015 at 2:13 PM Post #6,500 of 9,526
oneplus one > USB Audio Player PRO > USB OTG cable > iBasso D-Zero MKii > AKG earphones
 
reported working good and stable.
 
Can I ask, aside of USB Audio Player Pro, if there are other players supporting ubs audio? I searched for them but I couldn't find any compiled list.
 
Thank you
 
Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM Post #6,501 of 9,526
Mar 27, 2015 at 12:12 AM Post #6,502 of 9,526
Hi 
 
But is there a way if i wan anyl apps to work on the USB Dac? for example, my dad sometimes wish to play radio app or some other players.
 
I was advised that the Xiangsheng DAC 03A can be used directly, anyone has any experience?
 
Mar 27, 2015 at 2:18 AM Post #6,503 of 9,526
You can test the compatibility of the native USB audio of an Android phone and the Xiangsheng DA-03A at the USB DAC shop:

TTPOD music player / stock music player (interfacing with the native USB audio) running on an Android phone >> your USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable of the USB DAC >> Xiangsheng DA-03A USB DAC >> amp >> speakers
 
 
Native USB Audio is usually available on Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony or Xiaomi flagship models like Xiaomi Mi 3 / 4.
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
http://www.zorloo.com/#!faq/c17t3
 
Mar 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM Post #6,504 of 9,526
Thanks! Sadly.. there isn't any shop in my area. I found out only the xiangsheng dac031a te220l version can fit directly to android phones..

Is 96hz output good enough for high end hifi systems?




You can test the compatibility of the native USB audio of an Android phone and the Xiangsheng DA-03A at the USB DAC shop:


TTPOD music player / stock music player (interfacing with the native USB audio) running on an Android phone >> your USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable of the USB DAC >> Xiangsheng DA-03A USB DAC >> amp >> speakers


Native USB Audio is usually available on Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony or Xiaomi flagship models like Xiaomi Mi 3 / 4.
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
http://www.zorloo.com/#!faq/c17t3
 
Mar 29, 2015 at 5:51 AM Post #6,506 of 9,526
Sadly I didnt have a shop in where u live to test. I wish to use the app ttpod directly.
 
I realize the Xiangsheng DA-03A XMOS version cant plug and play for andriod phones, only the te220L verison can.
 
te220L can only support 96hz, is 96 hz good for high end systems?
 
Quote:
  You can test the compatibility of the native USB audio of an Android phone and the Xiangsheng DA-03A at the USB DAC shop:

TTPOD music player / stock music player (interfacing with the native USB audio) running on an Android phone >> your USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable of the USB DAC >> Xiangsheng DA-03A USB DAC >> amp >> speakers
 
 
Native USB Audio is usually available on Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony or Xiaomi flagship models like Xiaomi Mi 3 / 4.
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
http://www.zorloo.com/#!faq/c17t3

 
Mar 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM Post #6,507 of 9,526
problems here :frowning2: my Tab S + 4.4 worked perfectly with my E17 DAC - all apps, spotify etc
 
upgraded to Lollipop 5.02 - and now "locks" at 24/96 - and I either get absolutely nothing or horrible static
 
any ideas please ?
 
Mar 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM Post #6,508 of 9,526
  problems here :frowning2: my Tab S + 4.4 worked perfectly with my E17 DAC - all apps, spotify etc
 
upgraded to Lollipop 5.02 - and now "locks" at 24/96 - and I either get absolutely nothing or horrible static
 
any ideas please ?

 
i think android 5 use proprietary usb otg drivers and they does not supports everything. for example, on my OPO, i can play music through UAPP ONLY. every other software, included i.e. neutron, does not work. neutor does not even open (force close) and other software can't reproduce songs nor any audio.
 
Mar 29, 2015 at 9:14 AM Post #6,510 of 9,526
Tried Onkyo HF Player on my Galaxy Note 3 on Android 4.4.2.

Can't access my microSD music folder. Disinstalled. 


Hi, had same issue as you, not seeing SD card. Noticed I could see Denon Audio player's playlist that contained all the music on my card. I Suggest trying this to create playlist of your sdcard files or try Playlist Designer app which also works with Onkyo player.
 

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