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Android phones and USB DACs

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nztechfreak, Feb 9, 2012.
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  1. Buckster
     
    thanks - that doesn't sound good
     
    99% of my content is outside of standard music player app :frowning2: spotify, netflix, amazon prime etc
     
    there must be some sort of standard for usb audio out ? Samsung didn't write the drivers for instance to specifically work with my Fiio E17 - so both the E17 and 4.4 must have communicated using some known standard ?
     
  2. Buckster
     
    interesting - so how come its not working on say a Tab S - if Samsung have implemented (at a guess) the Lollipop USB audio implementation
     
  3. DJScope

    You can try getting in touch with Samsung support to ask that question.
     
  4. Buckster
    someone on XDA posted that their Note 4 won't work with their DAC after going to 5.02 too :frowning2:
     
    will try Samsung but prob very low on their list of priorities
     
    annoying as I bought this Tablet + DAC combo specifically
     
  5. NZtechfreak

    I think this is also affecting non-Samsung devices, from what I have seen elsewhere. I guess some bug in the Lollipop implementation, rather than something Samsung-specific?

    UAPP still working though, correct?
     
  6. XipeTotec
     
    i'm running EuphoriaOS (based on android 5.0.2) on my OnePlus One and i can confirm UAPP still works. You can try by yourselves, just download the trial version from here: http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/USBAudioPlayerPROTrial_2.0.1.apk
     
  7. DanBa
    Android USB audio
     
    Information search:
    1. Click on the following link
    https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22XY%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F595071%2Fandroid-phones-and-usb-dacs
    2. Replace XY by your search keyword(s).
     
    FAQ:
    http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
     
    A list of USB OTG cables:
    http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
     
    A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
    stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
     
    A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
    http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android 5.0 Lollipop:
    stock Google Nexus X running on Android 5.0 Lollipop > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/x3loEQ
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/yBKivk
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
    stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
    stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/zUjud0
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note4:
    stock Samsung Galaxy Note4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/gnmvuf
     
    USB DAC descriptors:
    http://goo.gl/pYJbTu
     
    The basics:
    http://goo.gl/MCFY2x
     


     
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  8. DanBa
     
    It depends on your dad.
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/415361/24bit-vs-16bit-the-myth-exploded
     
    It depends on the definition of high end hifi system.
    Some people prefer a system which can play any music file (DSD, high resolution audio, CD resolution audio, ...) without resampling or conversion.
     
  9. jagu
    I read in this thread that some of you use powered hubs and I'd like to get som input from you.
    Looking for a powered USB hub that I can use with LG G3 or Samsung Galaxy S Tab together with my ifi micro iDSD (has built-in battery). I'd like to power the iDSD at the same time using my android devices. I googled and found hubs that  have OTG input and I was wondering if audio is supported by the USB hubs. If the hub also supports PC audio, great!
    E.g: http://www.unitek-products.com/en/product_detail.php?id=305
     
    Any hub suggestions would be appreciated!
     
  10. av911
    LG G Pad 7 (4.4.2) and Moto G (5.1, AOSP) works with Fiio E17.
     
  11. whitemass
    USB DAC Properties have to be ran through the SDK for any device, and to override and use the DAC as a primary Sound Card, you need permissions that most ROMs' running below KitKat can access.
    Want help with this? Contact LokiMUI, or PM me and I can see if he's available.
    You can use some DACs on the Nook Colour, but as we speak, there have always been several that are unconfirmed.
    High End things can be used as well. But keep in mind, CM9 is the way to go since the Source Script .api, boot.img, &ADB Scripts run stock.
    I don't wanna sound rude, but as I'm a developer myself, this is a lot of work. To fulfill your goal, we're talking about a months worth of trial and error.
     
  12. NZtechfreak

    Uh, that's some necro of an age old post there. We've had USB audio a while now, if you want to check the rest of the thread.
     
  13. Staxton
     
    Hi,
     
    I am trying a version of this setup -- Galaxy S4 using UAPP >> powered USB Hub connected to a Seagate 2TB USB hard drive >> ifi Micro iDSD DAC >> Headphones.  My 2 TB hard drive is formatted with the NTSF file system, so I had to root the Galaxy S4 and install Paragon app to be able to view the files on the drive. The problem is, I still can't access the files from UAPP, and UAPP will not play any files on the hard drive if I try to play them from a file manager like ES File Explorer. I can play the files using the standard music playing apps, but of course the sound is output through the Galaxy speakers, not the ifi Micro iDSD. 
     
    My question to Danba or to anyone else using a similar setup - What file system are you using on your external hard drive - Fat32? Has anyone been able to use UAPP with an external drive or SD Card formatted with the NTSF file system?
     
    Thanks very much.
     
  14. Sound Eq
    guys can u use viper4android with usb dac connected to android phone, for example

    i want to connect my phone to an ifi micro dsd and play music through onkyo can i use the viper4android on the onkyo player
     
  15. RAFA

    Have you tried hiby music app?
     
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