Just received my APM over the weekend and so far loving them. A question for the more knowledgeable. Is the tuning different between the three modes (ANC on, transparency and off)? I was listening to some metal and I swear the bass seemed to be a little heavier with ANC on, but maybe I'm just imagining it.
I don't think there is a notable difference between ANC on and off, which is kind of surprising as most other headphones are different in that regard.
Other than that, they might sometimes appear to have more/less bass because of a slightly different seal and especially the adaptive EQ that constantly tries to compensate for that. Just an idea, though.
I don't think there is a notable difference between ANC on and off, which is kind of surprising as most other headphones are different in that regard.
Other than that, they might sometimes appear to have more/less bass because of a slightly different seal and especially the adaptive EQ that constantly tries to compensate for that. Just an idea, though.
Objective measurements from Jude show that there is not change between anc and transparency.
Any perception of performance difference like an increase in bass can probably be simply explained by how ANC’s isolation allows for a more isolated listening experience.
So ordered AirPods Max today, and plan to compare them to my Bose QC 35 (I believe I have the first revision) as well as AirPods Pro on their ANC performance, which is the most important thing for a closed back headphone for me. Stay tuned if you are interested.
So I'm not really "wowed" by the APM sound signature (haven't played with the headphone accommodations). They sound too neutral to me. I guess I'm a fan of a coloured sound. My ears are far from trained, but I guess I would say that I prefer more elevated mids and mid-bass (as opposed to sub-bass rumble). I remember enjoying the sound of the original B&W P5, back in the day. I want a pair of headphones that will really sound fun with Hip-Hop.
I think I'd like to return my APM and buy something else. Can anybody point me in the direction of a good thread debating what the best wireless headphones are? They don't need to be ANC-enabled.
So I'm not really "wowed" by the APM sound signature (haven't played with the headphone accommodations). They sound too neutral to me. I guess I'm a fan of a coloured sound. My ears are far from trained, but I guess I would say that I prefer more elevated mids and mid-bass (as opposed to sub-bass rumble). I remember enjoying the sound of the original B&W P5, back in the day. I want a pair of headphones that will really sound fun with Hip-Hop.
I think I'd like to return my APM and buy something else. Can anybody point me in the direction of a good thread debating what the best wireless headphones are? They don't need to be ANC-enabled.
Well I personally wouldn't call the APM "neutral" by any counts. It definitely needs some more present/elevated mids (upper mids IMO) and a small mid-bass bump for the reasons you state. Using accommodations (balanced) may help with the mids.
If you don't need ANC, look at the Panda, they do have a parametric EQ you can use (despite it being finicky to set up, the EQ is great) or even the P7 Wireless (if you can find them still). The NAD HP70 may also be up your alley. If you want something really cheap, check out the AKG N700NC M2, they're in the 150 price range right now and a great value for that price. All that being said, if you don't need the ANC the APM offers, then there will be lots of better options out there for the price.
So I'm not really "wowed" by the APM sound signature (haven't played with the headphone accommodations). They sound too neutral to me. I guess I'm a fan of a coloured sound. My ears are far from trained, but I guess I would say that I prefer more elevated mids and mid-bass (as opposed to sub-bass rumble). I remember enjoying the sound of the original B&W P5, back in the day. I want a pair of headphones that will really sound fun with Hip-Hop.
I think I'd like to return my APM and buy something else. Can anybody point me in the direction of a good thread debating what the best wireless headphones are? They don't need to be ANC-enabled.
Consider giving B&O H95 a try, they are the only other wireless set I would consider from a SQ point of view... they have some issues but if you set them into neutral mode and don’t plan to use the ANC/Transparency, they should make you happy with the SQ and punchiness.
I owned both, ultimately choosing to keep the APM which worked better for my needs, but can’t deny the H95 sound great.
So I'm not really "wowed" by the APM sound signature (haven't played with the headphone accommodations). They sound too neutral to me. I guess I'm a fan of a coloured sound. My ears are far from trained, but I guess I would say that I prefer more elevated mids and mid-bass (as opposed to sub-bass rumble). I remember enjoying the sound of the original B&W P5, back in the day. I want a pair of headphones that will really sound fun with Hip-Hop.
I think I'd like to return my APM and buy something else. Can anybody point me in the direction of a good thread debating what the best wireless headphones are? They don't need to be ANC-enabled.
So I'm not really "wowed" by the APM sound signature (haven't played with the headphone accommodations). They sound too neutral to me. I guess I'm a fan of a coloured sound. My ears are far from trained, but I guess I would say that I prefer more elevated mids and mid-bass (as opposed to sub-bass rumble). I remember enjoying the sound of the original B&W P5, back in the day. I want a pair of headphones that will really sound fun with Hip-Hop.
I think I'd like to return my APM and buy something else. Can anybody point me in the direction of a good thread debating what the best wireless headphones are? They don't need to be ANC-enabled.
If you don’t want neutral and prefer fun, try the Sennheiser Momentum 3, Bowers and Wilkins PX7, or Sony 1000XM4. Although they’re fairly old now, the Beats Studio 3 Wireless has elevated low mids and a mid/high bass boost.
To be totally honest with you all, applying the Audiorgram profile to the accommodations has made the sound so much better for me and is compensating for my wonky ears. This morning, I have turned off the Audio Accommodations that does not use the Mimi Hearing Test Profile and the music sounds remarkably flat and dull.
Worth a try for those who have not done it? I am surprised but when listening stuff on my Ipad it will be dull and flat listening (Don’t get my wrong it is still good) but just not as good when applying the Mimi Hearing test profile.
If you don’t want neutral and prefer fun, try the Sennheiser Momentum 3, Bowers and Wilkins PX7, or Sony 1000XM4. Although they’re fairly old now, the Beats Studio 3 Wireless has elevated low mids and a mid/high bass boost.
I owned the WH-1000XM4’s for a month before I got a haircut on eBay. Underwhelmed by the sound and the operation. I did not take to the “finger slider”.
The XM4s are completely outclassed if we’re comparing them to the APM, the Senns and the Bowers headset. They might have better ANC but sound quality and aesthetics just aren’t there.
The XM4s are completely outclassed if we’re comparing them to the APM, the Senns and the Bowers headset. They might have better ANC but sound quality and aesthetics just aren’t there.
Does it make sense to use the APM with an external DAC/Amp such as the Dragonfly Cobalt and a with a DAP such as the AK SP2000? Is the internal DAC of the APM bypassed when used in wired mode?
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