[Skylab]

That's for sure!  Tubes will VERY often sound different in different amps.  The circuit plays a huge role in how the tube will sound.
 
Not only that, but individual tube samples will vary in sound, due to age.  So it is very important to have a broad cross-section of opinions!

 

[xinque]

Sigh.. Wallet hurting from tube rolling. But think I can fit in one more pair for the year. Anyone have an opinion on how TS BGRP / Mullard ECC32 / Treasures might sound compared to my Brimar CV1988?

 

[rosgr63]

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That's for sure!  Tubes will VERY often sound different in different amps.  The circuit plays a huge role in how the tube will sound.
 
Not only that, but individual tube samples will vary in sound, due to age.  So it is very important to have a broad cross-section of opinions!

Couldn't agree more.
I have found out to my surprise that the same tubes from different batches sound different.
 

 

[dminches]

The TS BGRP and the Mullard ECC32s are my 2 favorites for my Modwright Transporter.  They are the most dynamic and most detailed while not being exaggerated at any of the frequencies.  They will both make your wallet moan and groan.
 
 

 

[musicman59]

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Sigh.. Wallet hurting from tube rolling. But think I can fit in one more pair for the year.

Anyone have an opinion on how TS BGRP / Mullard ECC32 / Treasures might sound compared to my Brimar CV1988?

I actually own the TS BGRP, Mullard ECC32 and Brimar CV1988 and used to own the Treasures.
I like the ECC32 the best and then tie in second the Brimar and the TS. The Treasures IMO are in third with a wide margin.
IMO the ECC32 has the dymanics of the TS and the romantic sound of the Brimar. they are expensive but worth the money IMO.
 
 
 

 

[TheWuss]

hey, guys.
long time listener, first time caller. 

 
the Peak/Volcano is my first 6sn7 amp.  and, i haven't had the amp too long.
so, i'm new to this terrific thread...
 
And I just wanted to report my findings with my Peak/Volcano.
 
I've rolled several 6sn7 types.  Including the ubiquitous Shuguang Treasure, the lovely Brimar CV1988, RCA gray glass, Ken Rad VT-231, etc.
 
And, oddly, my favorite tube of all i tried so far is the humble Sylvania 6sn7gtb chrome top, from the late 1950s.  
 
The sound is simply fantastic.
The tube has a very low noise floor, and produces a rich, dynamic, and holographic sound.
It easily competes with the Treasure for detail, but without the unwanted extra highs...
 
So, any of you experts want to tell me i'm off my rocker for prefering this simple tube, that can be found for $80 or thereabouts?
Am I nuts?
 
cheers!

the wuss 

 

[rosgr63]

The Sylvania 6SN7GTB chrome top is a very nice tube indeed.
I do prefer the Sylvania 6SN7W and 6SN7WGTA more.

 

[john57]

I also just found out that my two NU tubes do not sound alike. Thanks for the tip.
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That's for sure!  Tubes will VERY often sound different in different amps.  The circuit plays a huge role in how the tube will sound.
 
Not only that, but individual tube samples will vary in sound, due to age.  So it is very important to have a broad cross-section of opinions!

 

 

[Wedge]

Thats the thing about these old tubes, sometimes from tube to tube, they get to be in different stages of their lives and they don't always sound the same, but they can still test ok. 
 
The Wuss, I also have the Peak/Volcano, and I love it with the ECC32, as well as the Fivre 6SN7GT.  Recently I decidedly to try out a Sylvania Bad Boy, and I like this one as well.   Another tube I like for use with headphones is Osram B65, which costs a small fortune, but I found this tube to be a little bit bass light for pre amp duties.  Sometimes tube choice can be dependant on the cans used, so for me since I mostly listen to LCD-2s, you all can use that as my point of reference.  I would kind of place the TSRP behind those other tubes, although it is quite a good tube nonetheless.

 

[TheWuss]

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...ECC32, as well as the Fivre 6SN7GT.  Recently I decidedly to try out a Sylvania Bad Boy, and I like this one as well.   Another tube I like for use with headphones is Osram B65, which costs a small fortune, but I found this tube to be a little bit bass light for pre amp duties.

 
boy...  tube rolling the peak is a real blast.
one tube.  easy as pie.  and the differences telegraph straight through...  and are easily appreciated.
 
thanks, wedge, for the other tube ideas.  those italian tubes look gorgeous...

 

[Skylab]

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  And I just wanted to report my findings with my Peak/Volcano.
 
I've rolled several 6sn7 types.  Including the ubiquitous Shuguang Treasure, the lovely Brimar CV1988, RCA gray glass, Ken Rad VT-231, etc.
 
And, oddly, my favorite tube of all i tried so far is the humble Sylvania 6sn7gtb chrome top, from the late 1950s.  
 
 

No great surprise to me.  I personally believe the Sylvania 6SN7GTB sounds better than the Shuggie, or ANY current production 6SN7 type.
 

 

[xinque]

Mm..  time to hunt down an ECC32 then.  Anyone know some reputable dealers with them in stock?  Can't seem to find them anywhere other than tubeworld.
 
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I actually own the TS BGRP, Mullard ECC32 and Brimar CV1988 and used to own the Treasures.
I like the ECC32 the best and then tie in second the Brimar and the TS. The Treasures IMO are in third with a wide margin.
IMO the ECC32 has the dymanics of the TS and the romantic sound of the Brimar. they are expensive but worth the money IMO. 
 
 

 

 

[kiertijai]

I have used the Balancing Act for sometime and is now enjoying the tube rolling.
I was proposed the Philips-Pope 6sn7 but the the price is high for a used one
I wonder that is it the same as Philip-MWT 6SN7.  The seller as well as upscaleaudio
mention that it is the best. So what should I do, anyone has used the Philips-Pope 6sN7
  I also used the Balancing Act as a preamplifier and found
that the preamplifier function i excellent preamplifier.  I used it to tame the bright
edge and make the midrange of the Stax SR009 full, rich and sweet flowing.   I used
the GEC B65 and National Union black glass 6sn7 to do the job.  Other 6SN7 is very good too.
   For me I found that I like several 6SN7's : for the warm full sound I prefer the ECC32,
GEC B65, ECC33, and National union.   For the audiophile music I use the Tungsol black glass
round plate, Telefunken 6sn7wgta and Swedish standard, SICTE Fivre.   For rock or
pop music I will use Kenrad , Sylvania metal base or National Union
   I also found that the Mullard 6SN7, Tungsram and Brimar long bottle is very good too.  Seems
like I prefer long bottle Brimar more than the CV1988
   I am now trying to use 68FG's   but I have no experience can someone suggest which one
should I get?   I have tried some and prefer the National Union and Raytheon.
   Can 7n7 be used to , if so which one should I try?
   I don't know much about tubes so I cannot identify some of them,   I have seen long bottle RCA
Westinghouse and Tungsol 6SN7GTB,  are they good too?
Thanks everyone
kiertijai

 

[musicman59]

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Mm..  time to hunt down an ECC32 then.  Anyone know some reputable dealers with them in stock?  Can't seem to find them anywhere other than tubeworld.
 


 

I bought my two pairs from ebay with no issues at all.
Try here. I bought a pair of tubes from him with no problems at all.
http://www.natubes.com/index.php?page=product&do=search
 
 
 

 

[Badd99]

Okay im trying to find a tube in the 6sn7 family that will match well with my LCD-2's. The amp will vary so don't worry about that factor. 
 
Im just looking for something with a reasonable price that has nice bass, midrange, and soundstage. Something around the $25 max price range is what I would like to shoot for atm. 
 
I would really appreciate the help?
 
I was looking at the Ken Rad Vt-231 black glass but since ill run them on a preamp the microphonics might be bad....
 
I do have a Hytron 6sn7gt but I have not tried it and am reading mix reviews on it, what do you think? I got it for $8 with free shipping so I took it.