6SN7 Tube Addicts
Mar 9, 2018 at 10:44 AM Post #6,121 of 7,413
If i use tube adapter to use 6SN7 tubes instead of 6922's. What kind of change in sound can i except ? I have Copland CTA301 mkII (6922) pre amp.
https://www.tubedepot.com/products/6sn7-to-6922-adapter

btw, can i use tubes like above CV 181-T MKII with this same adapter ?

Thanks&cheers

I know nothing about your amp... But the 6SN7 heaters draw 0.6A whereas the 6922 heaters draw only 0.3A, twice as much, so be sure your amp can handle this. Otherwise, you could damage your amp.

And yes, if you can safely roll 6SN7, you can also roll the Psvanes CV 181, which is just a "pretty" 6SN7. :)
 
Mar 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Post #6,122 of 7,413
I know nothing about your amp... But the 6SN7 heaters draw 0.6A whereas the 6922 heaters draw only 0.3A, twice as much, so be sure your amp can handle this. Otherwise, you could damage your amp.

And yes, if you can safely roll 6SN7, you can also roll the Psvanes CV 181, which is just a "pretty" 6SN7*. :)

*That sounds amazing.
 
Mar 9, 2018 at 11:08 AM Post #6,123 of 7,413
There was recent chatter in one of the threads around here about the Tung Sol 6sn7 GT Mouse Ears, so I thought I'd try one. I'm using a Project Ember ll and have two Sylvania 6sn7 GTB's, a Ken-Rad 6sn7 GT, and another Sylvania 6sn7 GT to compare to. One of the Sylvania GTB's is a standout and my favorite.

I found one on eBay that said 'New Listing' , whatever that means. It was reasonable so I grabbed it. It appears to have been a good decision. Comparing to my best Sylvania, it is cleaner sounding with better upper detail which gives the sensation of more air. Better midrange, vocals. The bass is not as strong but tighter. But that is easily remedied with the Schiit Loki. It also has a silent noise floor unlike the Sylvania that has slight noise on the left channel.

The tube of course was listed as a Tung Sol but there is nothing on it that I can detect what, exactly it is. I'm thinking maybe that the tube was funky and the vendor might have cleaned it up, removing any markings. Does that sound plausible? The other thing is that it has a brown base. (It might be a little hard to tell in the pic) I can't find any information on brown base Tong Sol 6sn7 GT Mouse Ears.

Is there a way to tell exactly what this is for sure?

Edit to add: It's a very dark brown on the base. Maybe that's not considered brown?



Unfortunately your pictures are too dark to see any detail...

First, the color of the base has no affect on the sound. It is what is inside the glass bottle that matters.

This Tung-Sol 6SN7GT is called "mouse ears" because of the unique round mica spacers. To my knowledge, no other 6SN7 has this structure. Later versions of this tube have "squared" ears, and even later versions, the ears disappeared. However, the plates remained the same, ribbed and gray.

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Mar 9, 2018 at 12:21 PM Post #6,125 of 7,413
I know nothing about your amp... But the 6SN7 heaters draw 0.6A whereas the 6922 heaters draw only 0.3A, twice as much, so be sure your amp can handle this. Otherwise, you could damage your amp.

And yes, if you can safely roll 6SN7, you can also roll the Psvanes CV 181, which is just a "pretty" 6SN7. :)
Great info!, gibosi!.
 
Mar 9, 2018 at 12:27 PM Post #6,126 of 7,413
These are my endgame tubes. They get better every day!
Good to hear you're enjoying them chy, if the reviews are correct then I guess you still might have someway to go, enjoy the burn in, I'm hoping mine will arrive tomorrow and then I can begin the long road to audio nirvana! :wink:.
 
Mar 9, 2018 at 12:27 PM Post #6,127 of 7,413
*That sounds amazing.

We all have different ears and different gear... :)

It is important to understand that the "real" CV181, as manufactured by Mullard, is not the same as a 6SN7. It has a higher amplification factor, 32 compared to 20, and the heaters draw 0.95A. And again, not every amp designed to run 6SN7 can handle the higher heater current. But the Psvane product is not really a CV181. It is a merely a 6SN7 in an ST bottle. And I will leave it to others to debate its sonic characteristics. :)
 
Mar 10, 2018 at 8:35 AM Post #6,129 of 7,413
^^^ thanks for the adapter info, tubedepot said that it's safe to try this adapter&tube combo with 6922.
i'm gonna order pair and see how it goes.

while searching info i also found that 6SN7's can be used (with adapter) instead of 12AU7's.. and my power amp uses 12AU7's... :metal:

cheers
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 10:37 AM Post #6,133 of 7,413
Hey people - just started going through this thread a few days ago. I am upgrading my Bottlehead Crack to a Crackatwoa, going to be doing some modding and decided to give the 6SN7's a go as my drivers. Was hoping for some recommendations as far as quality 6SN7's that are around $75 or less in price. So far, I picked up a Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7W short bottle with black base and green text for $70 (not sure of the exact year, but presumably 1940's) and a 1953 Hytron 6SN7GT NIB for $30.

Some other tubes I am looking at are the RCA VT-231/6SN7GT gray glass from the 1940's (seems to run around $50) and the Ken Rad VT-231 black glass (seems to run around $75). I know some of the Tung Sol's are highly regarded, but the round plates seem to be out of my price range.

How did I do on my first purchases, and are the RCA and Ken Rad good pick-ups as well? Any other recommendations would be appreciated. Cheers!

P.S. Below are the two tubes I've purchased. I also run the Western Electric 421A and Tung Sol 5998 as output tubes on the Crack.

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Mar 24, 2018 at 10:53 AM Post #6,134 of 7,413
Hey people - just started going through this thread a few days ago. I am upgrading my Bottlehead Crack to a Crackatwoa, going to be doing some modding and decided to give the 6SN7's a go as my drivers. Was hoping for some recommendations as far as quality 6SN7's that are around $75 or less in price. So far, I picked up a Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7W short bottle with black base and green text for $70 (not sure of the exact year, but presumably 1940's) and a 1953 Hytron 6SN7GT NIB for $30.

Some other tubes I am looking at are the RCA VT-231/6SN7GT gray glass from the 1940's (seems to run around $50) and the Ken Rad VT-231 black glass (seems to run around $75). I know some of the Tung Sol's are highly regarded, but the round plates seem to be out of my price range.

How did I do on my first purchases, and are the RCA and Ken Rad good pick-ups as well? Any other recommendations would be appreciated. Cheers!

P.S. Below are the two tubes I've purchased. I also run the Western Electric 421A and Tung Sol 5998 as output tubes on the Crack.

Some nice tubes their @L0rdGwyn. My recommendation would be the 6N8S Foton, 52-55, Ribbed anode, strictly between those years, nothing after, they're cheap but rare, they offer a superb spacious, transparent, detailed and dynamic/punchy sound. I know Foton tubes have a patchy reputation but the 52-55 ribbed anode is a cracker, a genuine sleeper imo, if you are interested here is a link to where I bought mine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-4...var=431877643099&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 11:29 AM Post #6,135 of 7,413
Some nice tubes their @L0rdGwyn. My recommendation would be the 6N8S Foton, 52-55, Ribbed anode, strictly between those years, nothing after, they're cheap but rare, they offer a superb spacious, transparent, detailed and dynamic/punchy sound. I know Foton tubes have a patchy reputation but the 52-55 ribbed anode is a cracker, a genuine sleeper imo, if you are interested here is a link to where I bought mine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-4-pcs-6N8S-Audio-Triode-Tubes-6SN7GT-ECC32-6CC10-NOS-See-Variations/132525010141?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=431877643099&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Fantastic! Thanks for the recommendation and the link, @Scutey . I think I will pick up a set, four tubes for $30 USD, a little overkill HA but that's how it goes with the Russian tubes.

Just out of curiosity, how did you hear about the 6N8S from Foton being high-performing in such a narrow date range?
 

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