[rosgr63]

No problems, here's the updated table.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

[rosgr63]

Please let me have your opinions on these three lists:
 
DRIVER
 
6SL7/6SN7 ECC32/ECC33/ECC34/ECC35
 
I am not including other 6SN7 equivalents like B65/Q65 etc.
 
6AS7G
 
6080 6520 7236
 
 
5998
 
WE421 2399 

 

[2359glenn]

I really didn't like the way the 7236 sounded. Bought a pair and used them for 10 minutes and sold them on E-Bay
 
I like the 5998 but never tried the WE421 or 2399 they should be run on the 5998 setting for best sound though.
 
Question  Rosgr63  have you ever tried a BL63 in place of a 6SN7 with adapter.

 

[Silent One]

A Wild, Wild Night, Way Out West...
 
My overnight listening session just went Final @ 0700 hrs. Got three computers fired up, all engaged. Usually, I may operate one - sometimes, I simply shut everything down, the less the better. But this morning, all of them are whirling and in different directions.
 
I need to briefly shut two of them down and hop back on the third to explain all the activity and why my desk is completely covered with boxes of tubes. Back in 20...
 
...@ 2300 hrs last night, I was going through a ceremonial approach to my upcoming listening session 'round midnight. Then received a courtesy text, asking if I was both inside and if so, was I awake? This is because the home was completely dark...or nearly so. It isn't out of the ordinary for me to be sitting in the dark and in silence. 

 
So, I went to the door and someone close to me had delivered three boxes of tubes he just inherited. He was gifted maybe a dozen antique radios from the '20's - '50's. Only plans on keeping 3 or 4. But didn't want to bother with the surplus tubes he knows nuthin' about. I'm free to do whatever with the 100 or so tubes. Likely less than that, but I'm sleepy and if I say there's 100, there's 100! 

 
A bunch of miscellaneous tubes of all sizes - no hidden treasures though. But many have good visual appearance, some new and I'm certain maybe 20-25 have value, like the 12AX7, 12AT7, 12AU7, Black Glass 6V6GT (1948), Mullard EF86's and so on. There's even a pair '45s' but they're marked as tested poorly. And a few weird looking rectifiers from 1926 and stuff. I plan on giving away perhaps 50-60 and try to sell the remaining handful.
 
BUT, when I had the money to buy a tube tester in the last 24 months, I kept putting it off. 

 Now I need that bad boy! All-in-all, it should make for a fun little project this winter. It'll probably take that long to get a decent tester.
 
Before this surprise visit, I was set to evaluate the new revision of Amarra on the Mac mini music server. The show went on as planned, but I also had on the latex gloves trying to process the inventory of glass out of the boxes, research them online with computer #2 and shop for tube testers on computer #3. 
 
I was so busy overnight, this had to go down as one of the fastest sessions ever...simply a blur. Now it's time for bed and I'm w-i-d-e awake.

 

[rosgr63]

Quote:

I really didn't like the way the 7236 sounded. Bought a pair and used them for 10 minutes and sold them on E-Bay
 
I like the 5998 but never tried the WE421 or 2399 they should be run on the 5998 setting for best sound though.
 
Question  Rosgr63  have you ever tried a BL63 in place of a 6SN7 with adapter.

 
 
Iam not particularly fond of the 7236, but with some driver combinations it's fine.
 
I don't have an amp that can cope with the 1.3A the BL63 needs, so I've never tried it.
Kiertijai who has, likes it a lot.
 
I like the WE421, it's a nice sounding tube close to 5998.
 
The Bendix 6080 "Red Bank" and the humble RCA 6AS7G are one of my favourites.

 

[Seamaster]

I got tired play " paper, scissor, tube". So i got myself a B&K 747B. Tube tester is a must for serious tube players, saver you time and money in the long run.
 
6080 are dark ans thick sounding comapre to 6AS7, should work well with cans like HD800.

 

[2359glenn]

Quote:

 
 
Iam not particularly fond of the 7236, but with some driver combinations it's fine.
 
I don't have an amp that can cope with the 1.3A the BL63 needs, so I've never tried it.
Kiertijai who has, likes it a lot.
 
I like the WE421, it's a nice sounding tube close to 5998.
 
The Bendix 6080 "Red Bank" and the humble RCA 6AS7G are one of my favourites.

I will have to send you a  6F8G adapter with a longer grid lead to try the BL63

 

[Silent One]

Thanks, Seamaster. Also, for our fellow members just waking up, spend the morning with 'Silent One' and get free tea & tips! The first tip - Astrud Gilberto paired with the Brimar 13D1 glass. It rained overnight and left me feeling romantic. Her vocals were at once rich yet relaxed and dare to say...dreamy.

 

[rosgr63]

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I will have to send you a  6F8G adapter with a longer grid lead to try the BL63

 
Glenn please don't!
 
You don't want me to get another tube addiction do you?
 
Seamaster well done, now you've seen the light.
Spending on a tester is the best tube money one ever spends.
 
The B&K 747 is a great tester, the short and leakages tests one of the best at 100Mohm.
However they test a 6SN7 at 19mA instead of 9mA so your results will be lower.
That means a good 6SN7 on the B&K is better than what you read.
 
Make sure it's been rebuilt/checked/calibrated.

 

[Seamaster]

Quote:

Thanks, Seamaster. Also, for our fellow members just waking up, spend the morning with 'Silent One' and get free tea & tips! The first tip - Astrud Gilberto paired with the Brimar 13D1 glass. It rained overnight and left me feeling romantic. Her vocals were at once rich yet relaxed and dare to say...dreamy.

I am just help you to end the debate

Quote:

 
Glenn please don't!
 
You don't want me to get another tube addiction do you?
 
Seamaster well done, now you've seen the light.
Spending on a tester is the best tube money one ever spends.
 
The B&K 747 is a great tester, the short and leakages tests one of the best at 100Mohm.
However they test a 6SN7 at 19mA instead of 9mA so your results will be lower.
That means a good 6SN7 on the B&K is better than what you read.
 
Make sure it's been rebuilt/checked/calibrated.

6F8Gs are addictive, I never tried BL63 myself. But I would think they should be even better than NU 6F8G round plate. Can someone compare them for me? Are they worth $300 more?
I was lucky to pick a Calibrated BK 747b for $150 3 years ago, never been happer after that. They are solid state by the way.
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I will have to send you a  6F8G adapter with a longer grid lead to try the BL63

Go get him Glenn!!

 

[rosgr63]

Is there a conspiracy against me?
 
It's bad as it is, don't need more tubes..........
 
SO please put them right!
 
 

 
 
 
BTW the Bendix 6080 are not dark, anything but dark, no comparison with the other 6080's, try them if you can.

 

[john57]

Quote:

I really didn't like the way the 7236 sounded. Bought a pair and used them for 10 minutes and sold them on E-Bay
 
I like the 5998 but never tried the WE421 or 2399 they should be run on the 5998 setting for best sound though.
 
Question  Rosgr63  have you ever tried a BL63 in place of a 6SN7 with adapter.

Glenn,
 
I agree with you that I did not like the 7236, too thin sounding for my needs. Never tried the 5998.

 

[john57]

. DP

 

[john57]

 
 
 

I never had any luck with tubes that were labeled 5V3 or the 5V3A for me they are not the same as the 5AU4 tubes.

 

[longbowbbs]

Quote:

A Wild, Wild Night, Way Out West...
 
My overnight listening session just went Final @ 0700 hrs. Got three computers fired up, all engaged. Usually, I may operate one - sometimes, I simply shut everything down, the less the better. But this morning, all of them are whirling and in different directions.
 
I need to briefly shut two of them down and hop back on the third to explain all the activity and why my desk is completely covered with boxes of tubes. Back in 20...
 
...@ 2300 hrs last night, I was going through a ceremonial approach to my upcoming listening session 'round midnight. Then received a courtesy text, asking if I was both inside and if so, was I awake? This is because the home was completely dark...or nearly so. It isn't out of the ordinary for me to be sitting in the dark and in silence. 

 
So, I went to the door and someone close to me had delivered three boxes of tubes he just inherited. He was gifted maybe a dozen antique radios from the '20's - '50's. Only plans on keeping 3 or 4. But didn't want to bother with the surplus tubes he knows nuthin' about. I'm free to do whatever with the 100 or so tubes. Likely less than that, but I'm sleepy and if I say there's 100, there's 100! 

 
A bunch of miscellaneous tubes of all sizes - no hidden treasures though. But many have good visual appearance, some new and I'm certain maybe 20-25 have value, like the 12AX7, 12AT7, 12AU7, Black Glass 6V6GT (1948), Mullard EF86's and so on. There's even a pair '45s' but they're marked as tested poorly. And a few weird looking rectifiers from 1926 and stuff. I plan on giving away perhaps 50-60 and try to sell the remaining handful.
 
BUT, when I had the money to buy a tube tester in the last 24 months, I kept putting it off. 

 Now I need that bad boy! All-in-all, it should make for a fun little project this winter. It'll probably take that long to get a decent tester.
 
Before this surprise visit, I was set to evaluate the new revision of Amarra on the Mac mini music server. The show went on as planned, but I also had on the latex gloves trying to process the inventory of glass out of the boxes, research them online with computer #2 and shop for tube testers on computer #3. 
 
I was so busy overnight, this had to go down as one of the fastest sessions ever...simply a blur. Now it's time for bed and I'm w-i-d-e awake.

Christmas came early the the Silent One!