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Nov 18, 2012 at 3:57 PM Post #1,051 of 39,983
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Glenn please don't!
 
You don't want me to get another tube addiction do you?
 
Seamaster well done, now you've seen the light.
Spending on a tester is the best tube money one ever spends.
 
The B&K 747 is a great tester, the short and leakages tests one of the best at 100Mohm.
However they test a 6SN7 at 19mA instead of 9mA so your results will be lower.
That means a good 6SN7 on the B&K is better than what you read.
 
Make sure it's been rebuilt/checked/calibrated.

OK I won't send the adapters you would get a addiction to $300.00 tubes?  OK I will just bring them in the summer.
Have you tried the LP2 tubes yet?
 
Nov 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM Post #1,052 of 39,983
Now you are talking, you have made me very happy tonight, really looking forward to it!
And don't forget your tester too.
 
I have tried the LP2.
They are microphonic but they sound very nice and detailed they have qualities similar to some 6SL7 I tried but better.
 
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Nov 18, 2012 at 4:33 PM Post #1,053 of 39,983
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Now you are talking, you have made me very happy tonight, really looking forward to it!
And don't forget your tester too.
 
I have tried the LP2.
They are microphonic but they sound very nice and detailed they have qualities similar to some 6SL7 I tried but better.
 
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Your amp has that small filament isolation transformer for the LP2 and 12 volt boost for the 12SN7 that it will be pushing but it should be OK. Because it's output is 12.6 volts at one amp so at 6.3 I am sure it can handle a little more. Every one else that has one of these
amps has no problem with the BL63 they have 5 amps reserve on the 6.3 volts
 I'm sure you kneed more tubes to try!!
 
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM Post #1,055 of 39,983
If you have some 6SN7s in that batch of tubes just put them in the amp. The best test is see how they sound. There is
really nothing the 6SN7 can do to the amp. The 6AS7  you might want to test them for shorts though. other then shorts
most readings from a tube tester are meaningless. Unless you bought expensive tubes that supposed to have matched sections
you can test that you are getting your money's worth.
 
Nov 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM Post #1,056 of 39,983
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If you have some 6SN7s in that batch of tubes just put them in the amp. The best test is see how they sound. There is
really nothing the 6SN7 can do to the amp. The 6AS7  you might want to test them for shorts though. other then shorts
most readings from a tube tester are meaningless. Unless you bought expensive tubes that supposed to have matched sections
you can test that you are getting your money's worth.

 
After further review, I can't use any of these tubes. At least not as is - an adapter perhaps, for one or two among the stash. There's certainly about two dozen worth selling, especially the Mullards. The rest I'll just gift and forget. Got a few really old rectifiers that look neat, and may keep just to be having things. 
 
I did find a 1948 pair of round cylinder black glass GE 6V6GT's. Need to look up what they'd go in. Previous owner labeled a pair or two of '45s' that didn't make the cut. Will eventually clean 'em all up and shoot pix of the ones I an't never seen before.
 
I did find a couple of manuals - RCA Receiving Tubes for AM, FM & Television (1950c) and RCA Victor Radio Tubes (1940c). Interesting stuff inside them...
 
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM Post #1,057 of 39,983
You can get a adapter to use a 12AU7 in the 6SN7 socket or a 6CG7/6FQ7 but you might be better off selling them and use the money to buy a real 6SN7 or
one of it's variants. Better sounding then those 9 pin tubes. and you are not going to have one that beats your TSBGRP 6SN7s
 
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM Post #1,058 of 39,983
I have used Mullard CV4003, and Mazda shield 6CG7 and Amperex 6CG7 with adapters in place of 6SN7. 12au7 type sound drier than others. 6CG7s sounded cooler and faster, but better extension on both end, especially bass present. 6F8G is better balanced in place of 6SN7.
 
What do you think of Eimac tubes? Not limited for headphone amp.
 
100TH (Eimac) 5V 6.3A 100W (4T17)
250TL (Hitachi)  5V 10.5A 250W (5T20)
450TL (Toshiba) 7.5V 12A 450W (5T30)
750TL  (Eimac)  7.5V 21A 750W (6T35)

 
Nov 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM Post #1,059 of 39,983
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You can get a adapter to use a 12AU7 in the 6SN7 socket or a 6CG7/6FQ7 but you might be better off selling them and use the money to buy a real 6SN7 or
one of it's variants. Better sounding then those 9 pin tubes. and you are not going to have one that beats your TSBGRP 6SN7s

 
Thanks! Ignore the PM I just sent asking you this very question. I walked into the room and sent the PM first and only now reading this thread. 
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Nov 19, 2012 at 2:30 AM Post #1,060 of 39,983
I have used the following with adapters  instead of a 6SN7:
 
2C51/5670/6385/WE396A/6CC42/7062/E180CC/6CG7
 
12AV7/12AZ7 can drive the 6AS7G well.
 
ECC40
 
I need to try the 5687, sorry Glenn I haven't yet despite your request.
 
I need to retest them all with my GR OTL 6SN7/LP2/5998, but need time.
 
Nov 19, 2012 at 8:00 AM Post #1,061 of 39,983
Up all night, rather than listening to music or watching TV, I have been sorting through tubes. Man, was this inventory of old tubes dirty! 
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 I did find a few this morning that I like. Wait, let me clarify that remark - by appearances - haven't tested or heard any of them. 
 
I found a RCA Globe UX-245 with engraved base that looks beautiful. I remember when Glenn debuted the USAF-596. I wanted it bad and contacted him, not even caring if I couldn't use it, but what was 
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 his asking price?! I was all set to simply collect that bad boy. Turns out, my amp was able to use it after all.
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The story repeats itself here - I'm going to keep this beautiful glass whether I can use it or not. I do wonder though, if the OTL can some how, some way use it...
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Sample of what I'm working with below:
 
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Nov 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM Post #1,062 of 39,983
Very nice tubes SO, let us know how you get on.
 
Nov 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM Post #1,063 of 39,983
Thanks. If, the master of thermionic valves himself suggests I could use the UX-245 glass, I'll stay up all night for impressions. And if not, I'll stay up all night anyway just to admire it. 
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Nov 19, 2012 at 9:51 AM Post #1,064 of 39,983
From what I can see it has a UX4 base, so you'll need an adapter.
 
It's a DHT tube at 2.5V you'll need two of them.
I'll let Glenn fill in the details.
 
Nov 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM Post #1,065 of 39,983
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From what I can see it has a UX4 base, so you'll need an adapter.
 
It's a DHT tube at 2.5V you'll need two of them.
I'll let Glenn fill in the details.

 
I just learned that in the last few minutes using my Goog-fu! Got some Cunningham C345's as well. So, now I got these '45' tubes and can't use 'em. Did I mention they're beautiful? 
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 I think I saw a pair of '80' tubes in the box, too. Eventually, will see what I can use and process the rest.
 

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