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Dec 3, 2017 at 6:42 PM Post #16,936 of 39,986
...That's where I am at now and Ulysses sets sail tomorrow for Sydney. You hear that @ru4music ? :L3000:

As they sometimes say in the more rural parts of America, "I hear you cluck'n big chicken!" :ksc75smile:
 
Dec 3, 2017 at 7:55 PM Post #16,937 of 39,986
Just good synergy with the 6BL7 if buying adapters the 6BL7 is the best bang for the buck.

Found some good looking Sylvania 6BL7’s and grabbed the adaptors. Excited to try it out!
 
Dec 3, 2017 at 8:15 PM Post #16,938 of 39,986
Joe, I did like C3g with 5998 or 6BL7 on Elise. However I'm always curious how those combinations will sound on a Glenn OTL amp that is specifically tuned for it, especially with 6 x 6BL7 !!!. Can you steer the ship that carries Ulysses to get here quickly?

Ha, you don't want me steering UT.....I am guessing it will get to you quicker without me steering anything.
 
Dec 3, 2017 at 11:01 PM Post #16,940 of 39,986
@UntilThen Matt

I prefer the 6BL7/67XB with my HD800 SD (undecided with GEC 6AS7 and TS 7236 though) than my 6AS7 tubes including Chathams.

On the other head, I mean hand, I prefer the 6AS7 on my HD650.

It will be interesting to know your impressions of the Ulysses!
 
Dec 4, 2017 at 3:17 PM Post #16,941 of 39,986
Arnold thanks for chiming in. In my experiences with tube amps, I appreciate tubes for their different flavours. When the amp is well executed, most tubes will sound good. They just exhibit different characteristics. That makes the OTL amp desirable because one can use so many tubes.

The only tube that I thought sounded brutal is the 6N13P that came as stock power tube in Darkvoice 336se or La Figaro 339.
 
Dec 4, 2017 at 3:28 PM Post #16,942 of 39,986
Ha, you don't want me steering UT.....I am guessing it will get to you quicker without me steering anything.

Well we will have to learn to steer because we're going on a Kon Tiki voyage at some point in time. It's what we need to do as a bucket list item.

Now for the good news. Glenn just told me he has send Ulysses off by express to reach me by ~ 12th Dec. I feel like this cartoon now.

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Dec 4, 2017 at 5:06 PM Post #16,943 of 39,986
Well we will have to learn to steer because we're going on a Kon Tiki voyage at some point in time. It's what we need to do as a bucket list item.

Now for the good news. Glenn just told me he has send Ulysses off by express to reach me by ~ 12th Dec. I feel like this cartoon now.


Yes UT, I heard that also!

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Dec 5, 2017 at 3:44 AM Post #16,944 of 39,986
Arnold thanks for chiming in. In my experiences with tube amps, I appreciate tubes for their different flavours. When the amp is well executed, most tubes will sound good. They just exhibit different characteristics. That makes the OTL amp desirable because one can use so many tubes.

The only tube that I thought sounded brutal is the 6N13P that came as stock power tube in Darkvoice 336se or La Figaro 339.
Matt

Even the unnamed Russian (I think) 6AS7 tubes provided by Glenn for free sound good already on my Darna. I could be happy with whatever tubes I have (rolled) on my Darna. The amp is that good. Rolling different tubes provide somehow different flavours and degree of refinements.

The 6AS7 tubes, IME, have wider soundstage and more energetic highs. The 6BL7/6BX7 have more intimate stage bu hit harder which is very good for the HD800SD.

I find the mids of the HD650 shine more with the 6AS7 tubes especially with my Bendix 6080, TS 7236 and of course the insanely outstanding GEC 6AS7 (mine are Haltron rebranded) brown base.

After a year and a half of rolling different tubes, my opinion of how these different tubes sound did not change.

Of course this is all IMO/E and YMMV.
 
Dec 5, 2017 at 11:35 AM Post #16,945 of 39,986
Matt

Even the unnamed Russian (I think) 6AS7 tubes provided by Glenn for free sound good already on my Darna. I could be happy with whatever tubes I have (rolled) on my Darna. The amp is that good. Rolling different tubes provide somehow different flavours and degree of refinements.

The 6AS7 tubes, IME, have wider soundstage and more energetic highs. The 6BL7/6BX7 have more intimate stage bu hit harder which is very good for the HD800SD.



I find the mids of the HD650 shine more with the 6AS7 tubes especially with my Bendix 6080, TS 7236 and of course the insanely outstanding GEC 6AS7 (mine are Haltron rebranded) brown base.

After a year and a half of rolling different tubes, my opinion of how these different tubes sound did not change.

Of course this is all IMO/E and YMMV.
Hi l69,

IMHO the tubes seem to matter less in a really good amp, perhaps because everything sounds good. Not that there aren't differences, but it seems to me that a very good amp minimizes the differences.
 
Dec 5, 2017 at 12:26 PM Post #16,946 of 39,986
Very good observations guys. That can only come from someone who have spend time with those tubes on their amps. Arnold could those Russian 6AS7 be the Svetlana 6H13C? Or are they actually 6AS7? For economical power tubes, those Svetlanas are not too shabby. I might get a quad, just to burn in the OTL amp.

These 4 are my favourite. Gec 6as7g, Bendix 6080wb, Tung Sol 5998, Gec 6080. The next tier for me would be the Chatham 6as7g, Tung Sol 7236 and Mullard 6080, Rca 6as7g.

It's almost 2 months since I sold off Euforia and gave La Figaro 339 to my son. Kind of miss listening to a tube amp but Ragnarok is sounding great to my ears. I chose Ragnarok over Violectric V281 after 3 auditions. It's all personal preference. I know many would prefer the V281 but for me, I gave the nod to Rag.
 
Dec 5, 2017 at 12:39 PM Post #16,947 of 39,986
Matt

I can't remember if my el cheapo 6AS7 tubes have brand name. I am too lazy to look for them now. :ksc75smile:

You have so many great tubes to try. This will be a hell of a ride!
 
Dec 5, 2017 at 2:45 PM Post #16,949 of 39,986
Matt

I can't remember if my el cheapo 6AS7 tubes have brand name. I am too lazy to look for them now. :ksc75smile:

You have so many great tubes to try. This will be a hell of a ride!

I think they were Svetlana 6H13 I got them for $2.50 each it was more for shipping.
Can't find them that cheep anymore just bought some and some Svetlana 5U3 rectifiers a Russian 5U4G.
Got them pretty cheep.
 
Dec 5, 2017 at 9:13 PM Post #16,950 of 39,986
2.50 each, these are cheaper than 6BL7! :beerchug:

I think Matt will buy two boxes of these for burning in... :smile_phones:
 

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