I have my DM burned in for 600 hours and a couple of months of using them, and there's still not enough bass compared to Aten.

I doubt it was. And it's even worse like that, because I remember that DM had a pretty massive bass when it was new, but when it were burned in the bass became less prominent. If this applies to BC, then that's even more dissapointing.

Hello everyone. A couple of days ago I finally managed to make some time and go to a musical store to try IMR BC 2023. Well... It took me around 5 minutes to pretty clearly decide that I don't like them and I don't need them. It's pretty much the DM, but a little better. There's still bright...

I'm sorry to bother you once again, my English is not that good, and I'm always struggle to understand metaphors, by deep bass you mean only the sound? The most conserning thing to me is if the Legato can push more air into the ear canal than DM, creating the vibration effect that I'm absolutely...

Thank you. It really helps me, because I'm always in search for bigger bass impact. I remember using Sony MDR-XB950 headphones, and those were truly the bass monsters, and now I want to get an IEM as close to that powerful lows as possible, so Legato looks very interesting to me. My DM is great...

I'm kinda confused, which one of them deliver more physical impact from bass? And I'd like to request a detailed comparison with DM if you have some time, please.

So, have I got it right, the Legato outbassed DM and BC 2023 quantitively? That's actually quite surprising, because there was no chi-fi IEM that could compete with IMR before. I've ordered Legato too. I love bass with every single bit of my soul. I just hope that Legato will handle metalcore...

I've asked him once about R2 Aten vacuum problem, and he told me back then that since they're pre-owned, if there's a problem with them, then I'll have to pay for the repair. As for DM, I received that answer about no warranty from Brandon, haven't spoke with Bob himself for a long time now...

I've got pre-owned DM, so no warranties and exchanges. If it's defective, then that's it.

I kinda can feel your dissapoinment, but my problem is different: I've got 3 IMR IEMs, and at least 2 of them are defective (first has vacuum effect on black nozzle in left earphone, second has vacuum in both earphones), and the 3rd one (Dark Matter) is questionable to me, because after New Aten...

I recommend using short eartips which won't protrude too much from the nozzle. The stock eartips are actually good in that case. Spiral Dot, Xelastec are also a good option, especially Spiral Dot IMHO. Try to avoid eartips with pivoting caps - they never worked for me, they fold when you push...

I think I found a solution for hot upper mids on my DM: I've replaced meshes on blue filters with meshes from Tiandirenhe TD06 blue filters, which have additional black screen installed under the regular metallic mesh. Now I can enjoy my DM. I find it kinda funny that my very first bought IEM...

Yeah, if the sound changes only when you adjust them, then that's okay. Your eartip position is correct. However, I don't know if there's bone conduction motors in your RAH, I'm not familiar with this model, but the basic advise from me will be that IEM shell should be touching your ear, not...

Speaking of cable, you can adjust it behind the ears by using hair dryer. Just heat them (but not for too long, around 10-15 seconds on medium heat power), then bend it to more comfortable form for you, and let it cool down in that form. I did this with every single cable I've got. About sound...

I think, speaking of levels of bass, we imagine different levels that we can describe as "entry" or something else. I started my headphone journey from Sony MDR-XB950AP, which is known for absurd quantities of bass that can make your eyeballs shake. But I thought that it's not enough, because...

I always wondered about that too. The gold filters are cutting down everything except bass, making you crank up the volume by a lot, thus creating a deafening loud bass beast, but very muddled and congested. That filter on your photo looks different from mine ones though. I have gold lower...

I don't think there's something wrong with them. The bass is pretty much there, and there's a lot of bass, but it's not that monstrous as it was on New Aten. Let's say DM have "entry basshead level" bass, and New Aten have "serious basshead level" bass. As for the upper mids - I always have been...

Great advise. I've been told yesterday that my DM weren't burned in even halfway by their previous owner. By now I think I'm somewhere close to 250-300 hours, and unfortunately still can't describe my Dark Matter as pleasant experience. They're still shouty in upper mids, shy in treble and kinda...

Yes, it's thin 2 core black cable. Well, in this context it sounds promising to me. I just can't figure out how the cable can be so stiff that I can't even put it around my ears.

So I compared IMR New Aten to IMR Dark Matter now. My feelings are mixed. New Aten sound more comfortable in upper mids, but they lack a lot of electric guitar sound. The overall sound is hollow. There's bass and there's treble, but there's not much in between. On the other hand, Dark Matter is...

Thanks, I'll try to burn them in. I've got ST35 too, very bassy eartips, but, unfortunately, annoying for me. That pivoting cap is not working with my ears, the only thing that happens to me is that I can't fit my Dark Matter deep enough, because those caps are just folding when I press...

Hello everyone. I've got pre-owned Dark Matter yesterday, and the very first thing that confuses me a little, how did they sound like when they weren't burned in? Mine sounds a bit shrilling in upper-mids, with a bit not enough treble even for a treble-sensitive person like me, so I'm thinking...

Now that's a great comparison, thank you very much. One more thing: have any of you guys experienced driver flex or suction effect on Dark Matter?

Hello everyone. I just want to make sure, what is the bassiest IMR with a new 11 mm ADLC/CNT driver? Is it Dark Matter, or something else?

The only thing that comes to my mind that can cause it is moist build up. Since the problem is not only with blue lower stage filters, the problem is when there's no way for air to escape - the vacuum appears, which muffles the sound or eliminates it completely. If that won't work, I don't know...