[Ryokan]

A bit of credit to the tuners of the 7HZ Legato. After a mixture of listening and having on burn-in these things have opened up tremendously. Definitely more than most IEMs I have. They get better with time and most reviewers probably don't burn them in. The treble is way more apparent and better now and there is lovely timbre. The bass is just darn good. Considering they are under 100 squids they are very good at this competitive price point. They really respond to some burn in. I will use them in rotation alongside my DM and BC. I have the Simgot EA500 on the way as a less bassy choice, which gets great reviews and is in fashion at the moment because of it's quality technicalities. A counterbalance to the Legato.

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LEGato, DM, BC

Run DMC

 

[DrewVz]

I will have to throw on my Pro Cable balanced out my R3pro Sabre.
It's also really nice to hear the bass isn't just a one note Fudd which makes that "Fun" listening experience just a bit more special
I'm on the hunt for a great mid-fi Tri-Brid with EST,BA & DD for around the £500-£600 range and was turn between the Yanyin Mahina,Xenns up &:Variations but i think i might hold on for a bit to see what 7HZ & Bob has in store next? I must say though im really really finding it hard not to pull the trigger on the Yanyin Mahina

Find yourself a used pair of Oriolus Szalayi. DD, planar, BA tribrid with terrific bass and sub-bass impact. Clarity and separation are outstanding. A real shocker for me, I didn't expect it to be so well-rounded. Good timbre, too. Just an outstanding IEM overall. Well worth the used-market price. I actually prefer it over my Semper.

 

[Zeppmeister]

Since Monday, my listening has been 100% Elan+. Despite brief but very impressive listening moments here and there during burn in (up to 300 hours), I found listening full time there was more treble than I originally noticed. Part of that certainly due to the tracks I was spinning. Enough to be concerning. Enough to try various filter combos.

Somewhat ironically (because they arrived with them attached and because I've never used black/black before), just in the last 20 minutes I put on the single-piece black filter (as discussed here previously, some IMR units lately are shipping with a black/black one-piece filter) and it may be the solution I've been looking for. Maybe I'll stick with this setup for another week and see how my ears feel and/or adjust.

Rush "YYZ" had all the instruments spaced out around my head, Sinatra blew in with the "Summer Wind" and sounded so smooth and velvety, and Daft Punk rattled my molars with "Doing It Right."

Speaking of which ... I've never heard that one mentioned as an example of sub-bass. Throughout the song there are two fairly deep bass throbs, with one of the pair (throughout the track) a real house shaker.

 

[Ryoidenshi]

OK, I have a well burned in pair of IMR Dark Matter and Bass Cannon 2023. I can only talk about the ones I received. I know from experience that there can be unit variability with some IMR IEMs, as my initial DM was totally different to the replacement I have now....which I . Bass on both the DM and BC mirrors what Bob says about them on his IMR Acoustics web pages. Potent.

I now have the 7Hz Legato, which after a sneak listen, I put on initial burn in for 5 hours, just to loosen up the drivers. The Legato comes with the same very large case that the Salnotes Dioko came with. Just a different color, burgundy. A great case, not for carrying the IEM, but for storing dongles, BT dongles and adapters and other various bits and pieces. I immediately put a KBear 7N OCC Copper 4.4mm cable on. The package comes with various Acoustune tips and I put the Yellow, Large AET 07 on and hooked it up to my iFi Go Blu LDAC receiver listening through Amazon HD.
The 7Hz project was a specialized project to create an in ear IEM which was reminiscent of old, large bassy, HiFi speakers. Has the project succeeded in that? Absolutely yes. The bass is the biggest I have heard on any IEM. On first listen it was a bit soft and fuzzy, but after the 5 hour burn in both the softness and fuzz have totally disappeared. A couple of YouTubers had said the mids were recessed. That is a 'fetch all' generalistic statement. For non bass-head tunes the mids are positionally correct. For tracks like Ambitionz Az A Ridah the mids have enough body and position relative to the massive bass lines and are plenty fine . On the bassy, New Model Army war rock, vocals are perfectly placed relative to drums and bass. Drum hits certainly have wallop and impact. Highs do not have any 'technical' nature but they have good clarity and reasonable extension. There is way more capability in these than the epithet 'Bass-head'. I have been to many live concerts and these remind me of those massive stage speakers and thumping bass lines like 'Enjoy the Silence' live, from Depeche Mode. Definitely a specialist IEM which are pointless for those who do not like impact bass and rumble. If you like big bass these are perfect and mids and highs are clean, clear and good. For $100 a bit of a specialist bargain, for producing a feeling like you are at a live concert/gig.

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So, have I got it right, the Legato outbassed DM and BC 2023 quantitively? That's actually quite surprising, because there was no chi-fi IEM that could compete with IMR before. I've ordered Legato too. I love bass with every single bit of my soul. I just hope that Legato will handle metalcore and other -core genres I'm listening.

 

[dharmasteve]

So, have I got it right, the Legato outbassed DM and BC 2023 quantitively? That's actually quite surprising, because there was no chi-fi IEM that could compete with IMR before. I've ordered Legato too. I love bass with every single bit of my soul. I just hope that Legato will handle metalcore and other -core genres I'm listening.

They will take about 50 hours to be their best. The bass is very strong, stronger than the IMRs, certainly in mid bass. It's hard to beat the overall sound of the DM and BC, but the Legato is well made, crafted and tuned.. and thumps. I did put my cable choice on as I prefer balanced, but the tips are acoustune and a good selection. For me the Legato is quite addictive because, where needed, the bass is probably the strongest I've heard in an IEM.

 

[fablestruck]

Anyone with experience with both high end IMR sets and 64 Audio sets? Comparisons?

 

[RunWithOne]

About half a year ago, U12t and U6t could hear from 64Audio. These are different votes (only BA), more airy and transparent. The separation is better. For Rock&Metal, however, they are not suitable for me in the long term.

I will also part with both of my IMRs. Elysium and Dark Matter are for sale. Very good condition, not even played in. Article location Germany. If you are interested, you can leave me a message.

 

[fablestruck]

About half a year ago, U12t and U6t could hear from 64Audio. These are different votes (only BA), more airy and transparent. The separation is better. For Rock&Metal, however, they are not suitable for me in the long term.

I will also part with both of my IMRs. Elysium and Dark Matter are for sale. Very good condition, not even played in. Article location Germany. If you are interested, you can leave me a message.

How come you sell your IMRs? Do you have any other IMR sets?

 

[RunWithOne]

Somehow the hobby keeps turning. I already had many IMR: R2 Red, Opus Mia, EDP+ and Splash of red.
I also own some over-ear headphones. Actually too much for 2 ears. But my ears get along better with straight sound exit tubes (e.g. Penon).

 

[fablestruck]

Somehow the hobby keeps turning. I already had many IMR: R2 Red, Opus Mia, EDP+ and Splash of red.
I also own some over-ear headphones. Actually too much for 2 ears. But my ears get along better with straight sound exit tubes (e.g. Penon).

I see. I might get interested in that Elysium...

 

[dharmasteve]

So at last the inevitable comparison between the 7HZ Legato and the IMR Bass Cannon 2023. After getting about 80 hours of both Burn-In and listening on the 7HZ Legato and hundreds on the IMR BC 2023. Which is the bass king? Presentation on both is completely different. Unexpectedly the Legato has an airier sound compared to the BC. Although bass is mildly deeper on the Legato, bass notes hit more substantially on the BC. The presentation of the BC is more polished tonally and substantially faster than the Legato, which I put down to ADLC on the BC vs Composite fourth-generation DLC diaphragm. on the Legato. Bass notes are slightly hollower on the Legato, in a good way, but that give more spaciousness added to the slower decay of the Legato. Both are very good. With the rest of the FR range the BC has more forward mids. Treble is moderately good on both, notes decidedly shinier and with better timbre on the BC. The Legato has some slower heft in drum impact but the BC has a more immediately noticeable impact. Impact of Bass and drums is in the strength of note on the BC, depth of note on the Legato. In practice the BC is slightly better tuned, but the Legato is a very different sounding and also well tuned. If I had to choose between which I prefer....... it's just about the BC 2023, more organic, more involving....BUT many may prefer the more spacious bass of the Legato, especially the very forward bass guitars and double-bass for jazz tracks which mean the bass lines become the focus of the tracks.....and makes the Legato perfect for more intimate club style jazz groups. It's a very close call. The Legato very clearly takes about 50 hours to really open up. For £90 the Legato is a bargain.

 

[Ryoidenshi]

So at last the inevitable comparison between the 7HZ Legato and the IMR Bass Cannon 2023. After getting about 80 hours of both Burn-In and listening on the 7HZ Legato and hundreds on the IMR BC 2023. Which is the bass king? Presentation on both is completely different. Unexpectedly the Legato has an airier sound compared to the BC. Although bass is mildly deeper on the Legato, bass notes hit more substantially on the BC. The presentation of the BC is more polished tonally and substantially faster than the Legato, which I put down to ADLC on the BC vs Composite fourth-generation DLC diaphragm. on the Legato. Bass notes are slightly hollower on the Legato, in a good way, but that give more spaciousness added to the slower decay of the Legato. Both are very good. With the rest of the FR range the BC has more forward mids. Treble is moderately good on both, notes decidedly shinier and with better timbre on the BC. The Legato has some slower heft in drum impact but the BC has a more immediately noticeable impact. Impact of Bass and drums in the strength of note on the BC, depth of note on the Legato. In practice the BC is slightly better tuned, but the Legato is a very different sounding and also well tuned. If I had to choose between which I prefer....... it's just about the BC 2023, more organic, more involving....BUT many may prefer the more spacious bass of the Legato, especially the very forward bass guitars and double-bass for jazz tracks. The Legato very clearly takes about 50 hours to really open up. For £90 the Legato is a bargain.

I'm kinda confused, which one of them deliver more physical impact from bass? And I'd like to request a detailed comparison with DM if you have some time, please.

 

[dharmasteve]

I'm kinda confused, which one of them deliver more physical impact from bass? And I'd like to request a detailed comparison with DM if you have some time, please.

It's hard to distinguish, because the BC has in general more sound impact, but if we just measured on the deeper bass notes the Legato. I would say that listening and not AB'ing, the Legato has a deeper bass and slightly more forward bass guitars and double-basses....but that is kind of compensated by the faster and more impact-full BC bass. I will AB the DM and Legato later this evening.

 

[Ryoidenshi]

It's hard to distinguish, because the BC has in general more sound impact, but if we just measured on the deeper bass notes the Legato. I would say that listening and not AB'ing, the Legato has a deeper bass and slightly more forward bass guitars and double-basses....but that is kind of compensated by the faster and more impact-full BC bass. I will AB the DM and Legato later this evening.

Thank you. It really helps me, because I'm always in search for bigger bass impact. I remember using Sony MDR-XB950 headphones, and those were truly the bass monsters, and now I want to get an IEM as close to that powerful lows as possible, so Legato looks very interesting to me. My DM is great too, but it's still a little too hot in upper mids sometimes, I often notice that I don't want to listen black metal on DM, because it can be really shouty. Bass is nice though, but if there's IEM with even more hard-kicking bass, then I can't resist getting my hands on it.

 

[dharmasteve]

Thank you. It really helps me, because I'm always in search for bigger bass impact. I remember using Sony MDR-XB950 headphones, and those were truly the bass monsters, and now I want to get an IEM as close to that powerful lows as possible, so Legato looks very interesting to me. My DM is great too, but it's still a little too hot in upper mids sometimes, I often notice that I don't want to listen black metal on DM, because it can be really shouty. Bass is nice though, but if there's IEM with even more hard-kicking bass, then I can't resist getting my hands on it.

Purely on the depth of bass notes the Legato has the deepest most concert like bass of them all. I think there is room for both the DM and the Legato because they handle bass differently. I am glad I got the Legato and will use it in rotation with the DM, 2023 BC, and a forthcoming IEM. I also like the bass on the 'oldie' Sony XBA N3.