ZMF Verite Open
Nov 25, 2020 at 11:14 AM Post #5,506 of 9,521
Desert Ironwood Verite is now available as part of ZMF November.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 11:55 AM Post #5,507 of 9,521
Was hoping for a Koa Verite Open this ZMF November! My wallet can breathe a little lol
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 12:30 PM Post #5,508 of 9,521
Anybody know if the B Stocks have made it out yet on the November sale? I can't locate them. I have seen some limited phones that make me seriously consider selling a kidney on the black market to be assured of getting one!
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 12:46 PM Post #5,509 of 9,521
Question for those that own or have heard both the Verite and the Aeolus. I'm super tempted on the Verite just because I adore the looks and craftsmanship, but I briefly owned the Aeolus and didn't like them at all due to the (to my ears) weird muffled tone in the midrange (stock & verite pads). Are the Verite anything like the Aeolus there? Since I can't audition them I'm just trying to figure out if it's even worth a shot or if I should just forget it since I can't really spend that much for looks alone and have them sit at a shelf as eye candy.
The Aeolus have a relaxed treble but I found the midrange very detailed and the bass amazing with the sub bass rumble. Perhaps it's the relaxed treble that you're not used to? I really like it personally. The Verite Open are everything people have been raving about. The best I can describe the sound is similar to the Focal Utopia with its frequency response and musicality, but without the treble sharpness that you sometimes get with the Utopia. Hopefully, I'll land a Verite Closed soon and can speak about them!
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 2:16 PM Post #5,510 of 9,521
Did you write a reddit post all about this about a year ago - I think I remember offering some suggestions which would still stand now.

Try a higher impedance amp that doesn't over-damp the headphones and the suede universe pads. Same would hold true for Verite if you found it muffled in any way. (and yes please burn them in)

Also make sure to check out the pad chart on our website:https://www.zmfheadphones.com/zmfpads

The vast majority of users don't find our headphones subjectively "muffled," but there certainly are combinations that will sound that way to many users when used with certain pads and gear. It all comes down to whether the extra effort of finding the gear you like most WITH the pads that suit you best is worth the effort to you or not.

Totally understand if it's not, it is one of the challenges of our brand, but most find it rewarding in the journey!

Edit: If I remember correctly you're in the EU - we have added a lot of EU dealers, and whenever pandemic permits you might be able to give our headphones a listen in a shop: https://www.zmfheadphones.com/dealersnew

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Lol, yes that was me, funny you remember. Again, I appreciate your efforts in communication. And I actually ordered the Auteur (Wenge), I've heard from so many directions that it would most likely align more with my tastes. And I will put even more effort into pad swapping this time, maybe try tubes as well. Speaking of pads I shot you an e-mail, because I have no idea what extra pads I bought, I think the selections were bugged at that moment, just said "Option 1" and "Option 2". Anyway, looking forward to it. :beerchug:
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 2:24 PM Post #5,511 of 9,521
Lol, yes that was me, funny you remember. Again, I appreciate your efforts in communication. And I actually ordered the Auteur (Wenge), I've heard from so many directions that it would most likely align more with my tastes. And I will put even more effort into pad swapping this time, maybe try tubes as well. Speaking of pads I shot you an e-mail, because I have no idea what extra pads I bought, I think the selections were bugged at that moment, just said "Option 1" and "Option 2". Anyway, looking forward to it. :beerchug:

If you like a more linear upper mids and lower treble the auteur is definitely our most neutral headphone in that area. We're on emails now - I'll make sure you get the right stuff! (likely Universe and auteur pads)
 
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Nov 25, 2020 at 2:39 PM Post #5,512 of 9,521
I don’t know if I should snatch up those closed ash or wait to see what else... anyone interested in buying my Pheasantwoods? 🥲
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:48 PM Post #5,513 of 9,521
I've been asked to compare the VO & Aeolus. Did a detailed comparison last night; comments shown in the Table below (sorry in advance for length). All the characteristics used for comparison were whatever came to mind:

Amp: Violectric V281 (balanced output)​
DAC: MHDT Labs Orchid (NOS)​
Cables: 2M new ZMF stock/VO; 2M ForzaAudioWorks Noir HCP/Aeolus (both cables are balanced)​
Pads: Perforated Lambskin Universe (stock)/VO; Peforated Universe Suede/Aeolus​
Music: ~1 dozen .wav files of various genres (blues; R&B; reggae; Afropop; funk; classical)​

SUMMARY: These headphones sound more alike than I expected in a close comparison. That great ZMF “house sound” is quite evident in both. But the differences, while not huge, do matter. Overall, the Aeolus has a somewhat more diffuse, romantic sound with a natural weight in lower registers. The VO resolves detail better, sounds ultra-clear, and has unforced accuracy. Neither is bright, edgy, or insisten. Aeolus is more “fun,” exciting, thrilling; VO is laid back yet very detailed & engrossing. Every time I hear the VO, no matter what the music genre, I think “tonal purity” (every note is clear and timbrally accurate).

Note: Verite pads push the Aeolus closer to the VO in detail & resolution (and slightly away from romance & diffuse sound). The VO always pulls ahead in resolution, but when the Aeolus has Verite pads on, resolution differences are smaller.

CONCLUSION: For me these are both must-have headphones. Their differences are meaningful to me. Each really casts a spell and makes me want to continue listening. I’ve never experienced a headphone as fun as the Aeolus; or one that presents as much detail with so little emphasis or edge as the VO (IMO the VO is a class-of-one in that regard).

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Nov 25, 2020 at 4:13 PM Post #5,514 of 9,521
I've been asked to compare the VO & Aeolus. Did a detailed comparison last night; comments shown in the Table below (sorry in advance for length). All the characteristics used for comparison were whatever came to mind:

Amp: Violectric V281 (balanced output)​
DAC: MHDT Labs Orchid (NOS)​
Cables: 2M new ZMF stock/VO; 2M ForzaAudioWorks Noir HCP/Aeolus (both cables are balanced)​
Pads: Perforated Lambskin Universe (stock)/VO; Peforated Universe Suede/Aeolus​
Music: ~1 dozen .wav files of various genres (blues; R&B; reggae; Afropop; funk; classical)​

SUMMARY: These headphones sound more alike than I expected in a close comparison. That great ZMF “house sound” is quite evident in both. But the differences, while not huge, do matter. Overall, the Aeolus has a somewhat more diffuse, romantic sound with a natural weight in lower registers. The VO resolves detail better, sounds ultra-clear, and has unforced accuracy. Neither is bright, edgy, or insisten. Aeolus is more “fun,” exciting, thrilling; VO is laid back yet very detailed & engrossing. Every time I hear the VO, no matter what the music genre, I think “tonal purity” (every note is clear and timbrally accurate).

Note: Verite pads push the Aeolus closer to the VO in detail & resolution (and slightly away from romance & diffuse sound). The VO always pulls ahead in resolution, but when the Aeolus has Verite pads on, resolution differences are smaller.

CONCLUSION: For me these are both must-have headphones. Their differences are meaningful to me. Each really casts a spell and makes me want to continue listening. I’ve never experienced a headphone as fun as the Aeolus; or one that presents as much detail with so little emphasis or edge as the VO (IMO the VO is a class-of-one in that regard).


That's a really nice comparison table! Very informative. Setting the bar high man!
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 5:42 PM Post #5,516 of 9,521
Nov 25, 2020 at 5:49 PM Post #5,517 of 9,521
I just ordered a Verite Closed B Stock and I listed the same pad selection that came with my Verite Open. What are the standard pads for the Verite Closed?
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 6:12 PM Post #5,518 of 9,521
Nov 25, 2020 at 6:14 PM Post #5,519 of 9,521
I just ordered a Verite Closed B Stock and I listed the same pad selection that came with my Verite Open. What are the standard pads for the Verite Closed?
Auteur, I believe.
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Post #5,520 of 9,521
Received the rest of my new gear this week and got it set up today. Matrix Audio mini-i Pro 3 to the Feliks Echo and my VO in Camphor Burl. Truly is a ZMF November and Thanksgiving!

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Looks like they only sent you 1/2 a bottle of whiskey. I would complain about that...
 

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