ZMF Verite Open
Aug 26, 2019 at 1:51 AM Post #2,746 of 9,521
Just curious about this... I have zero issues with ZMF bass, but if you were going to compliment the Verites with a bass centric headphone, what would you go with?

The verite has crazy bass quality and excellent extention, just EQ them and enjoy.

If you want to stay purist get a fostex 900mkii.
 
Aug 26, 2019 at 11:02 AM Post #2,747 of 9,521
Aug 26, 2019 at 2:09 PM Post #2,748 of 9,521
Just curious about this... I have zero issues with ZMF bass, but if you were going to compliment the Verites with a bass centric headphone, what would you go with?

Atticus (for closed back) or Aeolus (for open back)!

Pretty much this. If you want to go outside the ZMF realm,I highly recommend tracking down an old HD250....ridiculous amounts of bass,especially sub bass.

The verite has crazy bass quality and excellent extention, just EQ them and enjoy.

If you want to stay purist get a fostex 900mkii.

Thanks for all of the feedback! I think an Atticus may be in my future because I just love the build and sound of ZMF as well as their passion for the hobby.

With maybe a different way to ask this question, how does the Verite change during burn in?

I’m currently burning in a new Verite via listening time, which is 1-2 hours a day tops. It went from a lot of bass (kinda loose) to more focused bass and overall cohesion and liquid ness. However, if I put on bass heavy music (hip hop for example) it gives me all the bass I could ever want. With some of the acoustic recordings i listen to, the bass has deminished in favor of tonal accuracy.

Can anyone speak to the changes the drivers go through during break in?

I always love listening during break in because the changes are fascinating to me. But with that comes periods where the sound is odd and will then change soon their after. I guess I should just hook them up and at least do 100 hours of burn in while I work.
 
Aug 26, 2019 at 2:19 PM Post #2,749 of 9,521
Can anyone speak to the changes the drivers go through during break in?

Speaking only for myself,when I first received the loaner ZMF sent to me for review,the bass was sooooo huge that it was drowning out most of the other aspects of the sound. I spoke about this in review I did. I hated the Verite. I put it aside and focused on the Aeolus. In my review I mentioned it was a poor choice of tubes on my part causing the issues,but I have since changed my mind as to the cause and believe it was from a lack of burn-in. On the Verite I currently own,I can now use the offending tubes with no problem.

I can still get the Verite to thunder with specific tube rolls,to the point that I do not miss the Atticus at all,though I usually roll in tubes that provide slightly less midbass as thats my personal preference,but it still slams real hard.

IMO burn-in is real. Others might have different results with their Verite than I did,but it was worth fighting thru the growing pains as the Verite is now my favorite headphone.
 
Aug 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Post #2,750 of 9,521
Thanks for all of the feedback! I think an Atticus may be in my future because I just love the build and sound of ZMF as well as their passion for the hobby.

With maybe a different way to ask this question, how does the Verite change during burn in?

I’m currently burning in a new Verite via listening time, which is 1-2 hours a day tops. It went from a lot of bass (kinda loose) to more focused bass and overall cohesion and liquid ness. However, if I put on bass heavy music (hip hop for example) it gives me all the bass I could ever want. With some of the acoustic recordings i listen to, the bass has deminished in favor of tonal accuracy.

Can anyone speak to the changes the drivers go through during break in?

I always love listening during break in because the changes are fascinating to me. But with that comes periods where the sound is odd and will then change soon their after. I guess I should just hook them up and at least do 100 hours of burn in while I work.
I'm not an owner, but this thread is peppered with conformation, do a "burn in" search & you'll probably be overwhelmed. @zach915m had said that burn in is necessary with the Verite probably more than any other headphone he makes (I would assume this holds true for the closed version as well).
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 4:50 AM Post #2,752 of 9,521
I’m currently burning in a new Verite via listening time, which is 1-2 hours a day tops. It went from a lot of bass (kinda loose) to more focused bass and overall cohesion and liquid ness. However, if I put on bass heavy music (hip hop for example) it gives me all the bass I could ever want. With some of the acoustic recordings i listen to, the bass has deminished in favor of tonal accuracy.

I can relate to your experience. However as my Verite is still 2 weeks old, I'll refrain from commenting on the sonic experience. The Sansui au alpha 907mr has been retired and in it's place sits the ALO Audio Studio Six. Besides it sits the Glenn Super 9 OTL amplifier. Verite, LCD-3f and HD800 are plugged into both tube amps and interchange occasionally. I'm enjoying the burn-in very much. I'm in no hurry to rush to the 300 hours mark. It will come and I'll experience the change in tone on the Verite as I go.
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 5:57 AM Post #2,753 of 9,521
Time to update with another photo. Once in a while something comes along and gets me totally engrossed. Verite is one of them.

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Aug 28, 2019 at 8:26 AM Post #2,754 of 9,521
Life's little pleasure. These 2 tube amps are sensational with Verite. It's hard for me to pick a favourite. As much as I like the Sansui 907mr with the Verite, the Studio Six and Glenn's OTL amp are much better with Verite. These are not bloomy tube tone. It's tight, fast and dynamic with hard hitting bass. Sensational bass slam from these tube amps. It's so addictive listening to music with these combination.

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Aug 28, 2019 at 10:36 AM Post #2,755 of 9,521
Just received my 3rd pair of Vérité in Cocobolo with the newly-offered copper rods/grilles, and have to say I'm thrilled with how they turned out:

Verite (Cocobolo) - Cups Flat (1024).jpg


Verite (Cocobolo) - Seattle - Left (1024).jpg


So, having these set for home and my secondary rig, the next question is going to be what wood to go with for a pair of Vérité C (for which I have a review-set in Monkeypod) that I've been enjoying, and that have exhibited some interesting changes during burn-in ... which are apparent in measurements done when they first arrived and since with a bit over 100 hours on them).
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Why "3rd pair"? I originally bought the Pheasantwood set during the initial pre-order and loved them - enough to buy a 2nd pair for another location. I went with Ziricote for the 2nd set, and was so taken by the look of those that I decided I wanted to swap my Pheasantwood for Ziricote (posted here for sale/trade with that aim). Timing worked out such that the Cocobolo option just surfaced, and I liked those as much, or better than the Ziricote, so in the end I opted to order the set you see above. So, I only own two pairs ... but they're the third I've had in my hands and probably my favorite looking so far (they all sound fantastic).
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM Post #2,756 of 9,521
Just received my 3rd pair of Vérité in Cocobolo with the newly-offered copper rods/grilles, and have to say I'm thrilled with how they turned out:





So, having these set for home and my secondary rig, the next question is going to be what wood to go with for a pair of Vérité C (for which I have a review-set in Monkeypod) that I've been enjoying, and that have exhibited some interesting changes during burn-in ... which are apparent in measurements done when they first arrived and since with a bit over 100 hours on them).
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Why "3rd pair"? I originally bought the Pheasantwood set during the initial pre-order and loved them - enough to buy a 2nd pair for another location. I went with Ziricote for the 2nd set, and was so taken by the look of those that I decided I wanted to swap my Pheasantwood for Ziricote (posted here for sale/trade with that aim). Timing worked out such that the Cocobolo option just surfaced, and I liked those as much, or better than the Ziricote, so in the end I opted to order the set you see above. So, I only own two pairs ... but they're the third I've had in my hands and probably my favorite looking so far (they all sound fantastic).

Thanks from all of us for making our Verite's look less impressive. :rolling_eyes:

:wink:
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 10:49 AM Post #2,757 of 9,521
Just received my 3rd pair of Vérité in Cocobolo with the newly-offered copper rods/grilles, and have to say I'm thrilled with how they turned out:





So, having these set for home and my secondary rig, the next question is going to be what wood to go with for a pair of Vérité C (for which I have a review-set in Monkeypod) that I've been enjoying, and that have exhibited some interesting changes during burn-in ... which are apparent in measurements done when they first arrived and since with a bit over 100 hours on them).
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Why "3rd pair"? I originally bought the Pheasantwood set during the initial pre-order and loved them - enough to buy a 2nd pair for another location. I went with Ziricote for the 2nd set, and was so taken by the look of those that I decided I wanted to swap my Pheasantwood for Ziricote (posted here for sale/trade with that aim). Timing worked out such that the Cocobolo option just surfaced, and I liked those as much, or better than the Ziricote, so in the end I opted to order the set you see above. So, I only own two pairs ... but they're the third I've had in my hands and probably my favorite looking so far (they all sound fantastic).

Holy beautiful wood! Looks like Zach took Tiger Eye and molded it into headphone cups.
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM Post #2,758 of 9,521
Just received my 3rd pair of Vérité in Cocobolo with the newly-offered copper rods/grilles, and have to say I'm thrilled with how they turned out:





So, having these set for home and my secondary rig, the next question is going to be what wood to go with for a pair of Vérité C (for which I have a review-set in Monkeypod) that I've been enjoying, and that have exhibited some interesting changes during burn-in ... which are apparent in measurements done when they first arrived and since with a bit over 100 hours on them).
---

Why "3rd pair"? I originally bought the Pheasantwood set during the initial pre-order and loved them - enough to buy a 2nd pair for another location. I went with Ziricote for the 2nd set, and was so taken by the look of those that I decided I wanted to swap my Pheasantwood for Ziricote (posted here for sale/trade with that aim). Timing worked out such that the Cocobolo option just surfaced, and I liked those as much, or better than the Ziricote, so in the end I opted to order the set you see above. So, I only own two pairs ... but they're the third I've had in my hands and probably my favorite looking so far (they all sound fantastic).

Congratulations they are stunning!
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 11:37 AM Post #2,759 of 9,521
That copper looks pretty good...making me 2nd guess my choice for brass with Cocobolo. But either way can't go wrong! That's exactly the type of wood grain I'm hoping to get!
 
Aug 28, 2019 at 11:49 AM Post #2,760 of 9,521
Just received my 3rd pair of Vérité in Cocobolo with the newly-offered copper rods/grilles, and have to say I'm thrilled with how they turned out:





So, having these set for home and my secondary rig, the next question is going to be what wood to go with for a pair of Vérité C (for which I have a review-set in Monkeypod) that I've been enjoying, and that have exhibited some interesting changes during burn-in ... which are apparent in measurements done when they first arrived and since with a bit over 100 hours on them).
---

Why "3rd pair"? I originally bought the Pheasantwood set during the initial pre-order and loved them - enough to buy a 2nd pair for another location. I went with Ziricote for the 2nd set, and was so taken by the look of those that I decided I wanted to swap my Pheasantwood for Ziricote (posted here for sale/trade with that aim). Timing worked out such that the Cocobolo option just surfaced, and I liked those as much, or better than the Ziricote, so in the end I opted to order the set you see above. So, I only own two pairs ... but they're the third I've had in my hands and probably my favorite looking so far (they all sound fantastic).
WOW! That has to be hands down, the best looking ZMF, I have ever seen!
 

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