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Jul 22, 2021 at 8:40 AM Post #7,021 of 12,524
Running my Olive VC Portably via a Fiio M15 and it absolutely sings, despite it not supporting Apple Music, I still have a good portion of my Library in FLACs and my free Tidal Hi-Fi sub and at a Volume of 60 it gets pretty loud 70+ begins to hurt my ears. I don’t think the dx300 is as Powerful as the M15 Spec wise, but It should be able to drive them reasonably well, not only that it probably feel smoother due to the faster SoC.
The FiiO M15 is my main player and I will either listen to it portable, and with VC or VO you do not even need the over-ear headphone mode or high gain turned on as it gets pretty warm, or I use an USB to USB-C to output my FLACS or TIDAL/Amazon Music to a tube amp. Very versitale player. With the dual AKM AK4499EQ chips you cannot go wrong and gives A&K players a run for their money. Great pairing!

One tip: I added a clear velcro strip to the back so I could mount it to a shelf when using it next to my chair for easier access while being out of the way. It's still built like a tank though!
 
Jul 22, 2021 at 3:54 PM Post #7,022 of 12,524
Hello VC friends-

Here again to talk about wood cases. As you know, Zach and I took them down as being an option for shipping with Verites a few months back. This was our great pandemic issue, and really, we were very lucky that our supply chain issue had to do with something ancillary to our actual product.

Optimistically we have had emails with some folks saying that if wood cases become available we'll ship in a wood case if you leave a note. We have tried to do this where we could, and even were able to accommodate a few orders, but our intake of cases has come to a stand-still for the time being. After emails and phone calls and drives to have meet and greets with new wood case makers, we have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to let people know straight forwardly here, that your headphones will most likely ship in a Seahorse Case.

We are really sorry about this and tried to front load the possibility by taking it off the product listing. We have been optimistic that we could get back on track with them, but we just haven't been able to, and we're sorry for any confusion this has caused in our effort to keep them in stock.

We hope you enjoy our headphones, your headphones, and accept our sincere apologies that we are just facing a really uphill battle on this front.

As always, you are welcome to email me bevin@zmfheadphones.com I will do my utmost to answer your questions and provide support.
 
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Jul 22, 2021 at 4:06 PM Post #7,024 of 12,524
Hello VC friends-

Here again to talk about wood cases. As you know, Zach and I took them down as being an option for shipping with Verites a few months back. This was our great pandemic issue, and really, we were very lucky that our supply chain issue had to do with something ancillary to our actual product.

Optimistically we have had emails with some folks saying that if wood cases become available we'll ship in a wood case if you leave a note. We have tried to do this where we could, and even were able to accommodate a few orders, but our intake of cases has come to a stand-still for the time being. After emails and phone calls and drives to have meet and greets with new wood case makers, we have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to let people know straight forwardly here, that your headphones will most likely ship in a Seahorse Case.

We are really sorry about this and tried to front load the possibility by taking it off the product listing. We have been optimistic that we could get back on track with them, but we just haven't been able to, and we're sorry for any confusion this has caused in our effort to keep them in stock.

We hope you enjoy our headphones, your headphones, and accept our sincere apologies that we are just facing a really uphill battle on this front.

As always, you are welcome to email me bevin@zmfheadphones.com I will do my utmost to answer your questions and provide support.
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Jul 22, 2021 at 4:08 PM Post #7,025 of 12,524
Thanks for the info. That gives me a good idea what I can expect with the dx300. The dx300 is actually more powerful than the m15. The M15 maxes 800 mw in 32 ohms and the dx300 maxes 1240 mw in the 32 ohms. I could get the fully balanced amp 12 that has even more power and definitely be good. I will have a desktop setup but it's good to know I will be able to drive it on the go if I need to. Now just gotta do the hard part and save up that money! Lol
Stock dx300, under a 300ohm load only gives 168mW with the balanced out, and 34mW with single ended. The m15 does 280mW at 300ohm with balanced out, and 80mW single ended.

It’s not to say the dx300 can’t power the VC as those are just numbers, but for someone who hasn’t tried both it’s one of the only things to go off of. I would love to try one to compare it to the m15, but Apple Music support and support for amp upgrades on the dx300 makes it better in every other way IMO.
 
Jul 22, 2021 at 4:21 PM Post #7,026 of 12,524
Hello VC friends-

Here again to talk about wood cases. As you know, Zach and I took them down as being an option for shipping with Verites a few months back. This was our great pandemic issue, and really, we were very lucky that our supply chain issue had to do with something ancillary to our actual product.

Optimistically we have had emails with some folks saying that if wood cases become available we'll ship in a wood case if you leave a note. We have tried to do this where we could, and even were able to accommodate a few orders, but our intake of cases has come to a stand-still for the time being. After emails and phone calls and drives to have meet and greets with new wood case makers, we have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to let people know straight forwardly here, that your headphones will most likely ship in a Seahorse Case.

We are really sorry about this and tried to front load the possibility by taking it off the product listing. We have been optimistic that we could get back on track with them, but we just haven't been able to, and we're sorry for any confusion this has caused in our effort to keep them in stock.

We hope you enjoy our headphones, your headphones, and accept our sincere apologies that we are just facing a really uphill battle on this front.

As always, you are welcome to email me bevin@zmfheadphones.com I will do my utmost to answer your questions and provide support.https://longisland.craigslist.org/app/d/smithtown-air-conditioners/7354548202.html
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Jul 23, 2021 at 12:15 AM Post #7,027 of 12,524
So i pulled off my Auteur Lambskins and threw on the BE2s lambskin. Interesting maybe a hint more focus, quite 3D, not nearly as musical, Sound staging better than Universe lambskin. Not quite as focused or deep as the Universe, Tonally kind of a mixed bag Sub bass okay, but not nearly the punch of the Auteur or the Universe. Also slows PRAT a bit. Harder to follow the notes and harmonic structure, not as good as the Universe or the Auteur. The Auteur pad is definitely the best on PRAT, notes , harmonics and musical flow. upper mids are a bit more present but I don't really hear the upper frequencies more clearly nor is their any more air and the Auteurs actually have a hint more sparkle in the very top with out being terribly bright, this is very cable and electronics dependent I imagine. Weight and solidity and size of images is definitely Auteur, I think that has a lot to do with Harmonic structure and group delay which is again the domain of the Auteur lambskin. The Universe is better at this as well. This likely is a function of pad thickness, since that seems the most obvious difference between these pads, possibly the larger pad opening on the Auteur as well. I like the staging better than the Universe, but not nearly to the degree of the Auteur. And neither the Universe nor the BE2 really fill up the entirety of their stage the way the Auteur pad does. I find myself saying yeah this is great with either the BE2 or the Universe, but with Auteur I am tapping my feet, singing and bobbing my head and I think that says it all!

Happy listening,

jgwtriode

Awesome. Thanks!
 
Jul 23, 2021 at 12:35 AM Post #7,028 of 12,524
I was looking into exploring tube amps, but there's so many options out there. How exactly does a tube amp affect the VC's sound and why couldn't that just be accomplished through some EQ'ing?

Also, if a tube amp is being used with the VC, should it be used on its own? Or combined with a solid state amp/pre-amp?
 
Jul 23, 2021 at 2:37 AM Post #7,029 of 12,524
I was looking into exploring tube amps, but there's so many options out there. How exactly does a tube amp affect the VC's sound and why couldn't that just be accomplished through some EQ'ing?

Also, if a tube amp is being used with the VC, should it be used on its own? Or combined with a solid state amp/pre-amp?
https://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/why-tubes-sound-better.htm

As to the 2nd part of your question, it depends on the amp. If it has a volume pot there really isnt any critical reason to use a preamp.
My DAC, which is tube based, has a built in pre amp function, so i set the Glenn to an ear pleasing level and control the volume via remote on my DAC. Im double dipping into the tube goodness.

Prior to getting my Lampi I used my Glenn w/o a pre amp.
 
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Jul 23, 2021 at 4:46 AM Post #7,030 of 12,524
I was looking into exploring tube amps, but there's so many options out there. How exactly does a tube amp affect the VC's sound and why couldn't that just be accomplished through some EQ'ing?

Also, if a tube amp is being used with the VC, should it be used on its own? Or combined with a solid state amp/pre-amp?
Indeed, I too am looking into getting back into tubes for my VC but it will require some saving to allow it. System sounds great and and the custom class A high current stage in my modded oppo sounds very muscical and triode like, but I get it, real DHT triodes have a real magic to them. I imagine an ultralinear, triode strapped; as Justin Webber refers to it, can get you part of the way there, but something about real SET direct heated. I remeber listening to an ART Audio PX 4 a few years ago at a The High End show in Vegas. I was working for Talon Audio at the time. Joe Fratus from Art was kind enough to bring one by at my request just after the day was finished. At 5 Watts it was not enough to fill the room but I sat closer and listened at a more moderate volume. The Talon Peregrine X was available for me to play with. Very Similar to the Khorus in a smaller box. Still around 93db efficient. I had Bottlehead Paraglows with AVVT meshplates and Magnequest Permandur trannies that I ran on a pair of Khorus at home. Pretty nice for a DIY project amp. But these Chromed beauties were music unrestrained. Large tansformers and impressive parts. Music pure and simple, space, air, harmonic structure, PRAT, tone, density and even solid absolute integrated textured bass. The one that really has me crushing now is the ampsandsound Rockwell.

Here's to Audio Dreams,

Happy listening,

jgwtriode
 
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Jul 23, 2021 at 9:47 AM Post #7,031 of 12,524
Stock dx300, under a 300ohm load only gives 168mW with the balanced out, and 34mW with single ended. The m15 does 280mW at 300ohm with balanced out, and 80mW single ended.

It’s not to say the dx300 can’t power the VC as those are just numbers, but for someone who hasn’t tried both it’s one of the only things to go off of. I would love to try one to compare it to the m15, but Apple Music support and support for amp upgrades on the dx300 makes it better in every other way IMO.
Hugo 2 only produce 94mw at 300 Ohm and it drives Verite beautifully with full of control and rich micro detail. I wouldn't worry about the power here, but rather with the sound quality itself.
 
Jul 23, 2021 at 10:04 AM Post #7,032 of 12,524
Going to have a Verite Closed on order very soon. Shout of to my soon to be wife who buying it for me as an engagement gift. Truly shocked last night when she goes, "Why don't you pick out one of those wood headphones you are always showing me and I'll get it for you as an engagement gift" ..she really does listen when I talk. I choose a keeper. Thank you to everyone who has posted a review or impression of this headphone or amps you are using with it. Truly makes my life easier.

Anyway.. time to upgrade my setup into something bigger. Currently rocking a MCTH and a modi 2. They served me well over the years. I've come up with 3 scenarios.

1) Echo Mk2 and a bifrost. I'm also looking into Quicksilver and the MZ2.. my desk is just small so I'd have to see if either of those would fit. The MZ2 with the case could be great since my one cat is very attracted to tubes LOL.

2) Insane Schiit Stack.. Bifrost, Jot2, Lokius. This could be a ton of fun and saves space.

3) ifi Diablo. Would save me some money and I could also get out of the office and listen on my porch or sunroom or in bed. I have a feeling if I go with 1 or 2 I'll still be getting this down the road.
I have option #1 and all but Lokius of #2 :

Just had to down/side- grade to Auris Euterpe for space and considering selling the Feliks but just can't bring myself to do it. Just recently let the Jot go and can't say it was hard.


#1 is my recommendation- Solidly #1
Get yourself a good portable later (there are some nice tube portables)
 
Jul 23, 2021 at 7:35 PM Post #7,035 of 12,524
https://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/why-tubes-sound-better.htm

As to the 2nd part of your question, it depends on the amp. If it has a volume pot there really isnt any critical reason to use a preamp.
My DAC, which is tube based, has a built in pre amp function, so i set the Glenn to an ear pleasing level and control the volume via remote on my DAC. Im double dipping into the tube goodness.

Prior to getting my Lampi I used my Glenn w/o a pre amp.

I'm curious about the Schiit Freya+, apparently it has a tube preamp option so it can be combined with a solid state amp? I have the Sparkos Aries as my primary amp, which is single ended, so maybe the Saga+ might be a better fit?

Anyone tried using either one with their VC's?
 

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