[Akmola Lola]

Expecto Revival Carbo Tenore Thread haha... loving the sound of my Tenore once in a while..

 

[HungryPanda]

I forgot my portable headphones when going away this past weekend but found my Tenore's in my rucksack. Needless to say they kept me going, I forgot how nice they are.

 

[rambomhtri]

I've been waiting for 8 months for the price to drop, it was like $35 with shipping, and suddenly 8 months ago it peaked $70 and it's been slowly dropping until 2 months ago that has frozen at $45.

 

[Tr1ppy]

So after 1.5 years of solid service my Carbo Basso's have given up on me. The right hand side is cutting out and also sounds like the driver is blown.

I do listen to a lot of heavy sub-bass music such as that found in DnB, deep house and hip-hop.

Can anyone suggest an upgrade for these? I really liked the sub-bass performance as well as the fairly laid back treble so something with a similar sound sig will be great.

Thanks

 

[rambomhtri]

Wait, what?
How a driver blows?
And how do you know it has blown?

 

[Akmola Lola]

paired my carbo tenore with my newly purchased used Nokia N91.. sounded nice.. dont even need any amp.. but as usual Carbo Tenore needed extra juice as compared to my other iem.. but the bass sounded punchy and deep but not too deep.. N91 made my TK Maple and esp TK12's bass overpowered..

 

[emjen]

I am on Holiday in Japan right now and went to e earphones to try out the zero audio IEMs, after hearing all the great things.

First up was the tenore. Honestly, maybe the pair on display/Audioplay might have been crap, because it was all high notes through a tin can and no bass.

The carbo Basso was An immediate improvement; the highs didnt Hurt my ears so much and the bass was solid. I tried the mezzo after, which might have been the best one with a slight up in price, but having An open system entirely defeats the purpose of An IEM for me.

So i bought the Basso. But listening on it on the train I didnt hear any of that bass everyone seems to have. Or, that i rmbered to have in the shop, for that matter. Especially when commuting in loud areas, bass is the tone that seems to dissapear the fastest. Still a lot of details in highs and miss though. Sounds well enough.

I dont know if i believe in burn in either. If that was a scientific fact, i expect headphone producers to have their products on a 24 hour burn in period before selling. Or at least, some proof? Where is The proof?

So, hearing those trebly tenores and bass lacking bassos, could it be that zero audio doesnt make its products consistently?

FIY, i come from a Sennheiser HD25-1, and its still better. I might have been expecting too much from my first IEM thats a fraction of the price. But alle those reviews are glowing to the moon and back, so i am not sure what gives, you know?

 

[cskippy]

Honestly, that sounds like a seal issue. The Tenore is about as bassy as I would want, so something is up as I've also heard the HD-25 and they are alright but aren't much bassier.

 

[Tr1ppy]

Wait, what?
How a driver blows?
And how do you know it has blown?

I guess too much power for too long time. I do like me some bass so I'm always after iem/headphones/speakers that have good sub-bass that can be driven hard.

I knew it was blown because every time a bass note is played it doesn't sound the same as before and the same as left-hand earpiece. It sounds like the driver has popped or crackled or something. Also that earpiece is cutting out frequently; I have to keep moving the iem around to get sound from it.

The iem basshead thread has some good information about iem's that have good "headroom" to be dirven from amps. However a lot of those iems are not ideal for me as they will have an unfavourable signature (elevated or harsh treble) or they wont isolate well or have fit issues (sony mdr 7550 etc)

So I am after an iem that has a similar signature, ease of fit and decent isolation like the Basso.

I may just end up buying the Basso again lol!

 

[Akmola Lola]

I am on Holiday in Japan right now and went to e earphones to try out the zero audio IEMs, after hearing all the great things.

First up was the tenore. Honestly, maybe the pair on display/Audioplay might have been crap, because it was all high notes through a tin can and no bass.

The carbo Basso was An immediate improvement; the highs didnt Hurt my ears so much and the bass was solid. I tried the mezzo after, which might have been the best one with a slight up in price, but having An open system entirely defeats the purpose of An IEM for me.

So i bought the Basso. But listening on it on the train I didnt hear any of that bass everyone seems to have. Or, that i rmbered to have in the shop, for that matter. Especially when commuting in loud areas, bass is the tone that seems to dissapear the fastest. Still a lot of details in highs and miss though. Sounds well enough.

I dont know if i believe in burn in either. If that was a scientific fact, i expect headphone producers to have their products on a 24 hour burn in period before selling. Or at least, some proof? Where is The proof?

So, hearing those trebly tenores and bass lacking bassos, could it be that zero audio doesnt make its products consistently?

FIY, i come from a Sennheiser HD25-1, and its still better. I might have been expecting too much from my first IEM thats a fraction of the price. But alle those reviews are glowing to the moon and back, so i am not sure what gives, you know?

no bass might be seal issue.. plus tenore, as mentioned by Lurk (thread original poster), Tenore is power hungry and i second that, as i always need to pump a lil more in volume to enjoy tenore as compared to other iems, but when given enough juice it really does shine. and when commuting, sounds always leaks in if you dont have proper seal thus affects sounds youre hearing from the iem.. u enjoyed basso which is the more bass centric from the pair with proper seal you should be having much more bass, in fact even with tenore... the only product quality issue ive seen from this thread is the cable issue and stress relief, not much from the shell and driver itself..

also i dont remember tenore needing burn in nor do i really believe in one, but i do notice my FAD Heaven II bass improved after experimental burn in and TK12 sort of smoothens* as well.

 

[emjen]

Hoe does one find the perfect seal though? Do you keep trying? Many tips for many ears, but its a long ways finding whats right? As long as i am in Japan i suppose i could buy a pack of something, but i havent seen those MEE tips mentioned which are supposed to fit well.

 

[Akmola Lola]

Hoe does one find the perfect seal though? Do you keep trying? Many tips for many ears, but its a long ways finding whats right? As long as i am in Japan i suppose i could buy a pack of something, but i havent seen those MEE tips mentioned which are supposed to fit well.

i learned the term 'tiprolling' from this forum.. and thats basically it, you find the best tip for your ear and keep trying haha.. at the moment im using silicone spinfit CP100 tip, L Size for me, yours might differ, some prefer Comply foam tip, some in fact prefer the said double flange MEE tip which you can get from ebay, i did bought the MEE tip but it didnt worked for me.. but for best isolation foam tip was said to be better than silicone.. the one im using SpinFit CP100 has this 360 degree spin technology which make the round tip flexible and can twist n turn thus making the fit better..

 

[GorillasInSpace]

Hello chaps, I picked up a set of ZERO AUDIO DX-210-CB after reading though the thread on them here

I'm led to believe they are made in Japan by ZERO AUDIO, but when mine arrived they have "made in China" on them... Which immediately rang alarm bells...

Is this normal or have I landed myself with a Fake?

 

[flognarde]

Hello chaps, I picked up a set of ZERO AUDIO DX-210-CB after reading though the thread on them here

I'm led to believe they are made in Japan by ZERO AUDIO, but when mine arrived they have "made in China" on them... Which immediately rang alarm bells...

Is this normal or have I landed myself with a Fake?

Do you think Shure IEM's are made in the USA ? This should answer your question

 

[Dsnuts]

Most iems are made in China. They are designed in Japan. Made in china. I would open and enjoy