ohcrapgorillas
500+ Head-Fier
Salivating for these, but gonna wait for used pairs. Saving up for some new FX850s in the mean time.
I have made this point several times on many threads for each of the iem's and hp's I have owned. It is about a sound signature that you hear and have an aha moment. FX850 provided that for me, FidueA83 another. I hope when the Douza arrives it will be that way. While it is fair to say "for you" it is a better iem because you had that aha moment. If you look at my profile it is full of similarly priced iem's, so I have really been around the 300.00-500.00 realm. I truly hope I have that aha moment with something 100.00. I think it is noteworthy that the only one I regret selling was the Earsonic SM64. The last 2 I have tried at this price point(Douza) were the Rock-It-Sounds R50 and the Shure SE 215(which I still have for gym iem).
Have you tried the ATH IM70?
Have you tried the ATH IM70?
Yeah I didn`t mean for this to be a `Duoza VS FX850` thread; I just compared the two because I had my 850 with me at the time. The Duoza sounds so radically different from the 850, and the CKR9, that it would never be an either-or situation anyway. Like I said earlier, the Duoza is so smooth and lush it can make lower-spec gear or compressed tracks sound musical, like Youtube out of a smartphone maybe, and for this reason, at its price, makes it worth having.
Have not... and while I have had and do have some nice Iem's I kinda miss that SM64 sound.
I just did two sessions with the Duoza - first time I`d actually heard it - here in Tokyo. It`s only 90 bucks. I was comparing it to my FX850, out of my AK120ii. I did a lot of A-Bing, with 4 of the same Spinfit tips. I gotta say I was absolutely blown away by how smooth these are, creamy, like a freaking chocolate fondue, every note and beat. .. . Just not enough detail for me. I love the way the FX850 manages to bring the information, seemingly all of it, in a SE846 or HD800 way, yet serve it on a big platter of gloriously detailed bass. The Duoza has a special sound I loved from the first second. The Duoza is super smooth and relaxing with all kinds of source material. It will definitely make low-quality source material sound musical, and also all the vintage jazz that`s been released in DSD and 24bit, which often sounds thin, harsh, shrill.
I just ended up wanting a little more detail . .
Also, though I didn`t think it was a negative, the soundstage was quite small, an in-and-around-the-head sound.
I almost bought, but decided at the last minute to wait for a used one . .
Actually the DuoZa has all the details, but the fx850 is easier to drive (the difference is around 20% using media monkey) and it also has a more forward sound. They both sound amazing.
I had the FX850 for a while - and although it was in my opinion a TOTL phone - in the end I decided to sell it. I felt it was the kind of phone that performs on the very edge of its ability and it made me nervous. Don't know why but I was always having the feeling it was going to start to distort the sound any second. It never did (of course!), but I just couldn't shake of the feeling it was going to. Not very rational - I know - but that's how I felt. It was probably something about its treble that created this in me.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is if you could elaborate a bit on "forward sound". The reason I'm curious is that I felt the FX850 was a bit V-shaped (is that the same as U-shaped BTW? What I mean by V-shaped is emphasized bass and treble and recessed mids) and I sort of felt the mid-range lacking now and then, which - the way I understand it - would be the opposite of forward, no? Maybe I've misunderstood what the word forward means in this context. I would describe the EarSonics SM64 as somewhat forward - if you've heard it -, although overall balanced.
BTW, really curious about the DuoZA. I just love the Carbo Tenore and of all the phones I've owned (see my profile) I feel it has the best overall tonality. It is really outstanding! Having read what you have to say about the DuoZA I just got to have it! The only thing I worry about is if it will remind me of the FX850 in the way I tried to describe above.
Thanks!
I also agree that the 850 has recessed mids, and I never fully noticed this until an A-B session last week in Bangkok with the Dunu dn2000. I was just blown away - I could instantly see the graph in my mind showing a much much flatter FR with that Dunu. . . . It`s a fantastic peice of work. I can`t wait for whatever they come out with next.
Stop tempting me on the duoza....amazon has them not, and ebay will take weeks....where as i already spend too much this Jan...
I had the FX850 for a while - and although it was in my opinion a TOTL phone - in the end I decided to sell it. I felt it was the kind of phone that performs on the very edge of its ability and it made me nervous. Don't know why but I was always having the feeling it was going to start to distort the sound any second. It never did (of course!), but I just couldn't shake of the feeling it was going to. Not very rational - I know - but that's how I felt. It was probably something about its treble that created this in me.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is if you could elaborate a bit on "forward sound". The reason I'm curious is that I felt the FX850 was a bit V-shaped (is that the same as U-shaped BTW? What I mean by V-shaped is emphasized bass and treble and recessed mids) and I sort of felt the mid-range lacking now and then, which - the way I understand it - would be the opposite of forward, no? Maybe I've misunderstood what the word forward means in this context. I would describe the EarSonics SM64 as somewhat forward - if you've heard it -, although overall balanced.
BTW, really curious about the DuoZA. I just love the Carbo Tenore and of all the phones I've owned (see my profile) I feel it has the best overall tonality. It is really outstanding! Having read what you have to say about the DuoZA I just got to have it! The only thing I worry about is if it will remind me of the FX850 in the way I tried to describe above.
Thanks!
I`ve followed your comments about the 850 with interest and I think I know exactly what you are talking about. I can assure you the Duoza is nothing like the 850, it is not near the edge of anything. Except maybe a chocolate fondue. It was precisely this lack of on-the-edgeness that made me hesitate buying it.
I also agree that the 850 has recessed mids, and I never fully noticed this until an A-B session last week in Bangkok with the Dunu dn2000. I was just blown away - I could instantly see the graph in my mind showing a much much flatter FR with that Dunu. . . . It`s a fantastic peice of work. I can`t wait for whatever they come out with next.