ZEN by DUNU: our first model designed around next-generation driver platform ECLIPSƎ
Jan 8, 2021 at 11:47 PM Post #271 of 1,326
It is a little thing we're showing off at a big meet we're hosting in Shenzhen this weekend. All the cool kids are here.

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Not saying that I'm cool but... Will the cool kids here in the North West be able to hear this little thing as well? 😉
 
Jan 8, 2021 at 11:57 PM Post #272 of 1,326
Not saying that I'm cool but... Will the cool kids here in the North West be able to hear this little thing as well? 😉

Eventually. It's just a prototype. But it's not in the ECLIPSƎ lineage. Not the same concept.
 
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Jan 9, 2021 at 12:06 AM Post #273 of 1,326
Eventually. It's just a prototype. But it's not in the ECLIPSƎ lineage. Not the same concept.
This is exactly why it’s intriguing! Excited to see more details about it.
I love that you guys just keep experimenting. I’m guessing this is a DD/EST Hybrid or even a “Tribrid” of some sort?
Since the Luna, ZEN, and the other Dynamic line is a single DD, the SA line is BA, and the DK line is a Hybrid BA/DD.
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 12:13 AM Post #274 of 1,326
Yeah, I hope DUNU keep working on hybrids. I needs my DD bass, but I really like the resolution/detail retrieval one can get from other types of drivers for mids/treble, thus why I've been all about hybrids for 6-7 years now.. Obviously, coherence can be tricky with these implementations. That said, it sure SEEMS like the single DD Zen can meet my minimal threshold requirement for detail retrieval, just based on anecdotes in this thread at least.

Finally got a chance to hear Luna between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Terrific resolution, but the tuning just didn't sit right with me, and it was a moot point anyway as my self-imposed budget precludes a Luna purchase. I have high hopes for Zen. Just gotta see which direction I go over the next month or two.
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 12:35 AM Post #276 of 1,326
Yeah, I hope DUNU keep working on hybrids. I needs my DD bass, but I really like the resolution/detail retrieval one can get from other types of drivers for mids/treble, thus why I've been all about hybrids for 6-7 years now.. Obviously, coherence can be tricky with these implementations. That said, it sure SEEMS like the single DD Zen can meet my minimal threshold requirement for detail retrieval, just based on anecdotes in this thread at least.

Finally got a chance to hear Luna between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Terrific resolution, but the tuning just didn't sit right with me, and it was a moot point anyway as my self-imposed budget precludes a Luna purchase. I have high hopes for Zen. Just gotta see which direction I go over the next month or two.
Hybrids have been my jam the past few years. The LUNA won me over for certain genres but the ZEN has me hooked in for pretty much everything I've been listening to. I will be curious to see how all newer single DD iems do going forward.
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 12:38 AM Post #277 of 1,326
I think it is more of a fact than hype that the Zen is phenomenal. This is a benchmark for single DD IEMs.
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Those IEMs cannot compete with Zen. Zen is in another league.
Could you (or anyone) provide a brief comparison with the 17th Anniversary?
 
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Jan 9, 2021 at 1:11 AM Post #278 of 1,326
No doubt! I was just saying I am just into 2021and already digging a deep hole (I also bought Hifiman HE560 and DanClark Aeon 2 Noire over ear headphones in the last couple of weeks) when I stumble onto this thread and see the Zen is the one for 2021... :) On a serious note, how would the Zen compare to the Dunu DK-3001 Pro?
JCould ou comment
Could you (or anyone) provide a brief comparison with the 17th Anniversary?
Will get back to you guys soon regarding this. Need time to compare. Cheers. :)
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 2:45 AM Post #279 of 1,326
I love to see a world first beryllium based hybrid IEM.

There's quite a few beryllium hybrids out already actually (purported beryllium at least). Like Fiio FH3, Kinera BD005 Pro, Shozy 1.4 etc.

Then there was the BGVP DN2, which was initially purported to be a beryllium hybrid, then someone went to open it and showed it wasn't beryllium. This forced BGVP to withdraw the IEM from the market.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/audioreviews/permalink/4831960826844190/
https://www.facebook.com/BGVPaudio/photos/a.139211824331455/198455795073724/

I have no doubt DUNU when they say the LUNA is a beryllium driver set, that's the truth, but as we can see, maybe some smaller CHIFI would like to jump on the beryllium hypetrain, but perhaps some may be hoodwinking us consumers.
 
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Jan 9, 2021 at 3:10 AM Post #280 of 1,326
I've long waited for a high end well rounded DD IEM. I would like to see a review with some negatives so it's more trustworthy. We all know no IEM is perfect, but initial impressions usually paint them as such.

Often it takes awhile to get to know a new iem before its deficiencies are fully understood.
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 8:38 AM Post #281 of 1,326
There's quite a few beryllium hybrids out already actually (purported beryllium at least). Like Fiio FH3, Kinera BD005 Pro, Shozy 1.4 etc.

Then there was the BGVP DN2, which was initially purported to be a beryllium hybrid, then someone went to open it and showed it wasn't beryllium. This forced BGVP to withdraw the IEM from the market.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/audioreviews/permalink/4831960826844190/
https://www.facebook.com/BGVPaudio/photos/a.139211824331455/198455795073724/

I have no doubt DUNU when they say the LUNA is a beryllium driver set, that's the truth, but as we can see, maybe some smaller CHIFI would like to jump on the beryllium hypetrain, but perhaps some may be hoodwinking us consumers.
There is a difference between pure beryllium and beryllium coated. Dunu Luna is pure beryllium rolled foil diaphragm. The FH3, BD005 Pro & 1.4 are beryllium coated. :)
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 8:42 AM Post #282 of 1,326
There's quite a few beryllium hybrids out already actually (purported beryllium at least). Like Fiio FH3, Kinera BD005 Pro, Shozy 1.4 etc.

Then there was the BGVP DN2, which was initially purported to be a beryllium hybrid, then someone went to open it and showed it wasn't beryllium. This forced BGVP to withdraw the IEM from the market.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/audioreviews/permalink/4831960826844190/
https://www.facebook.com/BGVPaudio/photos/a.139211824331455/198455795073724/

I have no doubt DUNU when they say the LUNA is a beryllium driver set, that's the truth, but as we can see, maybe some smaller CHIFI would like to jump on the beryllium hypetrain, but perhaps some may be hoodwinking us consumers.
As mentioned above, those are beryllium plated drivers, which is quite a bit different than actual pure beryllium drivers. I believe the Dunu Luna and Final A8000 are currently the only IEMs featuring such drivers.
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Post #283 of 1,326
There is a difference between pure beryllium and beryllium coated. Dunu Luna is pure beryllium rolled foil diaphragm. The FH3, BD005 Pro & 1.4 are beryllium coated. :)
As mentioned above, those are beryllium plated drivers, which is quite a bit different than actual pure beryllium drivers. I believe the Dunu Luna and Final A8000 are currently the only IEMs featuring such drivers.

The original OP just stated "beryllium" in his original post with no mention for plated/coated versus full beryllium. Yep I'm aware those hybrids discussed above are plated/coated beryllium, not pure beryllium. Even the budget hyped single DD beryllium types like Urbanfun YBF-ISS014, Moondrop SSR/SSP, Fiio FD1/Jade Audio EA1, Tin T1 Plus are plated/coated too.

Supposedly the Periodic Audio BE and KBEAR BElieve are marketed to be full beryllium too, and they are cheaper than the Final A8000 and DUNU LUNA, but that's a big can of worms, as we will probably need someone to open the driver and send it to a lab or something to prove or disprove this.

I think a lot of budget CHIFI are riding on the beryllium hype for the year of 2020. But I suspect a lot of em may just be using them as a marketing ploy. At the end of the day, I do think implementation and tuning are more important than driver count, driver material/type.
 
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Jan 9, 2021 at 10:22 AM Post #284 of 1,326
The original OP just stated "beryllium" in his original post with no mention for plated/coated versus full beryllium. Yep I'm aware those hybrids discussed above are plated/coated beryllium, not pure beryllium. Even the budget hyped single DD beryllium types like Urbanfun YBF-ISS014, Moondrop SSR/SSP, Fiio FD1/Jade Audio EA1, Tin T1 Plus are plated/coated too.

Supposedly the Periodic Audio BE and KBEAR BElieve are marketed to be full beryllium too, and they are cheaper than the Final A8000 and DUNU LUNA, but that's a big can of worms, as we will probably need someone to open the driver and send it to a lab or something to prove or disprove this.

I think a lot of budget CHIFI are riding on the beryllium hype for the year of 2020. But I suspect a lot of em may just be using them as a marketing ploy. At the end of the day, I do think implementation and tuning are more important than driver count, driver material/type.
At the end of the day, it is all about the sound! :)
I tried a 9 drivers tribrid IEM last year and it sounds terrible. 😂
 
Jan 9, 2021 at 11:07 PM Post #285 of 1,326
I spend all morning cabling swapping. I tried OC studio Aux, OC studio Montaba, dita truth, Sony Kimber and I ended up coming back to the stock cable.

They all changed the sound too much. I'm curious to know how Dunu Noble and Blanche will pair with Zen.
 

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