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XDuoo X3 DSD 24Bit / 192KHz CS4398 Chip Lossless Music Player
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jeromeaparis
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Hi, in my previous post, I showed my slight mod on the X3: the add of a 22nF Wima MKS // with the Chemical cap
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/x...ss-music-player.782912/page-294#post_13408828
After about 50h burrnin, the sound is stable, with clear Improvement on trebles, voices, bass, instrument separation.
Then, recently, I swaped the 22nF Wima MKS (polyester) for a 22nF Wima MKP (polypropylene)
MKP wima (black lettering) are still quicker then MKS (silver or white lettering)
and this is a major improvement from previous. I guess that the modded X3 then equals more expensive DAPs
There seems to be less bass, but when there are bass in the record, it delivers it with power, punch and clarity that were not here before.
I guess this improves the action of the opamps but also the DAC, cause instruments analysis of details seems more effective. My preffered chinese earphone with this mod is the blue KZ ZS2 (dual dynamic drive) that has a natural sound, enough trebles, very good bass.
The dip socket allows the easy swap of the cap. Size = 5mm between legs
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/x...ss-music-player.782912/page-294#post_13408828
After about 50h burrnin, the sound is stable, with clear Improvement on trebles, voices, bass, instrument separation.
Then, recently, I swaped the 22nF Wima MKS (polyester) for a 22nF Wima MKP (polypropylene)
MKP wima (black lettering) are still quicker then MKS (silver or white lettering)
and this is a major improvement from previous. I guess that the modded X3 then equals more expensive DAPs
There seems to be less bass, but when there are bass in the record, it delivers it with power, punch and clarity that were not here before.
I guess this improves the action of the opamps but also the DAC, cause instruments analysis of details seems more effective. My preffered chinese earphone with this mod is the blue KZ ZS2 (dual dynamic drive) that has a natural sound, enough trebles, very good bass.
The dip socket allows the easy swap of the cap. Size = 5mm between legs
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Jojaonthebeat
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Which is better in terms of making a wide soundstage and improving the sound quality? This or the Fiio X1?
Jojaonthebeat
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Is this a big upgrade for my Fiio m3 player? Which is better in making a wider soundstage and improving sound quality, this or Fiio X1? Planning to pair this with either Havi B3 Pro 1 or Fiio EX1 in-ear headset.
DjBobby
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X3 has much bigger soundstage. But you have also to consider other things, like lack of gapless and no cover art graphs, which might make the transition to X3 not so smooth.Is this a big upgrade for my Fiio m3 player? Which is better in making a wider soundstage and improving sound quality, this or Fiio X1? Planning to pair this with either Havi B3 Pro 1 or Fiio EX1 in-ear headset.
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X3 has much bigger soundstage. But you have also to consider other things, like lack of gapless and no cover art graphs, which might make the transition to X3 not so smooth.
Rockboxed X3 works like a charm and has gapless
I remember that I did not like the highs in M3, "sandy" sound. X3 feels more digital, but clearer in reproducing higher frequencies.
NymPHONOmaniac
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I compare right now X2 and X3.....2 different world!! Level of details with X3 is from another league and X2 feel very dark and warm, no wonder why I gave the X2 to my brother! X3 still is the best dap under 100$ IMO
NymPHONOmaniac
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Wow nice idea,So you just change the cap or make other mods? This look very interesting! Can you tell me were to find this cap? Any way to change amp section too?Hi, in my previous post, I showed my slight mod on the X3: the add of a 22nF Wima MKS // with the Chemical cap
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/x...ss-music-player.782912/page-294#post_13408828
After about 50h burrnin, the sound is stable, with clear Improvement on trebles, voices, bass, instrument separation.
Then, recently, I swaped the 22nF Wima MKS (polyester) for a 22nF Wima MKP (polypropylene)
MKP wima (black lettering) are still quicker then MKS (silver or white lettering)
and this is a major improvement from previous. I guess that the modded X3 then equals more expensive DAPs
There seems to be less bass, but when there are bass in the record, it delivers it with power, punch and clarity that were not here before.
I guess this improves the action of the opamps but also the DAC, cause instruments analysis of details seems more effective. My preffered chinese earphone with this mod is the blue KZ ZS2 (dual dynamic drive) that has a natural sound, enough trebles, very good bass.
The dip socket allows the easy swap of the cap. Size = 5mm between legs
lotech
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Well I've messed up my X3.
I carry it in my back pocket and forgot I had it there, with a heavy cable with straight connector is sort of levered the headphone jack.
I've lost sound in left channel when plug is fully engaged. Both channels present when I pull the headphone jack out about 1/8 inch but it doesn't stay that way.
I'm considering opening the X3 up to see if I can either fix it or replace the jack. Anyone got any suggestions?
I've owned it for 1 1/2 years and while out of warranty (that's a joke right?) wouldn't expect Xduoo to ever respond.
I carry it in my back pocket and forgot I had it there, with a heavy cable with straight connector is sort of levered the headphone jack.
I've lost sound in left channel when plug is fully engaged. Both channels present when I pull the headphone jack out about 1/8 inch but it doesn't stay that way.
I'm considering opening the X3 up to see if I can either fix it or replace the jack. Anyone got any suggestions?
I've owned it for 1 1/2 years and while out of warranty (that's a joke right?) wouldn't expect Xduoo to ever respond.
Slater
Headphoneus Supremus
Well I've messed up my X3.
I carry it in my back pocket and forgot I had it there, with a heavy cable with straight connector is sort of levered the headphone jack.
I've lost sound in left channel when plug is fully engaged. Both channels present when I pull the headphone jack out about 1/8 inch but it doesn't stay that way.
I'm considering opening the X3 up to see if I can either fix it or replace the jack. Anyone got any suggestions?
I've owned it for 1 1/2 years and while out of warranty (that's a joke right?) wouldn't expect Xduoo to ever respond.
If you have good soldering skills you can replace the jack. Or it's possible one of the legs of the jack pulled away from the solder pads by the torquing action - in that case, it could be easily resoldered.
If you take the board out to evaluate and/or repair, be extremely careful of the small buttons on the sides of the board (for volume, lock, etc). They are easily snapped off.
jeromeaparis
100+ Head-Fier
Well, you can find the red Wima 22nF MKP on ebay.Wow nice idea,So you just change the cap or make other mods? This look very interesting! Can you tell me were to find this cap? Any way to change amp section too?
I just add a film cap in // to the stock chemical cap. I install a dip socket so I can swap the Wimas for testing.
Only If you are ready, and have a very thin point thermostat soldering iron, I can send to you one Wima mkp 0.022uF cap for free...
My opinion is that the DAC and opamps, even the phone amp ops are excellent, there is nothing to change !
(if there would be more space, I would change the chemical for an Elna Silmic)
Slater
Headphoneus Supremus
Well, you can find the red Wima 22nF MKP on ebay.
I just add a film cap in // to the stock chemical cap. I install a dip socket so I can swap the Wimas for testing.
Only If you are ready, and have a very thin point thermostat soldering iron, I can send to you one Wima mkp 0.022uF cap for free...
My opinion is that the DAC and opamps, even the phone amp ops are excellent, there is nothing to change !
(if there would be more space, I would change the chemical for an Elna Silmic)
I've never heard any opamp that I liked better than the MUSES02 (not in the X3 though - I'm talking about opamps in general). Just have to make sure you get a genuine one, because it is commonly counterfeited.
skajohyros
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Well I've messed up my X3.
I carry it in my back pocket and forgot I had it there, with a heavy cable with straight connector is sort of levered the headphone jack.
I've lost sound in left channel when plug is fully engaged. Both channels present when I pull the headphone jack out about 1/8 inch but it doesn't stay that way.
I'm considering opening the X3 up to see if I can either fix it or replace the jack. Anyone got any suggestions?
I've owned it for 1 1/2 years and while out of warranty (that's a joke right?) wouldn't expect Xduoo to ever respond.
Open it being careful not to strip the screws. Solder if you have the tools and skills. Otherwise fold some paper and wedge it between jack and back plate like I did and reassemble.
NymPHONOmaniac
Headphoneus Supremus
Well, you can find the red Wima 22nF MKP on ebay.
I just add a film cap in // to the stock chemical cap. I install a dip socket so I can swap the Wimas for testing.
Only If you are ready, and have a very thin point thermostat soldering iron, I can send to you one Wima mkp 0.022uF cap for free...
My opinion is that the DAC and opamps, even the phone amp ops are excellent, there is nothing to change !
(if there would be more space, I would change the chemical for an Elna Silmic)
Whe i'm ready I will PM you for the cap....but before I really must take some basic electronic course and find my thermostat soldering lost somewhere in my ex girlfriend home.....gulp.
Big thank another time and I will not forget this mod for sure!
I guess it do not affect line out sound?
Only thing that afraid me is the burn in for cap and instability in sound that can occur...if I read well about you CAP-tivating modding journey.
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