Woo WA2 Tube Rolling Recommendations
Nov 2, 2015 at 4:11 PM Post #601 of 1,192
  Silly rabbit! 6SN7GT are not rectifiers! They are dual triodes! They would replace the 6922/E88CC tubes. And the Tung-Sol 5998 are garbage! I own those, the GEC 6080 & 6AS7G and the WE 421A. The Tung-Sol are the worst of the bunch! The WE 421A are the best hands down. Best bass, best soundstage, best detail, etc etc. The 6n23p are russian crap. They are basically their version of the 69822. A very poor imitation actually. I would never use that garbage in my amp. Russians make JUNK! Just today one of their jetliners fell from the sky. Enough said. It probably had a few of those tubes running its flight computers LOL!

 
Oh, the irony, these Russian tubes have you seeing "RED". 
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(cheers comrade!)
 
Nov 3, 2015 at 7:16 PM Post #602 of 1,192
  Well if he wants truly serious bass than he needs to buy 6SN7 to 6922 converters and a pair of KENRAD Staggered Plate 6SN7GT. You can get the converters directly from WOO ($40 each + shipping).


Well I ordered the adapter from ebay

Would any banded 6SN7GT do or does it specifically have to be Kenrad ones & Staggered Plate ones at that?
Would I get a noticeable dropped off from other branded 6SN7GT tubes?
 
Nov 4, 2015 at 4:28 PM Post #603 of 1,192
FYI the stock tubes I got with the WA2 were:
 
  1. 2x RCA  United  6080WA
  2. 2x International C Servicemaster 6922 E88CC
  3. 2x Elekronska Industrija Nis EZ80
 
 
I plan on buying some Tung-Sol 5998 to replace the RCA power tubes, until I can save enough to get the Western Electric variations. I also bought the adapter to use other tubes, but it's probably going to take a month to arrive from China. So 5998 for now. Looks like it's the best of the bunch without going over $300.
But what about the other 2 tubes, EZ80 & E88CC (which one is the rectifier)? What's good to replace them with or are they fine as they are?
 
 
I'm looking to either get a huge improvement in soundstage or a huge improvement in bass/impact.
Getting a noticeable wow factor in either is what I want.
 
Getting a huge improvement in both would be a bonus, but from my time in head-fi, I know that is just a dream.
 
Nov 4, 2015 at 6:19 PM Post #604 of 1,192
FYI the stock tubes I got with the WA2 were:

  • 2x RCA  United  6080WA
  • 2x International C Servicemaster 6922 E88CC
  • 2x Elekronska Industrija Nis EZ80


I plan on buying some Tung-Sol 5998 to replace the RCA power tubes, until I can save enough to get the Western Electric variations. I also bought the adapter to use other tubes, but it's probably going to take a month to arrive from China. So 5998 for now. Looks like it's the best of the bunch without going over $300.
But what about the other 2 tubes, EZ80 & E88CC (which one is the rectifier)? What's good to replace them with or are they fine as they are?


I'm looking to either get a huge improvement in soundstage or a huge improvement in bass/impact.

Getting a noticeable wow factor in either is what I want.

Getting a huge improvement in both would be a bonus, but from my time in head-fi, I know that is just a dream.
Google and have a look at "joes tube lore". That worked for me. Also Brent Jesse website has great info. I bought some 6922 pq Amperex and I'm enjoying good detail on those and a sound on the warmer side. I believe bugle boys are warmer but less detail I've read
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 2:01 AM Post #605 of 1,192
Google and have a look at "joes tube lore". That worked for me. Also Brent Jesse website has great info. I bought some 6922 pq Amperex and I'm enjoying good detail on those and a sound on the warmer side. I believe bugle boys are warmer but less detail I've read

 
Sure enough, the only tube Joe doesn't review is the 5998's.
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 3:33 AM Post #606 of 1,192
Sure enough, the only tube Joe doesn't review is the 5998's.
I know :slight_frown: That's what this place is for I guess. I looking for comparisons between the gec6as7g and the others.
 
Nov 18, 2015 at 10:04 PM Post #607 of 1,192
  LOL jhl........
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  Mini WA22....I've had my WA2 since 2009 and was communicating with Jack on the WA22 before it came out...He confirmed the 6SN7 driver but I already had a balanced setup so I passed it up.
 
There is just soooo many tubes to try in the WA2. The 6922 is an awesome tube and I have tried many from the globes to the reflektors.  I also have a hybrid that uses 6922/6DJ8 so I have tried a lot.
 
It's time to go to the dark side.  The 6922 is not the end all be all.....I am an adapter freak and have tried many tubes in many different amps.  The 6SN7 takes the WA2 to another level as well as other off the wall tubes.  You should check out the DV336SE thread (Part II) I started over seven years ago.  We cross reference tubes with adapters with the Elise and WA2 and DV.  If it works with my 6CG7 adapter, it will work in the WA2.
 
This setup I'm listening to now will rival any 6922.
 
JAN-CRC 6AS7G power tubes and JAN-CHS 6SN7GT VT-231 drivers.
 
Come to the dark side guys.......A big wide world out there...Give the 6922 a rest.  I have tried many driver tubes in the WA2.....My TS 6BK7B will put the '75 reflektors in timeout in a corner with nowhere to run.....I paid 12 beans shipped for them..Time to expand the horizons fellas!!!!!
 
Cheers!!!
 
 

 
 
 
 

About your TungSol 6BK7B do you need an adapter for those tubes to use as drivers in a WA2
 
Nov 18, 2015 at 10:17 PM Post #608 of 1,192
 
  LOL jhl........
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  Mini WA22....I've had my WA2 since 2009 and was communicating with Jack on the WA22 before it came out...He confirmed the 6SN7 driver but I already had a balanced setup so I passed it up.
 
There is just soooo many tubes to try in the WA2. The 6922 is an awesome tube and I have tried many from the globes to the reflektors.  I also have a hybrid that uses 6922/6DJ8 so I have tried a lot.
 
It's time to go to the dark side.  The 6922 is not the end all be all.....I am an adapter freak and have tried many tubes in many different amps.  The 6SN7 takes the WA2 to another level as well as other off the wall tubes.  You should check out the DV336SE thread (Part II) I started over seven years ago.  We cross reference tubes with adapters with the Elise and WA2 and DV.  If it works with my 6CG7 adapter, it will work in the WA2.
 
This setup I'm listening to now will rival any 6922.
 
JAN-CRC 6AS7G power tubes and JAN-CHS 6SN7GT VT-231 drivers.
 
Come to the dark side guys.......A big wide world out there...Give the 6922 a rest.  I have tried many driver tubes in the WA2.....My TS 6BK7B will put the '75 reflektors in timeout in a corner with nowhere to run.....I paid 12 beans shipped for them..Time to expand the horizons fellas!!!!!
 
Cheers!!!
 
 

 
 
 
 

About your TungSol 6BK7B do you need an adapter for those tubes to use as drivers in a WA2 looks like there plug &play

 
Nov 21, 2015 at 12:48 AM Post #609 of 1,192
  About your TungSol 6BK7B do you need an adapter for those tubes to use as drivers in a WA2


  X2 - I just ordered some 6SN7 to 6922 adapters;  time for a change-up!  Come 'on @HeatFan12 , give us your best recommendations! 
 
Nov 21, 2015 at 8:57 AM Post #611 of 1,192
About the 6BK7B tube it is same pinout as 6DJ8 tubes so no adapters needed in WA2 dont know how they sound they are really cheap, about $5.00 each in general  .
 
Nov 21, 2015 at 8:41 PM Post #612 of 1,192
Just because they are the same pinout DOES NOT MEAN they are meant to be used in the WA2! These tubes specifically are used in FM tuner stages (they are RF tubes). They are not meant for audio driver stage tubes! You really think a $5 in a $1200 amp is going to sound that good?
 
Nov 22, 2015 at 2:18 PM Post #613 of 1,192
  You mean 6922 to 6SN7 adapters? What headphones are you using and what type of sound are you after?


No, 6SN7 to 6922 (6sn7 tube to a 9 pin 6922 socket)!
 
HD800/ Beyer T-1/ HD650; sound wise: good extension top to bottom, great sound stage and imaging, transparent etc. (i.e. I want it all.)
 
Nov 22, 2015 at 2:31 PM Post #614 of 1,192
  Just because they are the same pinout DOES NOT MEAN they are meant to be used in the WA2! These tubes specifically are used in FM tuner stages (they are RF tubes). They are not meant for audio driver stage tubes! You really think a $5 in a $1200 amp is going to sound that good?

Yes it can, sometimes better!
 
This is not always good advise regarding tubes!  For example, the 6as7G and 5998 types where primarily designed as voltage regulation tubes as opposed to audio amplifier tubes etc.
 
The 6bk7b comes recommended for the WA2 from a fellow head-fi'er and @MIKELAP is just trying to figure out if it's a direct fit.
 

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