Women become attracted to nerdy guys as they get older

Sep 8, 2006 at 7:27 PM Post #62 of 95
I suggest you guys to care less about what girls want and how to fit it... I've come to the conclusion that girls like men who like themselves and have a good self-steem.

I'm from Brazil and we're well known of the hotest girls around (mostly due to miscegenation) and you guys have no idea how many ugly guys date those Adriana Lima's style of girls. Two reasons:
1) Some girls are so unbelievable hot that everyone is afraid to even come over and start a light conversation (many hot women have low self steem, you can check that by watching some girls taking 3 hours making up / dressing just to go out shopping lol). So the ugly dude having nothing to lose, hooks up with the girl.
2) Even being ugly as ****, those guys feel well about themselves and that gives confidence to girls.

I'm so sure that all you guys here could date a wonderful girl only if you had balls to do so.
 
Sep 8, 2006 at 7:41 PM Post #63 of 95
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Originally Posted by joca
I suggest you guys to care less about what girls want and how to fit it... I've come to the conclusion that girls like men who like themselves and have a good self-steem.

I'm from Brazil and we're well known of the hotest girls around (mostly due to miscegenation) and you guys have no idea how many ugly guys date those Adriana Lima's style of girls. Two reasons:
1) Some girls are so unbelievable hot that everyone is afraid to even come over and start a light conversation (many hot women have low self steem, you can check that by watching some girls taking 3 hours making up / dressing just to go out shopping lol). So the ugly dude having nothing to lose, hooks up with the girl.
2) Even being ugly as ****, those guys feel well about themselves and that gives confidence to girls.

I'm so sure that all you guys here could date a wonderful girl only if you had balls to do so.



I agree Big Cojones are needed. Of course if did it my wife would kill me.
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Not that I would of course.
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Sep 8, 2006 at 9:59 PM Post #64 of 95
Have we defined 'nerd' yet? My mind runs to the definition of a person who is socially inept yet academically apt. Nevertheless, within the realm of 'nerd', they range from arrogant to nice, funny to boring. Personally, I believe that when a person is humble and friendly, people are naturally drawn to them. Take my little brother for instance. He doesn't go out girl hunting, but the girls just come to him because he knows how to treat humans like people. He talks to them just like they are any other person. Plus, there is no ego to get past with him, so the conversation develops naturally and comfortably.

I think there is a misconception that hot girls know they are hot and use it to their advantage. Like Joca said, you just have to have the courage to get past that and talk to them. They're regular people with regular people needs; they're just a little easier on the eyes. I think the problem comes when guys treat hot girls like idols. That's where the fussy part begins.

Really, with girls (and just people and general), you have to be forward, the more forward the better. Of course, that doesn't mean blunt or tactless. You have to just completely throw yourself into the conversation and then let the talking continue without stopping to gawk at how great they look or always complimenting them. They aren't looking to see how great they look. To them, if this person wants to talk, then great, I'll talk too. If you sat on the bus beside a stranger and just started a conversation like you would with a close family member, they would respond and you would both have a really good time. You could start with "So, did you watch that Superman 5 movie? I heard it sucked. I prefer Christopher Reeve. He's a stud." Then you could just go with the flow. That's why RVers have such good relationships. You meet a stranger out in the RV park or at a gas station, you talk, and you have a great time with them.

Really, all great conversations are when you get past both of your masks. Why not start off on that note?
 
Sep 8, 2006 at 11:08 PM Post #66 of 95
It's true. It's easier to be with someone without that kind of baggage. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not one of the women any of you guys would call hot. However, I never had a problem filling my dance card, and it's because my stock has the potential to go up. I'm not unique here, everyone is in with a shot, you just can't expect your date or potential interest to hold all your baggage for you, or come and rescue you.

And you can't let someone use you because you believe you have to take what you can get, nor can you use someone just to have them around, just to say you have someone. No, it's not about games, it's just about being together and being comfortable. You have to be able to do that with yourself first though, and then you meet someone it should just happen naturally.

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Originally Posted by joca
I suggest you guys to care less about what girls want and how to fit it... I've come to the conclusion that girls like men who like themselves and have a good self-steem.

I'm from Brazil and we're well known of the hotest girls around (mostly due to miscegenation) and you guys have no idea how many ugly guys date those Adriana Lima's style of girls. Two reasons:
1) Some girls are so unbelievable hot that everyone is afraid to even come over and start a light conversation (many hot women have low self steem, you can check that by watching some girls taking 3 hours making up / dressing just to go out shopping lol). So the ugly dude having nothing to lose, hooks up with the girl.
2) Even being ugly as ****, those guys feel well about themselves and that gives confidence to girls.

I'm so sure that all you guys here could date a wonderful girl only if you had balls to do so.



 
Sep 9, 2006 at 5:55 AM Post #67 of 95
I didn't read the whole thread but here's my take as a former weirdo/eccentric. I was really goofy, dressing intentionally idiotic as a way of establishing my independence early in high school. My weirdness eventually develped into a very unique sense of taste that has managed to set me apart from 99% of guys out there.

1. Women like confidence. Even if it's a quiet, behind the scenes confidence. Some girls go for the opposite, such as the depressed emo kid, but for the most part that's a passing fad. When the girl dumps the sissy a few months later he'll become even more depressed and emo that she left him for a real man. Maybe he'll even write a song about it and play at Bamboozle
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2. Women like success. Doesn't have to wealth per-se, even an artist or musician who is broke can get plenty of women because of their success in their respective fields. It's more about being on top (alpha male) than being rich. There are rich fools out there who can bag a gold-digger, but arent exactly sexy. Bill Gates for example can HAVE women, but I don't know of any women who dream of him as they, *ahem*, tend to themselves
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3. Women appreciate a man who looks good. Doesn't mean 6-pack abs and Armani suits with Prada loafers, but a guy who has some sense of style has a huge leg up. Even if it's dirty, grungy style (Kurt Kobain was the fantasy of MILLIONS of women) or nasty ghetto (most mainstream rappers) as long as you have some type of 'look' it helps.

--Illah
 
Sep 9, 2006 at 10:07 AM Post #68 of 95
1 - Isn't that true of men as well? Carrying someone's baggage can get tiring. And old, quick. I personally prefer the quiet man. It seems to be the type I mostly have ended up with.

2 - Ehhh, so and so. I prefer to call it "women prefer integrity." It's not monetary success or critical aclaim, it's that you do your best at what you do.

3 - I'll quote a male friend of mine here because I think he hit it on the head. "Women don't see our appearence, they see potential."
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Originally Posted by Illah
1. Women like confidence. Even if it's a quiet, behind the scenes confidence. Some girls go for the opposite, such as the depressed emo kid, but for the most part that's a passing fad. When the girl dumps the sissy a few months later he'll become even more depressed and emo that she left him for a real man. Maybe he'll even write a song about it and play at Bamboozle
biggrin.gif


2. Women like success. Doesn't have to wealth per-se, even an artist or musician who is broke can get plenty of women because of their success in their respective fields. It's more about being on top (alpha male) than being rich. There are rich fools out there who can bag a gold-digger, but arent exactly sexy. Bill Gates for example can HAVE women, but I don't know of any women who dream of him.

3. Women appreciate a man who looks good. Doesn't mean 6-pack abs and Armani suits with Prada loafers, but a guy who has some sense of style has a huge leg up. Even if it's dirty, grungy style (Kurt Kobain was the fantasy of MILLIONS of women) or nasty ghetto (most mainstream rappers) as long as you have some type of 'look' it helps.

--Illah



 
Sep 11, 2006 at 11:34 PM Post #70 of 95
[size=xx-large]MY EYES!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH![/size]

*dies*
 
Sep 12, 2006 at 8:34 AM Post #71 of 95
Where's the eye bleach?

Anyhow, there's not much point in generalizing what women want. They're all different and you never know who you'll hit it off with. It's personality.

Just get out there and meet as many as you can. Every girlfriend I've had was as a result of an initial long conversation. When I find someone I just keep talking to, I ask her out. It always works, but you can't tell by looking. So chat up as many as you can and see what happens. Also, an "average" woman who is really into you is a hell of a lot better than a "hot" one who doesn't care so much.
 
Sep 12, 2006 at 10:36 PM Post #73 of 95
Wow lot of (relatively) old people here who are still.. single.. Im 19, and already panic because i havent even got a kiss yet or something and Im literally getting white hairs about this... I always had this goal of like having a gf in middle school... the it was pushed back to HS.. now im in college and i guess Ill try to like.. get with someone before next month when I turn 20...

How is it for you guys? like I always believed that when I turn 25 ill become some prowler/lurker or maniac or god forbid rapist or something... How do you ~50 year olds hold out? Im certain not even a carbon-fiber chassis DHT tube amp and some esoteric earspeakers can take your mind off this???

I am friends with this girl throughout HS, and like see she would go after these sporty guys who are also smart..They would talk and stuff and we would all go out and play tennis or shoot pool, and she would be all affectionate call him by his full name and everything and he would not really talk to her that much. Shes so nice and everything, but is always looking at these "cool" guys.. we used to talk all the time, and freshman year in college i would talk to her till like sunrise.. i asked her out and everything, and i really dont know any other girls well and well it was a semi-blunt rejection and destroyed me...I got "suspeneded" for a year and thats where I stand now.. taking classes local until I get back. Right now shes with some dude in her school who has a nice suv.. She just doesnt seem like that kind of person, but it must be true they are attracted to beefy people with cars and stuff...My cholesteral is now 220+ from all this stress of being out of school and now i dont even deserve the rank of nerd...just loser

I guess im kind of skinny, but do women really hate skinny people? im no skeleton but at 5'8 being 130lbs must be some kind of disadvantage...


I thought head-fi would be a nice respite from all this trauma, but it seems being a member will doom me...wallet atrophy as a side effect..

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Being asian too.. ultimate disadvantage... even asian women hate us... they go oh i like (another race) better and hotter blah blah i hate asian blah blah... hypocrites.. Ill never be those asian kids dying their hair blond and trying to be white or gangster... they think they are ganster with their hats and chains and racecars walking around while they are actually well off and not at all living in the projects. They they get the asian gangster girls.. the asian fobs get the fobs.. the regular ones prefer caucasians...
 
Sep 13, 2006 at 12:37 AM Post #74 of 95
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Originally Posted by hYdrociTy
Wow lot of (relatively) old people here who are still.. single.. Im 19, and already panic because i havent even got a kiss yet or something and Im literally getting white hairs about this... I always had this goal of like having a gf in middle school... the it was pushed back to HS.. now im in college and i guess Ill try to like.. get with someone before next month when I turn 20...

How is it for you guys? like I always believed that when I turn 25 ill become some prowler/lurker or maniac or god forbid rapist or something... How do you ~50 year olds hold out? Im certain not even a carbon-fiber chassis DHT tube amp and some esoteric earspeakers can take your mind off this???

I am friends with this girl throughout HS, and like see she would go after these sporty guys who are also smart..They would talk and stuff and we would all go out and play tennis or shoot pool, and she would be all affectionate call him by his full name and everything and he would not really talk to her that much. Shes so nice and everything, but is always looking at these "cool" guys.. we used to talk all the time, and freshman year in college i would talk to her till like sunrise.. i asked her out and everything, and i really dont know any other girls well and well it was a semi-blunt rejection and destroyed me...I got "suspeneded" for a year and thats where I stand now.. taking classes local until I get back. Right now shes with some dude in her school who has a nice suv.. She just doesnt seem like that kind of person, but it must be true they are attracted to beefy people with cars and stuff...My cholesteral is now 220+ from all this stress of being out of school and now i dont even deserve the rank of nerd...just loser

I guess im kind of skinny, but do women really hate skinny people? im no skeleton but at 5'8 being 130lbs must be some kind of disadvantage...


I thought head-fi would be a nice respite from all this trauma, but it seems being a member will doom me...wallet atrophy as a side effect..

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Being asian too.. ultimate disadvantage... even asian women hate us... they go oh i like (another race) better and hotter blah blah i hate asian blah blah... hypocrites.. Ill never be those asian kids dying their hair blond and trying to be white or gangster... they think they are ganster with their hats and chains and racecars walking around while they are actually well off and not at all living in the projects. They they get the asian gangster girls.. the asian fobs get the fobs.. the regular ones prefer caucasians...



I feel your pain. I too took a very long time before I kissed a girl. And it does suck being a virgin when all your friends are getting laid. I just ended up feeling like a deprived weirdo. At times, it got depressing and lonely. In some ways, being the wall flower in the background and not being noticed did have it's advantages. Being "nerd" like and not noticed does save a lot of headaches and problems and I did enjoy the simplicity of not having relationship problems and other messes that can occur during bad relationships. I've seen a lot of my "in crowd cool" friends go through a lot of stress with relationships. In that regard, it's relieving.

Hang in there, you will not end up a weirdo. I turned out normal, (well, almost) but things will be fine for you. The best way to meet women is by interacting with a lot of people doing what you enjoy. If you love tennis for example, go out and do a lot of playing and naturally, you'll meet a girl who digs your positive enthusiam. So whatever you love, go out and make it public and your enjoyment will be felt by people around and people will find you likable.

But I do feel in a way that in some parts of the world, it's hard to meet women especially if you live in a quiet suburb and you are the quiet shy type like me. I think it's much easier finding women if you live in a big city. My co-worker for example used to live in New York and he's only around 5 feet tall and he's an ugly guy. But he's dated a lot of women. Unbelievable! Even short ugly guys can get a lot of action! But in a big city where there lots of women, it's possible. I mean, there's women everywhere in New York. So if you still can't find women, you may just have to move to a big city and most likely you will find someone to kiss. Or you can take my advice did I gave in the second paragraph that I wrote.
 
Sep 13, 2006 at 3:54 AM Post #75 of 95
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Wow lot of (relatively) old people here who are still.. single


Not necessarily STILL single. Personally, I've had quite a few short relationships plus a couple that lasted a year or more plus a couple that lasted 6-7 years plus a 13 year marriage. Finally it hit me that I'm just not very good at relationships.
 

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