[kstuart]

One of the articles has a description of why a shift to 432hz seems to produce the positive effects you perceive, but which are a mirage.

 

[Steven3445]

How can you change the pitch to 432 Hz in Audirvana? I wanna experiment with this.

 

[US Blues]

Gentlemen, we may have stumbled upon the heart of the Manhattan Project.

 

[Argo Duck]

It's the beauty of the internet...for any stated position (possibly with evidence) you can find the opposite position (possibly with evidence)

 

[castleofargh]

I need reclocking, upsampling, femto clocks, I'd rather ruin the frequency amplitudes than get time "smearing" from negative feedback. the filter at the far end of trebles must be special because I'll ear it(or pretend I do even on 24/96). all this is a must or else my trebles sound "digital". 
I don't use EQ because it degrades my music(better do it with an amp that will add way more noise and distortions for the same EQ), and only play lossless with utopian bitperfect.
 
good! now I'm ready for the real music! I can go and eF up the pitch entirely for some very arguable reasons.

 
the only time I felt like changing the pitch was when I was bored of Karl Bohm trying to turn Mozart's requiem into a lullaby( even dies irae is rather calm, What!!!!) too bad because the recording itself is amazing IMO. anyway I actually did boost the pitch on that album and it's disturbingly satisfying. I didn't speed up to the point of having Karajan's version of "I've got an appointment so I'll end this 10mn faster than anybody else",  but a little bit faster than the original ^_^.

 

[Baldr]

  The 12-foot reptilian aliens from the 9th Dimension are going to be angry with me.... but you guys are Sheep !
 
http://www.miltonline.com/2014/01/07/hertz-so-good/
 
http://www.zengardner.com/music-theory-432-hz-tuning-separating-fact-fiction/
 
https://acousticengineering.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/pitch-shifting-to-432-hz-doesnt-improve-music/
 
Whenever you read an article, google for an article debunking it.   For example, if you hear someone say "We need to take action against crime", a simple web search will bring up the data that violent crime has been decreasing for many years...

 
It is seldom that I have been so illuminated by enlightened research techniques. I must remember to consider well considered opposing points of view.
 
Your presented links indeed point out with delight the fallacy of universal faith based “mystical” A=432 tunings. Allow me to agree that however attuned to the natural orders on the universe, anti-National-Socialist, and conducive to the aesthetic growth of crystals that A=432 (actually C=256) tuning may be, it is a far better starting pitch point for adjustments than A=440 when all science is considered.
 
The dyspeptic authors of the above links present an incomplete scientific case solely in the context of pitch variance. These authors conveniently overlook temperament, the physics and acoustical properties of musical instruments, the period in which the music was composed, and documented preferences of the writers and composers.
 
Not that there is anything wrong with a purely scientific approach, and I welcome our affable scientific contributors, @castle of argh as well as @rrod. It is merely that one must consider all of the science involved.
 
It has been part of music reproduction tech to include tone controls and equalizers as a tool to adjust musical preferences. Therefore, if it were possible to adjust for temperament and pitch, and the above parameters, then we would have something that would be of truly historical significance. Fun to imagine.
 
By the way, interested readers can download two discs of various classical piano works in various temperaments from CD Baby (look up Enid Katahn). The differences are incredible, particularly for 6 bucks each.

 

[azteca x]

This podcast/radio program is an excellent and entertaining 33 minute overview of temperament. Features an interview with the author of a book on equal temperament and some good audio examples. 
 
http://www.betweenthelinernotes.com/episodes-1/2015/9/1/02-the-tuning-wars
 

 
I enjoy performances on period/historical instruments and had the opportunity to see the Academy of Ancient Music last year. I second Mr. Moffat and suggest you listen to some different performances just to hear what changes. It really can change the harmony/dissonance, feel, emotion, all of the subjective reactions we have to the objective reality of these different frequencies interacting.

 

[kstuart]

I am certainly not an opponent of Authentic Performance (or for that matter, mystical spirituality).
 
In fact, I was a season subscriber to one of the first Authentic Performance groups, the Philharmonia Baroque.
 
Such groups are tuning their instruments according to what was appropriate at the time of the composition, which makes sense.
 
However, humans have an instinctive tendency to accept something that is persuasively written, and the "432hz is coherent with the structure of the universe" stuff is not based on anything other than wishful thinking - and making 440hz into a sinister conspiracy - well - like all conspiracies, it is false simply because human beings are far too incompetent to pull off any global conspiracy (if you want a laugh, look up "chemtrails").

 

[jacal01]

  I did run across this discussion/explanation which might be helpful for some.
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=47356.0
 
All of this just lends itself to the stated perspective that 'music is magical'.

 
Good link as a primer on well vs. equal temperament.  The guy impressed me with his grasp on the subject of all tuning temperments of their period.  Well struck.

 

[jacal01]

Quote:

  Your presented links indeed point out with delight the fallacy of universal faith based “mystical” A=432 tunings. Allow me to agree that however attuned to the natural orders on the universe, anti-National-Socialist, and conducive to the aesthetic growth of crystals that A=432 (actually C=256) tuning may be, it is a far better starting pitch point for adjustments than A=440 when all science is considered.

 
One debunking website asserts that Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven all used pianos tuned to A = 421.6 Hz via Viennese piano maker Stein's tuning fork.  Handel's A tuning fork was at 422.5 Hz.   Along with well temperament, it might be a wonderment (sic) to hear their compositions played in their original tunings.
 

 

[castleofargh]

 my vision of the right way is "however the guy playing it wants it to be tuned". because musicians are artists, they create something unique. so from my point of view the debate should move to decide if the interpret is an artist, if so, then his choices are part of the artistic expressions and cannot be called wrong as he is the master of his own art including tuning his instrument. or if it's only the composer who's the real artist and then we can burn the interpret for not following the original piece.
but that would mean that there is only 1 correct interpretation of a written piece, probably best played by a robot. I believe the consensus is that all interpretations are unique pieces of art and that it's ok not to sound like every other interpretations of the same piece. therefore, my reasoning is that the interpret is indeed an artist and as such his way to tune his instrument is the right one.
 
I'm not saying this to discourage abusing DSPs, I have nothing against adding our own salt as consumers for the music to taste better.  what I contest a little here is the pseudo objective justifying that comes with the salt.
 
 
IMO AFAIK etc.

 

[jacal01]

Pseudo is a bit of a prejudgement.  Shall we classify all metaphysics as mythology?  Some zealots would beg to differ with you.  And some subset of those are armed and dangerous.
 
Just sayin'...

 

[johnjen]

   
 
The above pitch is relatively easy to implement in DSP.  Pull the pitch down 1.8181818 percent down and you're done.  snip

I saw your 1.818181818 and thought it was familiar but it's not what I use in JRiver.
 
I use -0.018181818181818 as a reduction multiplier (it reads -0.02 due to truncation).
 
Using this minus multiplier works in the tempo and pitch DSP plug-in inside DSP Studio, as a pitch reduction.
 
It took me a while to find THE number to use in JRiver due to its use of percentage of change.
 
JJ

 

[landroni]

 
 
It has been part of music reproduction tech to include tone controls and equalizers as a tool to adjust musical preferences. Therefore, if it were possible to adjust for temperament and pitch, and the above parameters, then we would have something that would be of truly historical significance. Fun to imagine.
 

That would certainly be revolutionary, never done before, and all-digital.
 
So, fun to imagine or... work in progress?

 

[Tuco1965]

That would certainly be revolutionary, never done before, and all-digital.

So, fun to imagine or... work in progress?

Smells like manhattan.