[alpovs]

Alas, the Russian Communist regimes killed over five times more people than the German National Socialists.

Respectfully, I'd like to correct you on this, so that people who don't know and don't check don't get this wrong. You probably meant the other way around.
While the sources can be further checked the Wikipedia shows 50-56 million deaths directly caused by WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
And "Several scholars, among them Stalin biographer Simon Sebag Montefiore, former Politburo member Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev and the director of Yale's "Annals of Communism" series Jonathan Brent, put the death toll at about 20 million." for the Soviet Union Communist regime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes#Soviet_Union

 

[Ableza]

Well, I fully agree with that statement, and I have "only" the 19-bit GMB/A2.
The sound is magical on all CDs that I buy.
I always rip them to 16/44.1 ALAC, so is that technically "Redbook?"

The Redbook is a set of specifications describing CDs. https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/Red-Book

If the music came from a CD then yes, it conforms to the Redbook specs.

 

[RCBinTN]

Well, I fully agree with that statement, and I have "only" the 19-bit GMB/A2.
The sound is magical on all CDs that I buy.
I always rip them to 16/44.1 ALAC, so is that technically "Redbook?"

Oh, never mind - found it via Google:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio

 

[RCBinTN]

The Redbook is a set of specifications describing CDs. https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/Red-Book

If the music came from a CD then yes, it conforms to the Redbook specs.

Thanks, Ableza! That was fast. LOL

 

[Ableza]

Thanks, Ableza! That was fast. LOL

I'm sitting in an airport waiting for a flight so I'm bored.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

It's an interesting definition of art. My own back of the envelope definition is 'the conscious use of technical skill to create an aesthetic object' — 'object' of course used loosely to include text and performance.

 

[sam6550a]

It's an interesting definition of art. My own back of the envelope definition is 'the conscious use of technical skill to create an aesthetic object' — 'object' of course used loosely to include text and performance.

???? what are you saying?

 

[Ableza]

My personal favorite definition is: art is creation with intention to express.

 

[jimmers]

It's an interesting definition of art. My own back of the envelope definition is 'the conscious use of technical skill to create an aesthetic object' — 'object' of course used loosely to include text and performance.

You missed out your 'not popular' criterion.

 

[yonson]

The Redbook is a set of specifications describing CDs. https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/Red-Book

If the music came from a CD then yes, it conforms to the Redbook specs.

Thanks, I was clueless about what Redbook meant and was going to research it when I got home and now I don't have to

 

[porchwizard]

My personal favorite definition is: art is creation with intention to express.

I offer this for consideration and not to try to define art.
I once watched a TV show where a man who did thatched roofs was doing a whimsical project of putting a decorative roof on a hollow tree being converted into an outdoor shower. The little roof had many decorative features. The discussion turned philosophical when he was asked if he was creating art. His answer was adamantly no. He was a craftsman creating a functional roof. Every curve and bulge was carefully considered as to how water would run off. His observation was that art didn't have that requirement and that form could prevail over function.
So that's one perspective.
Not that long ago, a local organization commissioned an artist to create a hammock like piece, hanging from trees over a waterway, made from vines and natural materials. It had to admit it was attractive and interesting but it didn't last the summer.
The shower roof, four years later, is still intact.

 

[artur9]

All I know is that I hate being called Art.

 

[Operaphile-]

I’ve never considered the definition of art; I’m intrigued! As I work it out, for my personal definition anyway, I find myself compiling a list of criteria:

1. Man made.
Yes, a sunset or landscape can be wonderous and fit most definitions of art, as can a painting by an elephant, but to me it seems a fortuitous coincidence of events.

2. Its purpose should be to elicit an emotional response on a deeper level, and it must succeed.
I like what porchwizard said and I think it’s a great illustration. I agree that what he was creating wasn’t art because it’s purpose was functional. That doesn’t mean it can’t be beautiful or artistic. TBO I’m not sure about this criteria; it doesn’t seem quite finished in my mind.

3. It is experienced passively, without physical involvement.
You almost always have a physical reaction but it’s a result of the mental and emotional response. Food is rarely art. It can be glorious, but it’s rarely art. Neither is experiential “art.”

This is already too long. I’m rambling. I’d be interested in some of the criteria of others in this thread. My definition is in its infancy and not yet fixed. I can’t remember who started this topic but well done!

 

[basstrombone]

OK – Two topics (Third added).

Well, it turns out my favorite German Musician of the era, Mr. Wilhelm Furtwangler, had the most difficult time clearing his reputation, probably due to his honesty. WF was the last and greatest purely romantic conductor ever. IMHO, until one has heard Bruckner, Wagner, or R. Strauss conducted by this giant, one has not heard them. Mr. Furtwangler spent time at great cost to his reputation defending Jewish musicians and concealing their Jewish background from the Reich.

An anecdote from my recent study of Wartime Jewish German musicians was that Knappertsbusch was in the Berlin hall when a junior was rehearsing the orchestra – his attention was diverted when the orchestra suddenly greatly and abruptly improved. Startled, he looked around the room and realized Maestro Furtwangler had entered the room, remaining by the door, otherwise doing nothing.

As a musician I have always loved playing the Stravinsky Mass and the Octet. They are beautiful and could not be more different than Firebird and the Rite.
And Norman Lebrecht has posted the Berlin Phil has released a 22 CD set of Furtwangler's WW2 recordings:
https://slippedisc.com/2019/01/berl...campaign=Feed:+slippedisc/nICW+(Slipped+Disc)

 

[basstrombone]

As a trombonist I've always loved playing both the Stravinsky Mass and the Octet. They couldn't be more different than Firebird and the Rite. Also, from Norman Lebrecht: The Berlin Phil has announced they are releasing a 22 CD set of the complete WW2 Furtwangler recordings:
https://slippedisc.com/2019/01/berl...campaign=Feed:+slippedisc/nICW+(Slipped+Disc)