[dissembled]

I don't find the UM3xs detailed but rather smooth sounding. Maybe a bit more treble would make me label them as being detailed.

Then again, maybe I'm not inserting them right. Maybe I have strange ear canals. Maybe I got a faulty pair. They do sound muffled to me with every tip I've used. Very seldom do they sound like $300+ IEMs to my ears, unfortunately. I've sent them back for a new pair.

If the replacement suffers from the same problem...then it really is my stupidly shaped ears that's causing the trouble. Bah.

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

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Originally Posted by Oomingmak /img/forum/go_quote.gif The UM3X doesn't sound muffled at all to me, the instrument separation is great. I love how the lows are very warm yet the mids and highs aren't affected by it ... it creates a nice dynamic that I have come to love. Deep punchy bass, forward mids and highs that should they be any higher would become sibilant.

I completely agree with most of what you say. The lows are almost perfect (a bit more thump with the drums would be nice). The mids are lovely and I'm usually not too observant of the highs but they are nice.

It's just the tiny soundstage. It squashes everything together. I can hear different instruments distinctly on their own but i can't place them seperately in my head (much less outside my head) unless the music really exaggerates the separation between left and right.

 

[charlie0904]

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Originally Posted by dissembled /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't find the UM3xs detailed but rather smooth sounding. Maybe a bit more treble would make me label them as being detailed. Then again, maybe I'm not inserting them right. Maybe I have strange ear canals. Maybe I got a faulty pair. They do sound muffled to me with every tip I've used. Very seldom do they sound like $300+ IEMs to my ears, unfortunately. I've sent them back for a new pair. If the replacement suffers from the same problem...then it really is my stupidly shaped ears that's causing the trouble. Bah.

that's what I felt when I used the UM3X. treble is better after I got my UM56.

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

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Originally Posted by charlie0904 /img/forum/go_quote.gif that's what I felt when I used the UM3X. treble is better after I got my UM56.

Did getting a UM56 help with the soundstage or anything else? Which shop did u go to for your impressions and UM56 in Singapore?

 

[charlie0904]

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Originally Posted by A_Dying_Wren /img/forum/go_quote.gif Did getting a UM56 help with the soundstage or anything else? Which shop did u go to for your impressions and UM56 in Singapore?

soundstage only abit wider not much IMO. I believe its the better separation which affected the soundstage. treble is better, forward mids (abit brighter), bass improved.

I feel that unless you do not have a good fit, you do not need to get a UM56 as there is a better option to remold your UM3X into a full custom(slightly more expensive than UM56). if you are looking at soundstage, you will need customs. The placement of armature drivers in a custom shell will create a more proper soundstage.

I went to Jaben to get everything done. mine's acrylic though.

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

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Originally Posted by charlie0904 /img/forum/go_quote.gif soundstage only abit wider not much IMO. I believe its the better separation which affected the soundstage. treble is better, forward mids (abit brighter), bass improved. I feel that unless you do not have a good fit, you do not need to get a UM56 as there is a better option to remold your UM3X into a full custom(slightly more expensive than UM56). if you are looking at soundstage, you will need customs. The placement of armature drivers in a custom shell will create a more proper soundstage. I went to Jaben to get everything done. mine's acrylic though.

Do you mean Unique Melody? Its tempting but it also destroys any resell value and I've got NS coming up in a year or so so it seems a shame to get customs now and only be able to use them one or two years of their lifespan.

Something to think about... but at that price I could get JH5s. The demo set of them at Jaben was amazing.

 

[charlie0904]

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Originally Posted by A_Dying_Wren /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you mean Unique Melody? Its tempting but it also destroys any resell value and I've got NS coming up in a year or so so it seems a shame to get customs now and only be able to use them one or two years of their lifespan. Something to think about... but at that price I could get JH5s. The demo set of them at Jaben was amazing.

yes. reshell is more sensible to be done after your UM3X or your iem warranty ends. anyway don't worry I am sure you should still be able to use your customs during NS depending on your unit.

JH5 is amazing, if I do not have my UM3X I would gone for it. anyway sound signature is different. I am more interested in Fitear though after reading sasaki's review. heheh.

 

[bakhtiar]

NS? Then go for custom. Why? If the IEMs got stolen, no one can use it except you

. Also, you can claim the IEMs are your because of your ears impressions are on the IEMs

.

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

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Originally Posted by charlie0904 /img/forum/go_quote.gif yes. reshell is more sensible to be done after your UM3X or your iem warranty ends. anyway don't worry I am sure you should still be able to use your customs during NS depending on your unit. JH5 is amazing, if I do not have my UM3X I would gone for it. anyway sound signature is different. I am more interested in Fitear though after reading sasaki's review. heheh.

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Originally Posted by bakhtiar /img/forum/go_quote.gif NS? Then go for custom. Why? If the IEMs got stolen, no one can use it except you . Also, you can claim the IEMs are your because of your ears impressions are on the IEMs .

You guys are good at playing devil's advocate

. I am really tempted to get the JH5s... Maybe give the Westone 3s a try first.

Gonna have to sell the UM3X. Just can't live with the small soundstage. I mean i can make myself momentarily imagine a wide soundstage but I rather my IE8s for that.

EDIT: Do you guys happen to know anyone interested in Singapore? PM me for details.

 

[tstarn06]

Check out the JH5 appreciation thread. There have been a few new owners who have had to send theirs back several times (fit problems), and if you in Singapore, that could be a frsutrating issue.

I was looking at the JH5s as well, but decided to just get the UM56s instead.

And maybe the W3s will be more to your liking. I also liked them a lot, but wanted to have just one pair of top-tier universals.

 

[qusp]

I actually find the UM3X to have a significant soundstage improvement with UM56, but source (iHP132->D10) had as much to do with that as the custom fit IMO. source is a main concern when talking soundstage depth; the whole picture needs to be taken into account IMO. but yes JH13 does widen the soundstage just a bit

now who's playing devils advocate??

 

[bakhtiar]

He, he he ...

D10, he he heh ... D10's has a warm sound signature, which has very good synergy with UM3Xs and PFEs.


A_Dying_Wren
I think you need to try another amp, because Icon Mobile is too forward with UM3Xs, and you perceived it as a small/cramped soundstage.

Thank you.

 

[charlie0904]

pico slim? Justin mention its a warm amp. my itouch 1G is too lousy on itself.

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

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Originally Posted by tstarn06 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Check out the JH5 appreciation thread. There have been a few new owners who have had to send theirs back several times (fit problems), and if you in Singapore, that could be a frsutrating issue. I was looking at the JH5s as well, but decided to just get the UM56s instead. And maybe the W3s will be more to your liking. I also liked them a lot, but wanted to have just one pair of top-tier universals.

Maybe. But I only ever buy stuff second hand so I'm gonna need to wait for someone to offer me. Its not worth staking the claim on being the first to a earphone. Plus, others can burn-in for me

Important especially for my IE8s.

I'm torn between getting the UM56 and getting the JH5s. Fitting may be a problem but I'm confident Jaben can do a good job of it. Every few days there's announcements asking people to pick up their customs.

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Originally Posted by bakhtiar /img/forum/go_quote.gif He, he he ... D10, he he heh ... D10's has a warm sound signature, which has very good synergy with UM3Xs and PFEs. A_Dying_Wren I think you need to try another amp, because Icon Mobile is too forward with UM3Xs, and you perceived it as a small/cramped soundstage. Thank you.

That could be true. I've also got a Govibe Magnum here which I tried not to use (selling off to raise money) but may have no choice. The soundstage is noticeably wider (but slight) on my N91 so source could help but not enough.

Well, now I'm in a quandary because the UM3X sounds amazing. Perfect balance of mids/highs/lows with amazing clarity. If only there was a person child of the UM3X and the IE8 for the latters' boom and soundstage.

EDIT: Just got my Cowon D2+. My Nuforce Icon Mobile now sounds like rubbish. Great... If only my D2+ could be my DAC

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

Right... I take all I said back. The UM3X simply need a bit more love than the nuforce icon mobile. Straight out of the Cowon D2+ (with a few BBE+ enhancements

), the soundstage really opens up and the music sounds incredibly lovely, if the mids are now getting a tiny bit recessed.

Don't think I'll be selling these now.