Vision Ears and Rhines Custom Monitors (formerly Compact Monitors)

Nov 22, 2024 at 1:03 AM Post #5,821 of 5,886
Can someone tell me how much VE10 weighs in grams per ear piece please. Can anyone compare to Canpur CP74E as I had it but was to warm/boring for me and just not enough bass. Also by any chance has anyone heard AME Gaia, I believe it's the opposite with more back vocals/mids with enchanting highs v shape. Both have 8mm DD. Gaia weighs 7 grams per what about VE10. The biggest thing for me is fit/weight/comfort if it can't sit in my ear for a few hours reasonably what's the point the Canpur had a huge annoying nozzle. Unfortunately there not just all Xelentos size 😁 Also, Xelento is "intimate yet good stage laid back yet big sound relaxed treble" could this be considered a direct flagship upgrade to Xelento? How do those compare. I have tri silver cable will it get more juice out of the top end? i listen too deep house loudly so I need it all
 
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Nov 22, 2024 at 1:12 AM Post #5,822 of 5,886
Can someone tell me how much VE10 weighs in grams per ear piece please. Can anyone compare to Canpur CP74E as I had it but was to warm/boring for me and just not enough bass. Also by any chance has anyone heard AME Gaia, I believe it's the opposite with more back vocals/mids with enchanting highs v shape. Both have 8mm DD. Gaia weighs 7 grams per what about VE10. The biggest thing for me is fit/weight/comfort if it can't sit in my ear for a few hours reasonably what's the point the Canpur had a huge annoying nozzle. Unfortunately there not just all Xelentos size 😁 maybe some day. I listen too deep house loudly. I need it all, W shape.
I was able to try the AME Gaia tour unit. I loved the sound but hated the fit. It's very large and has a short, stubby nozzle, so it kept slipping out of my right ear. :slight_frown:
 
Nov 22, 2024 at 4:05 PM Post #5,823 of 5,886
So the VE10 is more ergonomic you'd say? A clearly more friendly fit? I now know VE10 is 6g, one less gram then Gaia so that's ~15% less ...
Has anyone heard Xelento 1st version as well? The signatures seem quite similar could this be considered the direct Flagship upgrade from German made Xelento improved technicalities imaging more articulate highs etc
 
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Nov 29, 2024 at 5:44 PM Post #5,824 of 5,886
I recently had a chance to spend a short time with EXT MKII borrowed from Musicteck, and I was interested in how it compares to the OG EXT, in both the sound tuning and design ergonomics.

While the overall shell design is very similar, including hosting 4EST drivers in the nozzle, the tip of the nozzle is noticeably smaller in diameter, improving the comfort of the fit. Of course, this is subjective and relative to the anatomy of your inner/outer ear, but for me personally, I had to rotate EXT OG inside my ear to find a more comfortable position to relieve pressure from the nozzle, while with EXT MKII, I hardly even needed to rotate the shell and the fit was more comfortable during extended listening sessions. The pictures below are of their limited edition "golden" model with EA cable.

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I found EXT MKII to have a balanced sound sig with a detailed natural musically-rich tonality. Here you will find a deep extended bass with plenty of fullness and bloom, extending down to a textured analog-quality rumble and rounded mid-bass punch with longer decay of notes. Also, I hear a fuller body with natural detailed mids enhanced with smooth rich coloring and clear detailed treble with plenty of natural clarity. EXT MKII stands out with a smooth natural tuning without being veiled or congested. Some manufacturers choose to have more bass impact or enhanced detail retrieval in their next-get releases. Instead, VE approached their next-gen EXT MKII with more musicality and richer tonality while still maintaining a pretty good level of natural detail retrieval.

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In comparison to EXT OG, MKII has a bit less sub-bass rumble and a little smoother mids and treble which gives it a more balanced sound tuning and more organic musical tonality. OG has more elevated rumble and more clarity in upper mids, while MKII has a more linear sub-/mid-bass tuning and sweeter mids/vocals tuning while still maintaining a decent level of detail retrieval. Another difference I noticed here is while both have a similar soundstage width, the imaging of MKII is a bit more center-focused while OG imaging has a bit more spread.

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Dec 5, 2024 at 12:52 PM Post #5,825 of 5,886
So just got the VE10 seems a bit congested and muddied in lower mids on first few hours? do these open up and get better separation after more play time do the drivers need to broken in
 
Dec 5, 2024 at 1:34 PM Post #5,826 of 5,886
So just got the VE10 seems a bit congested and muddied in lower mids on first few hours? do these open up and get better separation after more play time do the drivers need to broken in
It does get better separation once the DD is burned in but it isn’t an overly wide IEM that has a focus on stereo imaging. It is much better at depth and layering IMO. A cable upgrade really helps as well.
 
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Dec 5, 2024 at 1:47 PM Post #5,827 of 5,886
It's just in certain YouTube house mixes which probably don't have best recording Ive just used my Plussound tri silver the stock has copper in it I wanna see what this DD can really do it sneakily hits harder each volume step up wonder what a GPS would do
 
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Dec 17, 2024 at 6:42 AM Post #5,828 of 5,886
It's just in certain YouTube house mixes which probably don't have best recording Ive just used my Plussound tri silver the stock has copper in it I wanna see what this DD can really do it sneakily hits harder each volume step up wonder what a GPS would do
Im using Quad Copper myself. Better separation and transparency.
 
Dec 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Post #5,829 of 5,886
I recently acquired the EXT MK II and really like this IEM. I cable rolled with the Eros S II but apparently the Effect Audio Con-X 2-pin terminations are too loose for these IEM. They did change the sound quite a bit - taking away a lot of the warmth and kind of making the sound a bit too sterile. But the loose fit was a dealbreaker. I tried using the 2-pin Con-X connectors from my Ares cable and the same result, too loose. So I have to exchange the Eros S II.

Has anyone heard these IEM with the Eletech Raphael?
 
Dec 17, 2024 at 10:29 PM Post #5,830 of 5,886
I recently acquired the EXT MK II and really like this IEM. I cable rolled with the Eros S II but apparently the Effect Audio Con-X 2-pin terminations are too loose for these IEM. They did change the sound quite a bit - taking away a lot of the warmth and kind of making the sound a bit too sterile. But the loose fit was a dealbreaker. I tried using the 2-pin Con-X connectors from my Ares cable and the same result, too loose. So I have to exchange the Eros S II.

Has anyone heard these IEM with the Eletech Raphael?
It was fantastic with the OG EXT not sure how it'd affect the new one.
 
Dec 20, 2024 at 7:24 PM Post #5,831 of 5,886
Settled on the Eletech Raphael cable as per a rec from Matt at Bloom, and the Spinfit Omni tips, and this combo just kicks with the EXT Mk II
 
Dec 20, 2024 at 9:30 PM Post #5,832 of 5,886
Have you tried fiio hs20 on EXT mk2? I found it makes the original surprisingly clear compared to other tips albeit the highs can be too much (to make it fit my ear i had to cut the tips shorter, somehow it changes the the highs dramatically to be more subdued)
 
Dec 21, 2024 at 10:43 AM Post #5,833 of 5,886
Have you tried fiio hs20 on EXT mk2? I found it makes the original surprisingly clear compared to other tips albeit the highs can be too much (to make it fit my ear i had to cut the tips shorter, somehow it changes the the highs dramatically to be more subdued)
I've never tried any FiiO tips actually. Even though I own around twenty or more types of tips
 
Dec 23, 2024 at 11:42 AM Post #5,834 of 5,886
So just got the VE10 seems a bit congested and muddied in lower mids on first few hours? do these open up and get better separation after more play time do the drivers need to broken in
the VE10 may sound a bit congested at first. Many users report that it improves with more playtime, with better separation and clarity as the drivers break in
 
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:19 AM Post #5,835 of 5,886
Anybody with the EXT Mark II find that the two-pin connectors on other cables are sometimes simply too loose?
 

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