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Victor HA-FW10000: 10th Anniversary model

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  1. toughnut
    Posted on IER-Z1R thread,

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  2. jmills8
    What, that the JVC blows the Sony ?
  3. toughnut
    Depend on what you meant by blow. Getting blow in some context is positive. Lol

    Again, the tuning might not be final on Sony but the assistance there saying there’s no change in that on final release (?).
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  4. jmills8
    So if you had to buy one of them, you would buy the JVC. Come on just say it.
  5. toughnut
    Just say I'm glad I gone ahead and take the chance with JVC.
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  6. jmills8
    Yo da man. Dont say that on that thread or they will attack you.
  7. toughnut
    Only happen in CL2 thread :floatsmile:
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  9. davidmolliere
    Well to be fair I am not sure driving the IER-Z1R with 2 dynamic drivers with the iPhone dongle does it justice so I’ll wait a bit for comparisons out of a more powerful source but still all account no matter the source seem to be inconsistent right now, the only commonality being the mids are recessed and with a strange / off tone. I am not sure why some report harsh treble while others report the opposite, maybe taste / sensitivity? We’ll see down the line. I am still curious to audition them, although here in Paris curiously not sure I’ll be able to....
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  10. toughnut
    The unit I tried, the mid definitely not recessed. Treble not harsh either, in fact I would prefer it more prevalent and I'm sensitive to high (my ear ring when listen to CL2).

    Off tone/strange? Maybe that's the word for what I considered plasticky. Drum beats sounded slightly off, for example.

    In term of driveability, maybe it's underpowered but I use M9 balanced out of Q5/AM3B and ZX300, overall sound tuning/signature remain same and doesn't improve or change the plasticky issue. Same with trying different cable (ALO Litz).
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2019
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  11. Kitechaser
    Lower the volume on the CL2. It's supposed to sound bass lite, like an electrostat speaker, when you up the volume to get the bass response of other iems, you are also passing the treble limit your ears can handle.

    On another note, I really wanna audition the 10k, I hope they are at CanJam LA.
    Sony is not on my radar anymore.
  12. audionewbi
    My relatives just asked me to buy him the last unit of Z1R and bring it back for him. I’ll get to spend sometime with it so I’ll post my review when I go back and include z1r comparison too.

    All and all pairs nicely with wm1z, but with r2r2k, Jvc fw10k is the winner.
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  13. vr1
    Hi named name,
    Are you using WM1A with FW10000 ? Does the WM1A has enough power to drive FW10000?
  14. named name
    For the most part I feel that the WM1A has adequate power out of the 4.4 balanced (high gain). As reference listening to Eagles HFO Hotel California FLAC at around 50/120 volume.
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2019
  15. MulberryMadness
    Lower the volume, try getting Eddie Van Halen to lower the volume, lol. Over-reaching generalizations imo, it depends on the iem in question. Bass lite? Mr Speakers Voce estats are not 'bass lite'.

    CanJam SoCal LA was 2018, dwtn LA> CanJam SoCal 2019 will be ~50mi south in Orange County, Irvine, not LA. If you've been to a CanJam b4, you know it's not exactly the quietest listening enviro, might as well be in public transit. & what if HA-FW10000 need 300+hrs to 'burn in' like the CL2s?


    not sure what this treble limit is, most ppl over 50 don't have much treble hearing above 12k...so for us, we can turn it up to level 15, like Van Halen. Turn up the volume to get impactful expansive bass, shouldn't affect treble in that manner if it is a 'balanced' tune. While you wait, I Google'd 'Final Audio Lab II' yesterday, seems there is a pair of them on a Chinese website sans cables for sale @$300 USD, ~1/20th the full set should go for. Meaning they could be counterfeit/not working, and/or stolen Lab II?

    With these new customized 3D printed iems, wonder how long before we see a significant increase of counterfeit high-end iems being made in China and other countries. Rt now, you can get plenty of counterfeit 'collector' wines in China, whether it be Bordeaux, Burgundy or Aussie Penfolds G. Hermitage bttlings. I've seen online 'certificate of authenticity' for many limited high-end Chinese teas like collector pu-er or Longjing, those Certs aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
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