Vali 2 tube rolling
Feb 6, 2019 at 4:56 AM Post #1,802 of 6,436
Hi everyone,

I've recently got a Vali 2 and currently testing the EH 6CG7 and JJ E88CC Gold tubes: I have a slight preference for the former, but they both sound quite similar to me in the end, is anyone able to recommend a noticeably different sounding tube in reasonable price range (i.e. no more than double the price of those two)?

Thanks!
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 8:37 AM Post #1,803 of 6,436
Hi everyone,

I've recently got a Vali 2 and currently testing the EH 6CG7 and JJ E88CC Gold tubes: I have a slight preference for the former, but they both sound quite similar to me in the end, is anyone able to recommend a noticeably different sounding tube in reasonable price range (i.e. no more than double the price of those two)?

Thanks!
There are a lot to try, just going through the previous posts on this thread should give you an idea of some. I have the JJ gold pin and one that I found that sounds nice in a different way is a Reflector 6N1P. It works without an adapter, has a good sound, and can be found on Ebay for less than 10 bucks including shipping.
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 9:13 AM Post #1,804 of 6,436
There are a lot to try, just going through the previous posts on this thread should give you an idea of some. I have the JJ gold pin and one that I found that sounds nice in a different way is a Reflector 6N1P. It works without an adapter, has a good sound, and can be found on Ebay for less than 10 bucks including shipping.
...@Mephit ... semi-serious question...
Is it longer than the stock tube shipped from Schiit? And how (gloriously) incandescent is it?


Nope, it still sounds like a crass posting. <:)
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 9:37 AM Post #1,805 of 6,436
Hi everyone,

I've recently got a Vali 2 and currently testing the EH 6CG7 and JJ E88CC Gold tubes: I have a slight preference for the former, but they both sound quite similar to me in the end, is anyone able to recommend a noticeably different sounding tube in reasonable price range (i.e. no more than double the price of those two)?

Thanks!

Are you in the cont. US? I have some NOS 1963 Amperex 6DJ8 from Holland I'm looking to part with. I would guess as an older NOS tube they would sound quite different. I'd sell you one for pretty cheap.
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 10:23 AM Post #1,806 of 6,436
...@Mephit ... semi-serious question...
Is it longer than the stock tube shipped from Schiit? And how (gloriously) incandescent is it?


Nope, it still sounds like a crass posting. <:)
6n1p.JPG This is a 6N1P which came stock with the Vali 2. It has a higher temperature than the e88cc, which might be why it glows so bright. (This a time exposure) It is a good sounding tube, after it get some time in the socket. I would also recommend a socket-saver, and 6SN7 adapter and try some 6SN7 tubes. US Made Tung-sol Tall Boy with three holes can be purchased for under $10 on eBay...
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 11:53 AM Post #1,807 of 6,436
Feb 7, 2019 at 12:09 PM Post #1,808 of 6,436
There are a lot to try, just going through the previous posts on this thread should give you an idea of some. I have the JJ gold pin and one that I found that sounds nice in a different way is a Reflector 6N1P. It works without an adapter, has a good sound, and can be found on Ebay for less than 10 bucks including shipping.

Thanks for your answer. So are 6N1P tubes compatible without adapters? What about PCC88?
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 12:10 PM Post #1,809 of 6,436
Are you in the cont. US? I have some NOS 1963 Amperex 6DJ8 from Holland I'm looking to part with. I would guess as an older NOS tube they would sound quite different. I'd sell you one for pretty cheap.

I'm not in the US I'm afraid.
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 12:27 PM Post #1,810 of 6,436
Thanks for your answer. So are 6N1P tubes compatible without adapters? What about PCC88?

Yes. Compatible tubes with the Vali sans adapter should be as follows: 6CG7, 6FQ7, 6BK7, PCC88 (7DJ8), ECC88 (6DJ8), E88CC (6922 and it's many family members-I'll go in to this), 6N1P, 6N2P, 6N23P, ECC85. I am probably forgetting one or two of the more "niche" ones or sub versions.

7DJ8 (PCC88 in Europe) are identical in almost every way to a 6DJ8 (ECC88). The main difference is they technically use a higher heater voltage (7V) as opposed to 6.3V of the "normal" 6922 substitute. They work fine though...I use a 7DJ8 variant (Japanese Matsushita) in my Lyr 2. If anything it will last longer, but some people say they don't like the 7DJ8 sound. I say it's up to you!

On the topic of 6922 variants...technically the 6922 (E88CC) is a high end version of the 6DJ8. Their internal structure is almost always different from the 6DJ8/7DJ8, but they should have nearly identical properties. Between the US and Europe, there are MANY variants. Some are highly sought after and command insane prices (Simens Cca for example).

You can read this article on them: http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm

I wouldn't buy in to all of the hype he has for some types of tube (he wants to sell you them remember) but it at least makes a little more sense of the nomenclature.
 
Feb 7, 2019 at 1:25 PM Post #1,811 of 6,436
Feb 7, 2019 at 2:17 PM Post #1,813 of 6,436
Anyone interested, I can sling this up on to Thingiverse/MyMiniFactory so y You can 3D print a little cover going from a socket saver to the 6SN7 to 6922 adapter (my adapter is from Tube Depot). Thingiverse or MyMiniFactory
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Feb 7, 2019 at 11:25 PM Post #1,815 of 6,436
For those interested, eBay has a Tung-Sol 6sn7gt mouse ears going for $29.95.
Just bought it. Hopefully it is legit & good :)
 

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