Tman5293
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Here's a pic of my XL cushions:
i come here so seldom these days i feel like a tourist... anyhoo, alot of catching up just went on and i wanted to share my view of the XL pads aswell.
ill start out with the positive - the sound.
now, ive only had about 1.5 hours of listening with them, so this is all just "early impressions", but so far im impressed! while others mentioned a slight increase in soundstage, to me its rather dramatic! i feel like this is the biggest, and the most positive thing the new pads have to offer as far as sound quality.
i also feel like theres a better seal with these pads, resulting in what, to me, sounds like a much more relaxed bass, and a more impactful and deep subbass (these changes are subtle, but 100% noticeable imo). to me, this is a very positive change as im quite the sub bass freak, and i tend to get annoyed with over bloated mid bass.
as far as mids and treble, it just sound slightly different to me. i cant quite put my finger on it. i cant really name these changes as of yet... i need some more eartime before i feel comfortable giving an opinion there.
and heres the negative - comfort
im glad to read all these posts from releived people who are enjoying their new found comfort. but its just not so for me im afraid... let me elaborate:
originally, with the stock pads, my antihelix would get crushed by the driver, and even after a rather extreme "paper towel" mod, which stretched the pads to their utmost limits, i would still feel pain after about an hour.
the new pads are deeper for sure, but theyre also much softer, so in effect - not all that different for my apparently freakishly pointy antihelixs.
i put the new pads on and took them for a spin and right after about 5 minuets i could already detect some minor discomfort. its been about and hour and a half and my ears hurt like hell. its still an improvement mind you, but not a very big one. i guess ill do the same mod with the new pads... hopefully that will work, but even if it does, one would expect new "XL" pads to be big enough without any consumer mods...
so i guess im the first one with a negative opinion on the new XLs... maybe i just have very abnormal ears...
i still love my m-100s nonetheless. i was just expecting something more from these pads thats all
you should measure how many millimeters your ears protrude from your head (from base to antihelix). then you can find headphones that are deep enough to accommodate them. pads also squish when you wear them, so you need a few millimeters for clearance. i remember that the sony mdr-1r has an angled drivers to give your antihelix more room, so maybe you should look at headphones with those kinds of features.
ill tell you what, my ears touch the inside of my dt 770s aswell, only their drivers are covered with a layer of foam or something, which makes them just fine. i can wear my 770s for hours on end without suffering any discomfort.
im too busy to try right now, but ill do my version of the "paper towel" mod on these pads aswell and hopefully ill be alright.
im just a little disappointed with the XLs... their called XL after all... again, if im the only one, then i guess its just my weird ears (though they look entirely normal i swear!). and i still do get an extra half hour or so before it gets really painful than i did with the former pads, so its not all that terrible. it is and improvement, just not a very big one.
as much as id LOVE to get new headphones (not for replacing the m-100, just for variety), i dont think ill be measuring my ears just yet. i start college on sunday and i have the feeling i wont have enough time to listen to music for so long, not to mention the money id save and could use to pay my rent...
ill tell you what, my ears touch the inside of my dt 770s aswell, only their drivers are covered with a layer of foam or something, which makes them just fine. i can wear my 770s for hours on end without suffering any discomfort.
im too busy to try right now, but ill do my version of the "paper towel" mod on these pads aswell and hopefully ill be alright.
im just a little disappointed with the XLs... their called XL after all... again, if im the only one, then i guess its just my weird ears (though they look entirely normal i swear!). and i still do get an extra half hour or so before it gets really painful than i did with the former pads, so its not all that terrible. it is and improvement, just not a very big one.
as much as id LOVE to get new headphones (not for replacing the m-100, just for variety), i dont think ill be measuring my ears just yet. i start college on sunday and i have the feeling i wont have enough time to listen to music for so long, not to mention the money id save and could use to pay my rent...
It is interesting to offer 2 versions of the M-100. The sound is definitely different for everyone, I've found the bass tamed and the highs more pronounced but I thought the mids were more recessed, One of my coworkers with the M-100 said that with the XL pads they were fairly flat... Tyll's remeasure/re-review of the m-100 would be interesting
For me, with the XL pads, there seems to be a better seal on my head so the bass has a little more impact, but also seems a bit looser, the soundstage is a bit wider so instruments sound less "in my head," the midrange seems to be a bit more laid-back/distant, and the treble is toned down a bit/less harsh. Some of the music in my collection is more listenable with the XL pads since the treble doesn't sound as fatiguing, but at the cost of having a more laid-back midrange. In terms of noise isolation, on the bus they seem to have about the same amount as the original pads.
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For me, with the XL pads, there seems to be a better seal on my head so the bass has a little more impact, but also seems a bit looser, the soundstage is a bit wider so instruments sound less "in my head," the midrange seems to be a bit more laid-back/distant, and the treble is toned down a bit/less harsh. Some of the music in my collection is more listenable with the XL pads since the treble doesn't sound as fatiguing, but at the cost of having a more laid-back midrange. In terms of noise isolation, on the bus they seem to have about the same amount as the original pads.
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Interesting, we seem to mostly agree except for the highs. For me the XL pads seem to sound a tad brighter helping to balance the sig out a bit. My stock pads gave me just as good a seal as my XL pads. You think it has anything to do with the XL pads giving you a better seal?
IMHO, the XL pads on the M-100 make them the best sounding, most comfortable portable closed headphone in the $300 range currently on the market.