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Yes, I can corroborate that using a digital amp with any common-ground connection does not work. I have an ASL UHC device that is a speaker amp-to-headphone jack transformer device, and it did not work with my JVC digital-amp receiver.
The other issue, as you allude to, is the frequency shift that apparently occurs when connecting digital amps to non-optimized loads. Usually a speaker amp is designed for 4 or 8-ohm loads. Digital amps apparently have a filter that adjusts their frequency response based on this assumption. I don't completely understand the technical details, but this is what I have gleaned from asking similiar questions. Basically, connecting a different load than the designer intended causes this shift.
However, this does not necessarily mean that something will sound bad, assuming the separate ground connection thing is properly addressed. The AKG K1000's are 120-ohm, and they sounded terrific to me when connected to my old digital amp. Maybe there was a frequency shift happening, but it sounded great to me *shrug*. Imo, the value of the latest digital amps (price :: performance ratio) is undeniable.
I just never tried connecting regular headphones to it with separate ground wiring. Sennheiser HD600's are cabled with separate ground wires at the driver-end that meet up at the 1/4" plug. It would be a simple matter of modifying a stock cable (or a second cable) by cutting off the 1/4" plug and wiring the four wires to the speaker taps. Grado & top AKG cables are similiar, albeit hardwired.
Most Ultrasone's are wired with a common ground. But I'm considering having mine rewired to each driver separately for similiar experimentation. I was hoping for someone with actual experience with digital amps to chime in.
Originally Posted by jpelg /img/forum/go_quote.gif The big question how the Panny's digital amp would handle the load in terms of FR shifts. The results may be different for low-impedance (<100 ohm) cans vs. the higher-impedance Senns, as well. |
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Originally Posted by scompton /img/forum/go_quote.gif Connecting headphones to a T amp's speaker terminals doesn't work, at list for the Sonic Impact T amps. I'm not sure about others. There have been a couple of threads with links to DIY sites that talk about what's going on when you do it. It has something to do with some type of filtering that requires separate grounds. |
Yes, I can corroborate that using a digital amp with any common-ground connection does not work. I have an ASL UHC device that is a speaker amp-to-headphone jack transformer device, and it did not work with my JVC digital-amp receiver.
The other issue, as you allude to, is the frequency shift that apparently occurs when connecting digital amps to non-optimized loads. Usually a speaker amp is designed for 4 or 8-ohm loads. Digital amps apparently have a filter that adjusts their frequency response based on this assumption. I don't completely understand the technical details, but this is what I have gleaned from asking similiar questions. Basically, connecting a different load than the designer intended causes this shift.
However, this does not necessarily mean that something will sound bad, assuming the separate ground connection thing is properly addressed. The AKG K1000's are 120-ohm, and they sounded terrific to me when connected to my old digital amp. Maybe there was a frequency shift happening, but it sounded great to me *shrug*. Imo, the value of the latest digital amps (price :: performance ratio) is undeniable.
I just never tried connecting regular headphones to it with separate ground wiring. Sennheiser HD600's are cabled with separate ground wires at the driver-end that meet up at the 1/4" plug. It would be a simple matter of modifying a stock cable (or a second cable) by cutting off the 1/4" plug and wiring the four wires to the speaker taps. Grado & top AKG cables are similiar, albeit hardwired.
Most Ultrasone's are wired with a common ground. But I'm considering having mine rewired to each driver separately for similiar experimentation. I was hoping for someone with actual experience with digital amps to chime in.