USB-C to 3.5mm adapters (DAC) - Let's find the best
Jan 22, 2020 at 8:51 PM Post #961 of 6,483
I can play 16-bit / 44.1 KHz without resampling just fine with my Meizu DAC Pro, there are no issues with Pro version.

That's treu, pro version does this just fine, but the normal Meizu hifi dac doesn't. And the appeal of the Meizu dac is the price to performance ratio.

And the pro version is in price so close to the 9038s and other dac amps that it's starting to lose its appeal. At least in my opinion.

But that all sad I hope you enjoy the Meizu pro, as that's what it is all about enjoying music.

At the moment using the meizu dac on bt 92khz with the m1060 as I'm waiting on 2.5 balanced cable to use the m1060 on the 9038s.

But my comment was more for new people looking for a dac amp piggy tail. The non pro is not worth it of you want to use flac files.
 
Jan 22, 2020 at 9:44 PM Post #962 of 6,483
Jan 23, 2020 at 2:07 AM Post #963 of 6,483
That's treu, pro version does this just fine, but the normal Meizu hifi dac doesn't. And the appeal of the Meizu dac is the price to performance ratio.

And the pro version is in price so close to the 9038s and other dac amps that it's starting to lose its appeal. At least in my opinion.

But that all sad I hope you enjoy the Meizu pro, as that's what it is all about enjoying music.

At the moment using the meizu dac on bt 92khz with the m1060 as I'm waiting on 2.5 balanced cable to use the m1060 on the 9038s.

But my comment was more for new people looking for a dac amp piggy tail. The non pro is not worth it of you want to use flac files.

What happens if you try to listen to 44.1?
one reason the 9038s is for some less attractive is simply the format. it is not really for mobile use imo, at least not for me. Also price is still nearly double of pro version.

Edit: I tried my Meizu non-pro again and it worked flawless with UAPP at 44.1khz.
At least for 2 songs in total about 15min.

For my settings: only usb optimization enabled is #2 and buffer size is 600.
I will use the dongle the next days, if I find there are issues I will post again.

I am still very happy with the DAC, it has by far enough power for the HD650 (the Ztella does also power it well btw).
I also like the sound, it is just neutral and works well with all headphones that already have a signature of your liking imo.
So e.g. I have a pair of IEMs that have an extremely wide soundstage and to me they work well together.

E.g. the Ztella does do too much with that pair imo, but for the HD650 on the other hand (which has for an open headphone a rather narrow soundstage) it is a great pair.

For the headphone button hardware compatibility: it turned out that both the ztella and the meizu support them while the ztella seem to have issues occasionally with some of my headphones.

My 50 cents :p

Btw, I would love to try the 9038s (or d when it comes out, also because I always like the ESS sound) but the format is just not practical for me and I already have too much stuff lying around here.

Edit2: And for the MQA discussion: I find the MQA tracks do indeed sound really good. But without doing a/b test I could never tell that the mqa output works better than using bit perfect. Both sounds just great.

Edit3: And to add a point to the discussion Ztella vs Meizu, I found the sound of Ztella for longer sessions definitely more fatigueing but I must admit my ears are sensitive with higher frequencies.
 
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Jan 23, 2020 at 5:45 AM Post #964 of 6,483
No Just get a balanced cable they are cheap to be fair faeaal cost you less than 15 dollar

Got a costum single crystal coper cable for my m1060 for 30 dollar so that's not really a isseu
My headphones - Marshall Major III are not balanced cable "compatibile" I'm affraid...I have two two 3.5 mm jacks on my cable, and a 3,5 socket in headphones. Both sockets powers two headphones at one time (not separate cables fo separate headphones).

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Jan 23, 2020 at 10:04 AM Post #965 of 6,483
What happens if you try to listen to 44.1?
one reason the 9038s is for some less attractive is simply the format. it is not really for mobile use imo, at least not for me. Also price is still nearly double of pro version.
The problem is with the millisecond cutouts.
What is the problem of mobility of 9038S for you? It's fine for me.
 
Jan 23, 2020 at 10:10 AM Post #966 of 6,483
It is probably about finding a flexible cable for pocket use.

At this point I have dreams of finding a multiple strand litz cable (but a very thin guage for it is only for 0s and 1s) for a usb-c to usb-c cable.
 
Jan 23, 2020 at 10:48 AM Post #967 of 6,483
I've changed almost of my cables to balanced. They are better now than the stock cables. They under 8 bucks. Very soft and comfy on your ears. Here you are if you want them.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33032475562.html


Thnx I own a set of those in 3.5 :wink:
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Like the NiceHCK c16 versions a little better tho:
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But best till now I like the Cema cables:
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Show tho:
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But you never have enough cables
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Jan 23, 2020 at 10:52 AM Post #968 of 6,483
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It is probably about finding a flexible cable for pocket use.

At this point I have dreams of finding a multiple strand litz cable (but a very thin guage for it is only for 0s and 1s) for a usb-c to usb-c cable.

I'm going to use this cheap Cema cable for the USB c. Not sure if I'll use 8 or just disassemble and weave 4

Orderd some plugs and housings:
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Jan 23, 2020 at 4:23 PM Post #970 of 6,483
I tried it now again, I really have no issues concerning cutouts with uapp and the above mentioned settings.

Well it's not only uapp for me, also playing flac via fiio m5 or tempotec v1

Guess you have upsample on in UAPP only than it works with no cut outs for me
 
Jan 23, 2020 at 7:21 PM Post #971 of 6,483
I tried it now again, I really have no issues concerning cutouts with uapp and the above mentioned settings.
Either you really lucky or or uapp already is set for upscales. Mine is just terrible.
 
Jan 23, 2020 at 7:22 PM Post #972 of 6,483
Jan 23, 2020 at 7:32 PM Post #973 of 6,483
Same story for me with all these devices.

Yhea mabey we are just not so lucky, used the 9038s all evening and must say it zips through power both v1 and m5 are depleted now zipping troughy phone battery.

That's a good feature of the meizu it doesn't zip power like crazzy.
 
Jan 23, 2020 at 8:50 PM Post #974 of 6,483
That's a good feature of the meizu it doesn't zip power like crazzy.
Do you actually feel the difference that it was upscaled from 44.1? I think you did that too. I mean upscaling.
When I got those I made a test for all my USB DACs. Meizu was taking 3%/an hour of a juice from my 5000mAh battery smartphone in airplane mode and DC01/9038 - 5%/hr.
 
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Jan 23, 2020 at 9:01 PM Post #975 of 6,483
Do you actually feel the difference that it was upscaled from 44.1? I think you did that too.
When I got those I made a test for all my USB DACs. Meizu was taking 3%/an hour of a juice from my 5000mAh battery smartphone in airplane mode and DC01/9038 - 5%/hr.

Meizu takes next to nothing here. But 9038s zips treu the fiio m5 with in 2 hours, and also around 2.5 hours on the v1.

For example the m5 lasts over 5 hours on the meizu dac.

Here the dc01 zips less power than the 9038s. on my phone (don't know the size of the battery) the 9038s takes more than 10% a hour the dc01 less than 6% and the Meizu not noticable so let's say less than 3%

Noted this is with hard to drive headphones like the HE4xx and tin HiFi p1
 
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