Ultrasone edition 10 "THE BUTTERFLY" initial impressions
Feb 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM Post #1,516 of 2,110
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Feb 16, 2011 at 7:33 PM Post #1,517 of 2,110
Interesting. Based on my past experience, I expected the Rudistor to excel with these Ultrasones.
 
Feb 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM Post #1,518 of 2,110


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Interesting. Based on my past experience, I expected the Rudistor to excel with these Ultrasones.

Yes, interesting. I would have thought the same but then these are open and I guess, a little different from past Ultrasone phones. I thought maybe a good tube amp would be a good match. . . 
 
Feb 17, 2011 at 9:13 AM Post #1,519 of 2,110


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Interesting. Based on my past experience, I expected the Rudistor to excel with these Ultrasones.


Yes your experience is correct. My Edition 9 matches great with my RP010B and used to match great too with my RPX33 with I had it.


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Yes, interesting. I would have thought the same but then these are open and I guess, a little different from past Ultrasone phones. I thought maybe a good tube amp would be a good match. . . 



 That's what I thought too but so far the magic has not show up yet.
 
I have never heard other Ultrasone open cans but for what I have read generally Ultrasone open cans are not as good as their closed siblings.
 
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Feb 19, 2011 at 3:07 AM Post #1,520 of 2,110
The WA5, while a great headphone amp (I used to have one), doesn't actually mesh very well with all headphones. It does an amazing job driving the HD800 and T1...a pretty good job with the LCD-2...but I remember trying out both a pair of Thunderpants as well as a Sony R-10 with my maxed out WA5 and they sounded really off in both occasions.  I feel that low impedance headphones don't mate extremely well with the WA5 from my experience, and that might be the case with the Ed-10 possibly.
 
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Using both. My WA5-LE (fully upgraded) and my Rudisor RP010B MkII.
 
 



 
Feb 19, 2011 at 7:46 AM Post #1,521 of 2,110
I just purchased a Yamamoto HA-02 to go along with the Edition 10. I just made a few notes comparing the Edition 10 with my current solid state amp (Burson HA-160) and the new tube amp (Yamamoto HA-02). The Yammy seems to have a fuller sound. The mid range seems to be a tad heavier but sweeter sounding, making the music more enjoyable. The Yammy seems to display more minute details in the music which I did not seemed to pick up with the Burson. The only area that the Burson seems to stand out at this point is the slightly superior bass. I have to qualify that the Yammy's bass is quite excellent too.
 
I am quite surprised that the Yammy is a rather linear sounding amp and the Edition 10 certainly sounded better on it than with the Burson. The Yammy is still in the burn-in stage and the sonic characteristics is still changing. The Yammy has more than sufficient power to drive the Edition 10 with the volume dial set to a quarter of full-range for it to sound just right. IMO, the Yammy matches the Edition 10 quite well. Have a pleasant day ahead!
 
Feb 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM Post #1,522 of 2,110


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The WA5, while a great headphone amp (I used to have one), doesn't actually mesh very well with all headphones. It does an amazing job driving the HD800 and T1...a pretty good job with the LCD-2...but I remember trying out both a pair of Thunderpants as well as a Sony R-10 with my maxed out WA5 and they sounded really off in both occasions.  I feel that low impedance headphones don't mate extremely well with the WA5 from my experience, and that might be the case with the Ed-10 possibly.
 

 


As good as the WA5 is--auditioned it but never owned--if you're lucky enough to grab a Cary SLI80 Signature at Agon in good shape for less than $2K even with the stock tubes...don't hesitate.  It's that good, and your Edition 10s will thank you.
 
Feb 19, 2011 at 7:08 PM Post #1,523 of 2,110


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The WA5, while a great headphone amp (I used to have one), doesn't actually mesh very well with all headphones. It does an amazing job driving the HD800 and T1...a pretty good job with the LCD-2...but I remember trying out both a pair of Thunderpants as well as a Sony R-10 with my maxed out WA5 and they sounded really off in both occasions.  I feel that low impedance headphones don't mate extremely well with the WA5 from my experience, and that might be the case with the Ed-10 possibly.
 

 


Even that my WA5-LE does a great job with all my headphones and it is specially incredible with my T1 and HD800 and can not disagree with you because I actually think the Edition 9 and 10 as well as the LCD-2 do better paired with my RP010B. But even unsung the Rudistor the Edition 10 remains at the bottom of my collection so far. We will see in 5 or 6 more days when they pass the 500 hours.
 
 
 
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Feb 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM Post #1,524 of 2,110
Yeah, sadly there is no one headphones amp that powers all headphones the best unfortunately.  I learned that myself the hard way :wink:  I feel it better to invest in a couple very good amps instead of sinking every penny into a single one hoping that it will be good for any new headphone that comes up down the line.
 
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Even that my WA5-LE does a great job with all my headphones and it is specially incredible with my T1 and HD800 and can not disagree with you because I actually think the Edition 9 and 10 as well as the LCD-2 do better paired with my RP010B. But even unsung the Rudistor the Edition 10 remains at the bottom of my collection so far. We will see in 5 or 6 more days when they pass the 500 hours.
 
 



 
Feb 19, 2011 at 8:31 PM Post #1,525 of 2,110


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Yeah, sadly there is no one headphones amp that powers all headphones the best unfortunately.  I learned that myself the hard way :wink:  I feel it better to invest in a couple very good amps instead of sinking every penny into a single one hoping that it will be good for any new headphone that comes up down the line.
 

 



That is why I have both the WA5-LE and RP010B. I am trying to have a top end tube and SS amplifier to open up my matching options.
 
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Feb 20, 2011 at 9:27 PM Post #1,526 of 2,110
We had a small headphone meet in Denver, NC about 30 minutes north of Charlotte today at the home of fatcat28037/Alex. About 10 people showed. Even with that small number there was quite a bit of equipment to check out.
 
List of equipment:  http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/527692/charlotte-area-mini-meet-february-20
 
The most popular and best liked headphone was the Ultrasone ED 10 (with new pads).
The HE6 was next. Last year's "winner" was the Stax O2Mk2/HeadAmp KGSS combination.
 
Attendees seem to feel that if you have the $$$ go for the ED 10. If you need more bang for the buck try the HE6. Interestingly, all felt the ED 10 was worth the price.
 
Feb 20, 2011 at 9:40 PM Post #1,527 of 2,110


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We had a small headphone meet in Denver, NC about 30 minutes north of Charlotte today at the home of fatcat28037/Alex. About 10 people showed. Even with that small number there was quite a bit of equipment to check out.
 
List of equipment:  http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/527692/charlotte-area-mini-meet-february-20
 
The most popular and best liked headphone was the Ultrasone ED 10 (with new pads).
The HE6 was next. Last year's "winner" was the Stax O2Mk2/HeadAmp KGSS combination.
 
Attendees seem to feel that if you have the $$$ go for the ED 10. If you need more bang for the buck try the HE6. Interestingly, all felt the ED 10 was worth the price.


Wish I could have been there, Danny.  I'm not surprised the Ed10 favored, although I still don't have mine back until sometime next week (fingers crossed).   Any pics?
 
Feb 20, 2011 at 9:48 PM Post #1,529 of 2,110


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Pics are at the following link. The really good looking guy is me.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/539251/denver-nc-mini-meet-february-20-2011

 

 
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Todays meet was attended by fatcat28037, Dannyb, Elk, Alwayswantmore Stevtt, Ken weitzen, dailydoseofdaly and a friend of Dailys. for a small group we had an amazing array of gear, unbalanced, balanced, electrostatic amps and enough different flavor phones to please everyone. There was Sennhieser, Grado and  Beyer along with AKG, there were three K1000 and the queen of the meet was Danny's Ultrasone Edition 10. There was also a variety of IEMs. 

 
My prescription must be kicking in, because at first blush I seemed to have read that "the Queen of the meet was Danny."  Of course your rugged handsomeness and natural charm shining thru those photos were also partly to blame.
 
I have one last question:  what happened to the rest of Amanda?
 

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