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Mar 30, 2025 at 10:44 AM Post #105,137 of 106,624
The Macbeth shell designs are one of my favorites... so cool!

I also really like them but I think we are the some of the few, lol.
 
Mar 30, 2025 at 10:50 AM Post #105,138 of 106,624
Mar 30, 2025 at 11:10 AM Post #105,139 of 106,624
I had the three of these on my desk at once during their respective AudioGeek EU tours: the CraftEars Omnium ($2.7k), Letshuoer Cadenza 12 2024($2k), and Dunu Glacier ($1.4k), all driven with using my Chord Mojo, Qudelix 5k, and Topping G5. So, I wanted to share a comparison between the three (full impressions for each linked above, specs in the table below).
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The Cadenza 12's tuning is great - offering exceptional clarity, smoothness, and midbass punch. It presents vocals more intimately and with greater weight than the Omnium or Glacier. Detail retrieval and stereo separation are outstanding, with strings, vocals, and cymbals rendered with precision. Cymbals come slightly forward in the mix. However, it's not a subbass monster and doesn't quite scratch that itch for me. When listening to metal, the double bass is well articulated, but some might find the overall presentation too relaxed. The C12 isn't forgiving of poor recordings - you hear the noise floor clearly, though this transparency provides an excellent sense of space.

The Glacier definitely delivers on subbass rumble with better treble decay than the others - cymbal strikes sustain more naturally, less "tss tss." While its bass feels even more rumbly than the C12, it's less controlled and can be somewhat boomy. The mids are noticeably thinner. It's fun with e.g. pop, electropop and hip-hop. It's like turning the Binary Acoustics Chopin tuning up to 11 with more visceral bass and air. The metal build is premium but a bit heavy.

The Omnium strikes an excellent balance between the two, offering better subbass extension than the C12 while maintaining better midrange presence than the Glacier. Its razor-sharp bass reproduction and excellent separation throughout the frequency range make it stand out. Despite having large shells, I found them the most comfortable of the three, as the longer stems prevent the body from contacting other parts of my ear.

After comparing all three directly, I preferred the Omnium's tuning for its versatility and technical performance, though the C12 excels with vocal presentations and the Glacier delivers the most fun, bass-heavy experience. Ominum would be my pick of the three (sadly, the most expensive 😅), but I can see all three suiting particular preferences.

I have to say though, the competition from sets under 1k USD is really tough! I've been really enjoying things like Kiwi Ears Punch ($400), IO Volare ($600), and TSMR Shock ($600), and they bring a lot to the table for a fraction of the price.

Driver UnitsCraft Ears Omnium
1 x 9.2 mm dynamic driver + 1 x 10 mm planar magnetic driver + 5 balanced armature drivers
Letshuoer Cadenza 12 (2024)
1 x 10 mm LCS Kevlar dynamic driver + 11 balanced armature drivers (7 Sonion + 4 Knowles)
Dunu Glacier
1 DD + 4 BA + 4 EST
Crossover6-way6-way4-way
SensitivityNot provided110 dB/mW (±1%)109 dB/mW @ 1kHz
Impedance12 Ω ±0.8 Ω (10 Hz-20 kHz)16 Ω ±1%43 Ω at 1 kHz
Cost (USD)$2700$2000 USD$1350 USD
 
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Mar 30, 2025 at 11:25 AM Post #105,140 of 106,624
Just want to show some love for these amazing IEMs. No matter how many different IEMs pass through my hands, it feels like the Jewel will outlast them all. With the right amp and cable, they seem to have endless potential. There’s something special about them that makes me reach for them more than anything else on my desk. Love them💙
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Mar 30, 2025 at 11:53 AM Post #105,141 of 106,624
I am such a small fry compared to many here... but I see that my love of Ambition and Centurion hasn't gone unnoticed. :blush:
I don't know how many of the Coolers have been exposed to that
Dude, bear with us, it was worse than a sticky note 😝

drftr
I guess partially?
TBF, I didn't post much about Macbeth or Ambition in this thread, it was mostly elsewhere. :p
Totally a "you're the ones stuck here with me" moment brought to you by warren
🤯 In that case I should've written my post in bold. Poor guys...

drftr
No Joop Noooooooooo
Just want to show some love for these amazing IEMs. No matter how many different IEMs pass through my hands, it feels like the Jewel will outlast them all. With the right amp and cable, they seem to have endless potential. There’s something special about them that makes me reach for them more than anything else on my desk. Love them💙
Hey hey if you like the Jewel, The Erebus is even better 😉
 
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Mar 30, 2025 at 12:14 PM Post #105,142 of 106,624
👆 I am part of that club too. :)
Yeah me, too - unexpectedly. Didn't think I would but I find them quite pleasing to the eye and to the touch
 
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Mar 30, 2025 at 12:24 PM Post #105,143 of 106,624
I’m late to Thieaudio, the Oracle MKIII is the first set I’ve spent proper time with outside of brief encounters with others at meet ups etc.

I don’t know what I was expecting, but I’m incredibly impressed, and exceeded the expectations that I wasn’t sure of 😂 - anyway, wonderful balance of sheer musicality with very decent technical capabilities… the sort of set to properly immerse yourself in the music and just enjoy. No matter what genre I choose, they seem to have fantastic synergy and many goosebumps moments too.

Excellent sub bass, clear mids with a touch of warmth, great upper mids extension to really capture emotion, crisp and ethereal treble - exactly how I love this region with ESTs. The overall presentation is wonderfully cohesive and incredibly engaging.

Super impressed, which of course now means I’m hungry to try more from Thieaudio… especially considering this set at around $600 is a mid tier offering - very eager to try Valhalla!

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Mar 30, 2025 at 1:39 PM Post #105,146 of 106,624
Cayin has announced the newest motherboard of N6iii to be R2R. No date just yet.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cay...udio-motherboard.974249/page-38#post-18633458

I'd say @Deezel177 desperately needs to investigate the situation at CJ SG 🤭

drftr

Yes, and also an urgent requirement to swing by the DITA booth and try Ventura - @Deezel177 🙏

Speaking of CanJam - I absolutely have to scratch that itch, in the hobby an unforgivable amount of time and have not set foot in one! Seriously considering Singapore for next year, before I hit a milestone age - and no for those of you guessing, it’s not 21 🤪
 
Mar 30, 2025 at 2:42 PM Post #105,147 of 106,624
I agree that Rival is an overlooked gem. But for reasons you haven't mentioned, reasons which can't be addressed in a demo, but only by an owner.

Rival is like Macbeth with DDs (okay I said it). Their tunings are similar if their end results aren't. But Rival has a trick up its sleeve for the tinkerer. That is, a bass dial with which you can "dial" in your exact preference, and acoustic dampers for both mids and uppers which allow you to alter the stock tuning, making it warmer, more neutral, or brighter, and basshead, treblehead or balanced. The options are, far and away, wider than anything you can do with cables or tips, and all these things are included with Rival for no additional cost.
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Bass Dial in 10:00 position
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Green damper to warm the mids up, sunken grey damper for uppers (the max).

I think it makes Rival a pretty compelling TOTL in 2025. And then, like with Macbeth, Penon offered up an upgrade cable!! But thankfully this one was neither limited nor near the same cost as the IEM itself.
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I'm not saying Rival outperforms Macbeth on an Ambition cable. But for a lesser cost, it's in the same stratosphere for TOTL at this moment without a doubt, and for tinkerers, there's a lot to discover in Rival that will impress.
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I feel pretty lucky to have both ❤️ and they are both worthy of investigation for anyone looking for the peak.

Edit: both Rival and Macbeth are guilty of sound leakage due to the vents required for Sonion BCD. It's not just these 2.
Time to find out what the filters do as an owner, order being placed this coming week with Totem Ultra. I'll just manage the leakage with sensible volume control.

Been a while since I've got excited by a new IEM...
 
Mar 30, 2025 at 3:35 PM Post #105,148 of 106,624
I’m late to Thieaudio, the Oracle MKIII is the first set I’ve spent proper time with outside of brief encounters with others at meet ups etc.

I don’t know what I was expecting, but I’m incredibly impressed, and exceeded the expectations that I wasn’t sure of 😂 - anyway, wonderful balance of sheer musicality with very decent technical capabilities… the sort of set to properly immerse yourself in the music and just enjoy. No matter what genre I choose, they seem to have fantastic synergy and many goosebumps moments too.

Excellent sub bass, clear mids with a touch of warmth, great upper mids extension to really capture emotion, crisp and ethereal treble - exactly how I love this region with ESTs. The overall presentation is wonderfully cohesive and incredibly engaging.

Super impressed, which of course now means I’m hungry to try more from Thieaudio… especially considering this set at around $600 is a mid tier offering - very eager to try Valhalla!

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Yeah, the <$1000 sets are getting incredible these days. Very good time to be into IEMs 🤩
 
Mar 30, 2025 at 3:48 PM Post #105,149 of 106,624
Well, yes... But that's mostly because it's light on lower mids and that leads to clean mids. Onyx by contrast has loads of lower mids and unless you're the best IEM in the world that relatively cloggs up the mids, creating a much warmer sensation. So although I totally agree with what you write, for me the "somehow" is not a surprise. Perhaps I'm misinterpretating you?


drftr

What surprised me, and caught me off guard > bass levels are similar to Onyx but has a bit more decay, entering mids and treble the transient attack is faster so you have this unique combination. Onyx everything is fast.
 
Mar 30, 2025 at 4:14 PM Post #105,150 of 106,624
I’m late to Thieaudio, the Oracle MKIII is the first set I’ve spent proper time with outside of brief encounters with others at meet ups etc.

I don’t know what I was expecting, but I’m incredibly impressed, and exceeded the expectations that I wasn’t sure of 😂 - anyway, wonderful balance of sheer musicality with very decent technical capabilities… the sort of set to properly immerse yourself in the music and just enjoy. No matter what genre I choose, they seem to have fantastic synergy and many goosebumps moments too.

Excellent sub bass, clear mids with a touch of warmth, great upper mids extension to really capture emotion, crisp and ethereal treble - exactly how I love this region with ESTs. The overall presentation is wonderfully cohesive and incredibly engaging.

Super impressed, which of course now means I’m hungry to try more from Thieaudio… especially considering this set at around $600 is a mid tier offering - very eager to try Valhalla!

Didn't like it. I felt for the price, it was weaker than some of my cheaper IEMs, so I sold it. Bass is lifeless, if quick and resolving (it is), and the treble, while well extended and shimmery (like I usually love), has a bit of off-tonality and paper thinness. It's not a very natural sounding top end. Midrange was good. Transparent and with incisiveness. Intimate soundstage. Nothing to write home about. But that's my experience. The guy I sold them to LOVES THEM. So win win.

@darveniza - Love my iFi Go Link Max. So unassuming, but with a BIG SOUND. Clean, crisp, and spacious. No complaints.
 
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