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Jul 17, 2023 at 11:45 PM Post #61,501 of 90,348
Always nice to see you drop in Antman-- congrats on attaining your endgame! Would be great to see you in SoCal this year :)
if i am not in germany/austria for work, then i will plan to go this year finally. hopefully will find out what my work travel plans look like more in the next few weeks.
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 12:44 AM Post #61,502 of 90,348
D Audio’s F. Heart and Fire Phoenix:

I am not sure if you are all aware of this hidden gem. Somewhere in the streets of Hong Kong, Mr. D is producing these wonderful IEMs. I had a chance to audition two IEMs, both single DDs.

F. Heart:
This is more of a v-shaped IEM. For close to $500, the bass is just incredibly well done. The mids are not as forward and open as I would like, so this did not create a lasting impression. For the price it’s being offered, it is just a steal. One of the best basses on an entry-level IEM It will surely satiate the hunger of bassheads.

Fire Phoenix:
Now this is something amazing. It has some different kind of DD and the bass is very sorted on it. The bass does not get boomy and wonky but rather has the slams and fastness someone looks for. The mids is done amazingly well. The sound signature is more of a U-shape. I fell in love with the Fire Phoenix instantly - love at first sight. This one is priced a little above $1,000, which is quite a great price for the IEM. Give this IEM a good chain, and it will just be a different monster. It can surely touch the levels of TOTL IEMs.

I am going to explore more of Mr. D’s magic. He has supposedly some really good hybrid iems and a better version of Fire Phoenix (Dark Phoenix) as well.

Let me know if anyone has tried the line-up from D Audio.

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Fire Phoenix

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Fire Phoenix and F. Heart​
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 2:53 AM Post #61,503 of 90,348
D Audio’s F. Heart and Fire Phoenix:

I am not sure if you are all aware of this hidden gem. Somewhere in the streets of Hong Kong, Mr. D is producing these wonderful IEMs. I had a chance to audition two IEMs, both single DDs.

F. Heart:
This is more of a v-shaped IEM. For close to $500, the bass is just incredibly well done. The mids are not as forward and open as I would like, so this did not create a lasting impression. For the price it’s being offered, it is just a steal. One of the best basses on an entry-level IEM It will surely satiate the hunger of bassheads.

Fire Phoenix:
Now this is something amazing. It has some different kind of DD and the bass is very sorted on it. The bass does not get boomy and wonky but rather has the slams and fastness someone looks for. The mids is done amazingly well. The sound signature is more of a U-shape. I fell in love with the Fire Phoenix instantly - love at first sight. This one is priced a little above $1,000, which is quite a great price for the IEM. Give this IEM a good chain, and it will just be a different monster. It can surely touch the levels of TOTL IEMs.
Interest Piqued. Which street ? Any link for further info ?
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 2:58 AM Post #61,504 of 90,348
Jul 18, 2023 at 4:53 AM Post #61,505 of 90,348
It is called synesthesia.
Yep, in the meantime I have been researching for a VERY long time. Keywords: "SS vs CU". Quite a few matching results actually came up and I was able to form a good opinion. The difference is said to be minimal, even very subtle, but it is said to be foreboding. Generally, the SS is considered the allarounder and the CU is considered the vocal specialist. Since I generally listen to electronic in all derivatives, I think the SS is ideal for me; further, I like more the idea to have something more neutral-warmish and thus universal. So this post sums it up pretty well:

"If you only listen to acoustic music / vocal heavy music or all you want to vocal. Then you can go all-in and get CU.
If you listening to a large variety of music, you want detail from all the background instruments then SS is the safer pick." https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-tol-a-k-dap-the-ak-ultima-sp1000.850061/post-13891657

Even better, I found a really great (!!) report by Alex (@twister6) not only on this, but also about the question how there is a sound difference between firmware versions analysed there: https://twister6.com/2018/04/09/ak-sp1000-ss-vs-cu/ As for me, I do not exclude that the sound can be (slightly) changed with the firmware update. Why not?
I wanted to move the discussion away from the SP3000 thread to here.

When I mentioned synesthesia, I was actually quite serious, because about 4 to 5% percent of the population is believed to have some form of synesthesia. If you think about it, it is actually a wonder that the number is that low, as we don't have separate brains for different senses. Our brain is central in processing all perception from all senses and it is one big interwoven and interconnected web of compartmentalised neurons. It is just natural that they are influential on each other at some level, although not as apparent as in people that see colors for different numbers, letters etc.

So when people hear (or sense) things that are technically and biologically not possible, it is still very much possible that processing part of the brain specific to hearing is really perceiving something. In the end, what we perceive with one sense can easily put our body in some state (like alert mode) that would alter the sensitivity of our senses and body chemicals, or let's say, "EQ our perception". It is possible that seeing shiny or dull things EQ rest of our senses differently.
 
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Jul 18, 2023 at 5:09 AM Post #61,506 of 90,348
I wanted to move the discussion away from the SP3000 thread to here.

When I mentioned synesthesia, I was actually quite serious, because about 4 to 5% percent of the population is believed to have some form of synesthesia. If you think about it, it is actually a wonder that the number is that low, as we don't have separate brains for different senses. Our brain is central in processing all perception from all senses and it is one big interwoven and interconnected web of compartmentalised neurons. It is just natural that they are influential on each other at some level, although not as apparent as in people that see colors for different numbers, letters etc.

So when people hear (or sense) things that are technically and biologically not possible, it is still very much possible that processing part of the brain specific to hearing is really perceiving something. In the end, what we perceive with one sense can easily put our body in some state (like alert mode) that would alter the sensitivity of our senses and body chemicals, or let's say, "EQ our perception". It is possible that seeing shiny or dull things EQ rest of our senses differently.
i am not denying this possibility but at the end of the day, what matters and counts is one’s own perception of things (for him/her) even if it’s placebo. and that in itself is a wonder.
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 5:23 AM Post #61,507 of 90,348
i am not denying this possibility but at the end of the day, what matters and counts is one’s own perception of things (for him/her) even if it’s placebo. and that in itself is a wonder.
I agree with you. I used to be a hardliner on such issues due to my technical background but I accepted (or accepting) to chill down. One thing that still pokes me though, when some company/person exploits this and sells a 10€ product for 1000€ with a lot of lies attached to it, but in such cases my reaction is against those manipulations and manipulators rather than the people that buy them, as people don't like to be criticised for the hard earned money they spend and such critics take us often nowhere.
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 6:41 AM Post #61,508 of 90,348
One thing that still pokes me though, when some company/person exploits this and sells a 10€ product for 1000€ with a lot of lies attached to it
that’s unfortunately in our nature. it’s has been since the beginnings, and it will always be.
that said the people (including myself) sometimes buy the lies. cuz they’re good lies and very well presented, and there’s a feel good factor attached to it. so i believe being a hardliner only brings stress and unhappiness. i think it’s best to accept things for what they are and try to find joy in this f’d-up world.
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 6:51 AM Post #61,509 of 90,348
It's been a minute since I've chatted on this thread, but I've been keeping tabs every once in a while. That said, I got my "end game" IEM finally!

Now I need a portable source with a huge battery haha, as these drain batteries much faster than anything I've seen.




First Impressions:
It's tuned almost perfectly to my tastes, neutral-ish u-shaped balance. Outstanding resolution, hearing things I never heard before in recordings. Great imaging and separation, and the bass is splendid for BAs. Just very well done, and meets my overhyped expectations. Also the fit is practically CIEM for me. I had tested a 3D printed mockup of the real shells prior to buying and the first thing I noticed was they looked almost identical to my Custom Hidition Viento. Needless to say, these fit like a glove for me and easily the most comfortable Universal IEMs I've worn.

Thanks Subtonic for making these exactly for me (and taking my money). :)

i think i might get one of these letting go of my traillii or mentor. but i need to really hear from coolers who own(ed) both (or all 3) for how they compare before jumping into it.

that said upcoming elysian totl (dio?) doesn’t make things any easier. any ideas for its release ?
 
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Jul 18, 2023 at 11:06 AM Post #61,511 of 90,348
I am looking for a BT IEM dongle like ifi GO Pod (or a TWS with good sound) that has the possibility of multiple client profiles, so that I don't have to do BT pairing again and again. I would like to use it for my meetings and listening to music on my computer and if a call arrives from the mobile phone, it should be possible to press a button and it should disconnect from the computer and connect with my mobile phone. Logitech devices, for example, support a similar use case supporting multiple computers (which is also a use case for me). That is, the device keeps multiple pairing profiles stored instead of deleting the previous one with a new pairing, and switches between them, for example, with a double tap. I have the same problem when I sometimes switch to Windows for playing a game, and then go back to Linux for daily stuff and work. With most BT devices, everytime I do the switch, I need to pair again.

Any ideas?
 
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Jul 18, 2023 at 11:34 AM Post #61,512 of 90,348
Synergy time. What is your current favorite dap+iem+cable+eartip combo?
LP P6 Pro+Trifecta+Centurion+Sedna Light Wide Bore

LP P6 Pro+Rn6+Orpheus+Sedna Elastics
 
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Jul 18, 2023 at 11:36 AM Post #61,513 of 90,348
Synergy time. What is your current favorite dap+iem+cable+eartip combo?
Hiby RS6 > Liquid Link Venom > Annihilator 2021 Spinfit CP100
Hiby RS6 > Atalune Nova > Helios SE > Stock Wide bore tips
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 11:39 AM Post #61,514 of 90,348
I am looking for a BT IEM dongle like ifi GO Pod (or a TWS with good sound) that has the possibility of multiple client profiles, so that I don't have to do BT pairing again and again. I would like to use it for my meetings and listening to music on my computer and if a call arrives from the mobile phone, it should be possible to press a button and it should disconnect from the computer and connect with my mobile phone. Logitech devices, for example, support a similar use case supporting multiple computers (which is also a use case for me). That is, the device keeps multiple pairing profiles stored instead of deleting the previous one with a new pairing, and switches between them, for example, with a double tap. I have the same problem when I sometimes switch to Windows for playing a game, and then go back to Linux for daily stuff and work. With most BT devices, everytime I do the switch, I need to pair again.

Any ideas?
The go pods sort of work this way for me when I am using them. They don't have to re pair, but they do have to reconnect whenever I switch devices. IE at work I go from my computer and then when I use my phone I have to go into settings and reconnect. It doesn't require re pairing though and seems to always connect to the last used device and if it's not available it will go in order of previously used. I'm still waiting for a device that can connect to multiple devices and then switch based on playback, but I don't know if that exists.
 
Jul 18, 2023 at 11:49 AM Post #61,515 of 90,348
The go pods sort of work this way for me when I am using them. They don't have to re pair, but they do have to reconnect whenever I switch devices. IE at work I go from my computer and then when I use my phone I have to go into settings and reconnect. It doesn't require re pairing though and seems to always connect to the last used device and if it's not available it will go in order of previously used. I'm still waiting for a device that can connect to multiple devices and then switch based on playback, but I don't know if that exists.
Thanks, that sounds good. I don't think maintaining parallel connections would be an option for such small devices, but at least not having to repair is already good. Of course, I would love to have the option to switch connection by tapping on the dongle rather than going into the menus of the mobile phone during an incoming call - but I am not sure if that is possible with the recent BT protocols.
 

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