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Sep 25, 2022 at 11:11 PM Post #36,392 of 91,391
As a person who listens to a lot of Jpop, I really dislike those so-called Asian tunings - bright and uppermids/lower treble forward.

Also
1. Phonix
2. XE6
3. EXT
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:20 PM Post #36,393 of 91,391
Looks more like prosciutto to me :)
I'll gladly wait for the vegetarian version!

Absolutely! Maybe at some early point in IEM history, Japanese market might have been majority anime fans that might have led to this stereotype. There has always been hardcore Jazz and classical audiophiles there too. I'm certain the iem/hp audience is much broader than it used to be. Given the highly trained listening skills of cooler crowd, this group is way past those broad categorization. I think most appreciates different aspects and improvements which is cool.
Could it be that there is much more commercial pressure in Asia because there's many more big brands around, which may lead to a rather excessive tuning to quickly outshine other competitors during a short comparison? We all know that will be counter productive in the long term but then the commercial damage is done. The US and Europe having smaller markets with possibly a larger percentage of "critical listeners" would mean they have to focus on a more modest tuning (which in these lands is often seen as higher quality) to survive in their own regions. Adding the 2 together then it suddenly would make sense; at least from a commercial point of view.

drftr
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:34 PM Post #36,394 of 91,391
1) Traillii x26

2) Xe6 x16
3) Jewel x14
4) Indigo x13
5) Odyssey x8
6) Viking Ragnar x6
7) Annihilator x6
8) Supermoon x6
9) EXT x6
10) Odin x6
11) Evo x6
12) Szalayi x5
13) IER Z1R x5
___________________________________

14) Multiverse Mentor x4
15) Mason FS x4
16) Phönix x4
17) TZ700 x3
18) X x3
19) a/u12t x2
20) HS2000MX x2
21) IE 600 x2
22) Diva x2
23) Kublai Khan x2
24) Trifecta x2
25) Turi Ti x2
26) Penon Legend x2
27) Red Halo x2
28) Kr5 x2
29) Pathfinder x2
30) Andromeda x2
31) Thunder x2
32) Fourte x2
33) ISN EST50 x2
34) u18s x2
35) Solaris SE x2


36) VE8
37) Equinox
38) F-Audio Mezzo
39) Zen Pro
40) Legend X
41) Elysium
42) Infinity MK2
43) Twilight
44) Prelude
45) IE100
46) Sultan
47) Trio
48) MAD24
49) LCDi4
50) Penon Volt
51) Solaris OG
52) Anima
53) Wraith
54) Fourte Noir
55) S12
56) Turii
57) Variations
58) Duo
59) Blessing 2 Dusk
60) Fiio FD5
61) V16 Divinity
62) Vesna
63) Jolene
64) KSE 1500
65) Storm
66) Mason 2
67) u18t
68) Fusang

Survey question: How many of the above 68 IEMs have you heard? 43 for me...so ~2/3 of them.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:37 PM Post #36,395 of 91,391
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:40 PM Post #36,398 of 91,391
33, which almost all of them I bought. 😵‍💫

12 of mine were from CanJam alone-- prior to that I would have been at about the same number.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:40 PM Post #36,399 of 91,391
Heard 32 from the list. Only bought 6.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:45 PM Post #36,401 of 91,391
Survey question: How many of the above 68 IEMs have you heard? 43 for me...so ~2/3 of them.
Only 19 for me - booh...

We should buy all of them for use around the watercooler (or the top 20 or so). Like everyone sponsoring and then getting their share of demo time. Rinse and repeat for new top models that are added during the year. I've been playing with the idea of setting up a mini business with a similar thought for a while now. It would enable everyone to get access to new models where only transport costs plus a minimal fee would be paid by the customer. A bit like AudioTiers but on steroids and for all brands that want to participate.

drftr
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:48 PM Post #36,402 of 91,391
1) Traillii x26

2) Xe6 x16
3) Jewel x14
4) Indigo x13
5) Odyssey x8
6) Viking Ragnar x6
7) Annihilator x6
8) Supermoon x6
9) EXT x6
10) Odin x6
11) Evo x6
12) Szalayi x5
13) IER Z1R x5
___________________________________

14) Multiverse Mentor x4
15) Mason FS x4
16) Phönix x4
17) TZ700 x3
18) X x3
19) a/u12t x2
20) HS2000MX x2
21) IE 600 x2
22) Diva x2
23) Kublai Khan x2
24) Trifecta x2
25) Turi Ti x2
26) Penon Legend x2
27) Red Halo x2
28) Kr5 x2
29) Pathfinder x2
30) Andromeda x2
31) Thunder x2
32) Fourte x2
33) ISN EST50 x2
34) u18s x2
35) Solaris SE x2


36) VE8
37) Equinox
38) F-Audio Mezzo
39) Zen Pro
40) Legend X
41) Elysium
42) Infinity MK2
43) Twilight
44) Prelude
45) IE100
46) Sultan
47) Trio
48) MAD24
49) LCDi4
50) Penon Volt
51) Solaris OG
52) Anima
53) Wraith
54) Fourte Noir
55) S12
56) Turii
57) Variations
58) Duo
59) Blessing 2 Dusk
60) Fiio FD5
61) V16 Divinity
62) Vesna
63) Jolene
64) KSE 1500
65) Storm
66) Mason 2
67) u18t
68) Fusang

Survey question: How many of the above 68 IEMs have you heard? 43 for me...so ~2/3 of them.
Only 15/63 for me, I actually waste half of time on my two days in CanJam SoCal due to my schedule, wished I could have stayed longer and demo more.
 
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Sep 25, 2022 at 11:50 PM Post #36,403 of 91,391
Tnx for that! Will have a look.

When I saw the word "spatial" I suddenly thought about perhaps our ear canals being differently shaped and amplifying different frequencies as well. It's not a secret that skulls of, say, Americans/Europeans vs Indians vs Mongoloid people are differently shaped, so why wouldn't there be consequences for the size and shape of the ear canal too? Would be strange if there weren't any. Just a thought and it may not matter at all.

drftr
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:56 PM Post #36,404 of 91,391
Sep 25, 2022 at 11:57 PM Post #36,405 of 91,391
1) Traillii x26

2) Xe6 x16
3) Jewel x14
4) Indigo x13
5) Odyssey x8
6) Viking Ragnar x6
7) Annihilator x6
8) Supermoon x6
9) EXT x6
10) Odin x6
11) Evo x6
12) Szalayi x5
13) IER Z1R x5
___________________________________

14) Multiverse Mentor x4
15) Mason FS x4
16) Phönix x4
17) TZ700 x3
18) X x3
19) a/u12t x2
20) HS2000MX x2
21) IE 600 x2
22) Diva x2
23) Kublai Khan x2
24) Trifecta x2
25) Turi Ti x2
26) Penon Legend x2
27) Red Halo x2
28) Kr5 x2
29) Pathfinder x2
30) Andromeda x2
31) Thunder x2
32) Fourte x2
33) ISN EST50 x2
34) u18s x2
35) Solaris SE x2


36) VE8
37) Equinox
38) F-Audio Mezzo
39) Zen Pro
40) Legend X
41) Elysium
42) Infinity MK2
43) Twilight
44) Prelude
45) IE100
46) Sultan
47) Trio
48) MAD24
49) LCDi4
50) Penon Volt
51) Solaris OG
52) Anima
53) Wraith
54) Fourte Noir
55) S12
56) Turii
57) Variations
58) Duo
59) Blessing 2 Dusk
60) Fiio FD5
61) V16 Divinity
62) Vesna
63) Jolene
64) KSE 1500
65) Storm
66) Mason 2
67) u18t
68) Fusang

Survey question: How many of the above 68 IEMs have you heard? 43 for me...so ~2/3 of them.
30/68 for me top 20/35 top 10/13.
 

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