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Apr 25, 2022 at 8:21 PM Post #22,832 of 87,690
Taking a pause from IEM with this tube galore 😁:

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Now back to Xe6 and N8ii!! This pairing might not be the most resolving, but it does have its own charm!

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May I please ask what cable is this? Thanks! And I think it’s thicker than Orph :)
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 8:22 PM Post #22,833 of 87,690
I am hoping Xe6 will be the next contender that can play in all 3 categories. Not a generalist, but a specialist that wears different hats. That would be most welcome.
When will you demo the XE6, curious to see if it does what you hope for. Kind of a tall order.

Bass detail is the only thing about the XE6 that sometimes I wish was more. Thummim beats the XE6 on that front, slightly. The other criticism people stated had to do with the lower mids becoming a bit lost. I do not hear that, I just hear the same volume level in the bass as the lower mids which is very energetic. No clear desernable line actually. I find the treble really nice and detailed not overdone and well balanced to all that lower energy.

With the XE6 I have been enjoying all of my library which includes all the genres you talked about except I do not listen to anything containing rap or hip hop.
 
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Apr 25, 2022 at 8:26 PM Post #22,834 of 87,690
Seems to be the going thing these days. The thicker the better. 😁
It actually does. The larger the gauge, the less resistance. But of course it might not be suitable for on-the-go use. It’s more for a stationary listening session.

May I please ask what cable is this? Thanks! And I think it’s thicker than Orph :)
It’s Norne Silvergarde S4 IEM version. The original S4 is intended for headphones and I asked Trevor to make a customized version for IEMs. The size is 4x19 AWG, pure silver.
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 8:28 PM Post #22,835 of 87,690
It actually does. The larger the gauge, the less resistance. But of course it might not be suitable for on-the-go use. It’s more for a stationary listening session.


It’s Norne Silvergarde S4 IEM version. The original S4 is intended for headphones and I asked Trevor to make a customized version for IEMs. The size is 4x19 AWG, pure silver.
Thank you 😊 I like the design
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 8:36 PM Post #22,836 of 87,690
I listen to selected artists in most genre's except country and the blues (and polka, but I am not ruling out polka)
I have some alterations on the genre sets you listed as I don't like a lot of bass in my metal. Think small club vs. stadium. And that removes the funk and EDM from the same categories you have them listed.

Genre 1 use case: Pop, Hip-hop, Electronica, Ambient, Choir, Symphony, Hi DR rock and metal can work here.
IEM wants - big stage, technical richness, dynamism, extension, biggest and richest of bass.
Fourte Noir holds this for now. A Legend variant would fracture it into multiple iem requirements, but could work. Due to Noir's unique tuning, nothing may challenge it directly. I'll just take one in addition to, thank you. Sorry new 3 iem rule, already moved to 4.

Genre 2 use case: Jazz, Classical, some rock, some metal, acoustic, brass, piano, vibes, harp, etc. Anything with textured delivery requirements.
IEM wants - timbral accuracy, treble extension, less bass focus to keep it from getting muddy but not vacant, tinge of analog warmth, decently heavy note weight.
The single dynamic driver Eden, the "titan of timbral texture" holds this, with no other heard from contenders so far. EXT got in the ballpark.

Genre 3 use case: All punk, rock, and metal genre's. Some indie vocal based hiphop and even some earlier and selected electronica.
IEM wants - timbral accuracy, coherence, wide stage, layering, proper note weight (my opinion of what that is anyway), tons of PRaT (for lack of a better description) midrange focus. Bass can be slightly elevated, but not a mud room shelf. Just don't be there all the time.
Softears Turii. Another single DD.
The energy and tonality of Turii on these recordings and how it can blend into how I imagine playback in the studio for all the decades worth of material is pretty great. I am constantly hit with "Yes, that's how I would expect playback equipment of that decade to sound in the studio" It just takes on the role you play though it. Its a fantastic reference chameleon for the harder rock genre's with a bit of its own added air and flavor (or lack of) It just gets the tonality of open back speaker cabs on fire like no other I've heard yet. And with the N8ii, and using the sharp DAC filter, it can even handle the extremest of extreme metal. And hearing that all through one DD is pure bliss. Perfect coherence. The N6ii and AR-M2 previously didn't allow Turii to flex in this way.
Turii doesn't have amazing treble, which suits its use case, but puts it in the backseat for a lot of folks with differing libraries and brings its awesomeness into perspective.
Thanks for asking. It allowed me to over-post about this. :beerchug:
I am hoping Xe6 will be the next contender that can play in all 3 categories. Not a generalist, but a specialist that wears different hats. That would be most welcome.
Thanks for the detailed reply. Very helpful to hear what attributes others look for in IEMs in relation to specific music genres.

Sounds like you’ve got your bases well covered with the Noir, Eden and Turii. I have limited experience with single DD IEMs and would really like to hear a competent, coherent and well tuned set like the Turii. The Eden’s timbral texture sounds intoxicating. The EXT is probably the best I’ve heard in terms of timbre and I think this is in large part to the DD serving up the mids.

I definitely generalized a bit on my “wants” sections. For example, I don’t want ALL of the bass for metal and rock as that can muddy things up too much for my tastes. The EVO was an absolute riot with metal, double bass kicks were grin inducing, but it’s not an IEM I’d use as my go-to for the genre.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the XE6 once you’ve had a chance to hear it!
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 8:55 PM Post #22,838 of 87,690
Hi there, any comparisons with the usual suspects, anything from PWA, EA, etc, that you can share? Thanks.
Sadly no. The usual suspects tend to use smaller gauge wires and the pricing tend to be too extravagant for their TOTLs so I'm not really keen on trying them out.
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 8:56 PM Post #22,839 of 87,690
Just got a TPU case for the new Walkman and I can’t stop staring at it lol. So pretty 😍

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Apr 25, 2022 at 8:57 PM Post #22,840 of 87,690
Just got a TPU case for the new Walkman and I can’t stop staring at it lol. So pretty 😍

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I still like it naked and raw! 😁
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 9:06 PM Post #22,843 of 87,690
Just got a TPU case for the new Walkman and I can’t stop staring at it lol. So pretty 😍

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May I pls know where you bought this from? Amazon jp seems to not have any stock at the moment. Thanks :wink:
 
Apr 25, 2022 at 9:15 PM Post #22,845 of 87,690
I like ‘em thick! 😁 Well I’ve never seen Orpheus in real life so I have no clue whether it’s thicker or not.
I love thick cables, too. I have a Norne Silvergarde S4 for my Focal Utopia headphones. It is definitely thicker than Orpheus. No way I use that cable with an IEM.

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