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The Stax Thread III

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by currawong, Aug 20, 2013.
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  1. wink
    Even though I have the SR-007, SR-009, ESP950, and sundry Lambdas, the HE60 is the most addictive.

    Not having heard the Orpheus side by side with my gear, The three times I have heard them, the Orpheus are still my most memorable headphone experiences.
    I have heard the HE-1 and don't think it matches my topline electrostatics on either the KGSSHV or KGSSHV Carbon.
    As usual, YMMV.......:ksc75smile:
     
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  2. Mheat122134
    Sorry for asking again but I’d like to know soon. Looking to get an older amp (pre 2000) from Japan but many sellers do not include the power cable, would any home appliance cable be fine?
     
  3. walakalulu
    I think you can only rank headphones when using the same dac, amp and cables. I recently changed energiser from KGST to GKGG and found that I needed to change the mains cable to extract the best from it.
     
  4. phaeton70
    agree, even if I must say that also some dynamic/ortho totl hps are really very sensitive to the dac/amplifier gears you put in front of them... Utopia can sound lifelessly with the wrong gears or magically with the right ones for example....
    back to ES, agree they are much more sensitive to the setup, I had a BHSE driving a 009 for a period, and IMHO it was on par with the Utopia driven by a totl 300B ampli (apart the soundstage, Utopia is IMHO genetically unable to reproduce a big soundstage), actually Utopia was slightly better in some parameters.
    going from the BHSE to the GG situation has changed, and now 009 is back to her throne, the undisputed queen of hps :L3000:

    of course the above is only IMVHO :slight_smile:
     
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  5. nemomec

    I see the ranking a little bit different after owning most of the above models:

    1. Stax SR-009/BK (ultraprecise, scales extrem with better gear)
    2. Sennheiser HE-90 (for classic music very good for other music sometimes less precise/controlled)
    3. Stax SR Omega (same like SR-009 with less precision but more romantic tone)
    4. Stax SR-009S (for electronic music very good but not as transparent like SR-009)
    5. Stax SR-007 MK1 SN 70xxx (best 007 clearer than later models and with a natural timbre)
    6. Sennheiser HE-60 (for classic music and Singer/Songwriter very good for other music sometimes to lean)
    7. Stax SR-L700 (allrounder)
    8. Stax Sigma Pro/404 (special with huge soundstage)
    ...
     
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  6. statfi
    I have SR-009, and I have not heard the SR-009S yet, but hope to. I was surprised (but, secretly, pleased) to see your ranking of them. Could you give a couple of musical examples and say more specifically how the two cans are different?
     
  7. statfi
    I have an older SRM-T1 (in addition to my BHSE), bought and used in the USA. It takes a standard IEC 3-conductor power cord. As I have written elsewhere, I have found http://anticables.com/power-cords#!/Level-3-Reference-Series-Power-Cords/p/14644872/category=3461168 to sound better than several substantially more expensive cables, and, in my home, with its wiring and utility service, I find that putting multiple ferrite cores on the power cable improves the sound from the BHSE. (I have not checked that this is true for the SRM-T1, but expect it to be.) The SRM-T1 supports has Pro and Normal Bias. A standard 3-conductor IEC power cable should work just fine.
     
  8. FLguy
    Thank you to those with experience with many models for posting your impressions and rankings - it is very valuable to those who haven't had the chance to hear as many different models (yet).

    I also would like to know where the 007 MkII falls in these rankings. (That model is much easier to find currently of course ). TIA for any comparisons/rankings which include that version.
     
  9. Eich1eeF
    While practically any IEC cable will do, you'll still have to change some internals to adjust a Japanese device to your local mains voltage, or use an external transformer that provides the correct 100V.
     
  10. Pahani
    He is very correct and I had overlooked that detail. My 252S is a Japan model and I purchased a Jameco wall-wart to make it U.S. compatible.

    Both my SRM-1 Mk2 and my 353X are U.S. models though, no power converter needed. I do have a rather beefy converter laying around though, just in case I need one in the future.
     
  11. DrWhite
    Hi,

    İ am reading lots of positive things about L700+srm353x combo. İ'm planning to buy this setup. any suggestions other than this combo for a starter? Changing amp or headphone?

    Mjolnir octave2/3+L700

    Or

    Srm353x + L700

    Srm353xbk is it worth the extra?

    Octave2 vs 353xbk is similar?

    Or

    L700+ srm006ts kimik2

    Or

    Anything better for me under 2500 usd?

    Too many choises, too many questions...
    :)

    By the way i am a hd650 guy.
     
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  12. Pahani
    I haven't answered earlier because of the amps you're considering, I've only had experience with 353X. I can't compare it to anything else.

    353X vs 353X BK though, is an easy one. The amps are absolutely identical, except the BK model is in black and is a Limited Edition.

    I haven't looked, so I'm not aware of a price difference....but I will say I was a bit miffed that the BK model came out a few short months after I bought my 353X :/ I would have purchased the BK model personally, had it been available at that time.

    Most things Stax that are Limited will hold value better over time, I believe.
     
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  13. DrWhite
    Thanks for the answer,

    Are u happy with your l700-353x combo?

    Any need for tube warmness for vocals?
     
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  14. rennwerkes
    I think the original poster's question was about the power cable. If you're in the US this is the cable I bought. You probably could get away with a three prong to two prong adapter with the "regular" US cable (to use into the voltage converter) but I just went for authenticity and ordered this off Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAPAN-6FT-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
     
  15. rennwerkes
    Folks, super stupid question and I suspect it's a moot issue but are headphones that come as a kit with a Japanese voltage driver unit specific to 100V? I just ask because I saw someone selling "120V" Stax headphones. Just wanted to double check.
     

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