The Sennheiser HD 800: The First Listen, The First Review
Feb 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM Post #3,181 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by Fido2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Whatever happened to the ones that came up missing in Vegas at CES? Maybe an industrious young lad or lass could find a sweet street deal? LOL


But as every HD 800 has it's serial number on the headband......................................
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Mar 1, 2009 at 12:14 AM Post #3,182 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by John Willett /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It's always been suggested as March / April in the shops.


Gotta admit i don't like the way April keeps getting squeezed in here. It was never April and i don't know who started that vicious rumor
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No really it was always late February or early March, this April thing is all new, John where are you coming up with April, do you know something concrete that we don't?
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 AM Post #3,183 of 5,928
it was definitely initially advertised as a Feb/Mar release. i generally wouldn't care but was hoping to have the headphone for a meet in late Mar. that seems almost unlikely now.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 12:21 AM Post #3,184 of 5,928
Why does it seem unlikely now. I haven't heard anything from Senn that has changed that except moving it back from the late Feb end to the early March end(where it really originally was-early March)......did i miss something? I've been following the thread, maybe there is another one with different info being released.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 12:37 AM Post #3,185 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by vcoheda /img/forum/go_quote.gif
it was definitely initially advertised as a Feb/Mar release. i generally wouldn't care but was hoping to have the headphone for a meet in late Mar. that seems almost unlikely now.


On Sennheiser's own website it states ... "Reference-class open, circumaural headphones. Available in March/April 2009."
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 1:27 AM Post #3,187 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by John Willett /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It's always been suggested as March / April in the shops.


They should have already been built and available when Sennheiser offered them to the public via advertising and promotion. This is a $1400 audio component that folks have prepaid for, not a steak dinner at a restaurant.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 1:33 AM Post #3,188 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by murrays /img/forum/go_quote.gif
On Sennheiser's own website it states ... "Reference-class open, circumaural headphones. Available in March/April 2009."


That's probably because only us early pre-order peeps will get them from the 1st batch in March.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 1:36 AM Post #3,189 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by Beagle /img/forum/go_quote.gif
They should have already been built and available when Sennheiser offered them to the public via advertising and promotion. This is a $1400 audio component that folks have prepaid for, not a steak dinner at a restaurant.


What an odd statement.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 1:43 AM Post #3,190 of 5,928
Just thought we all needed a reminder of what we're waiting for:

Sound Perfected Sennheiser presents its new top-of-the-range HD 800 headphones

Sound that is as natural as possible and true in every detail: that has always been the vision of all audio developers. With its new HD 800, Sennheiser has now come closer to this target than any other headphones manufacturer has ever done. The new top-of-the-range model from the audio specialist features a completely novel type of transducer and an innovative ear cup design. The key component of the stereo headphones is a 56 mm sound transducer – currently the largest that can be found in dynamic headphones. With the new headphones, Sennheiser is following the tradition set by the legendary Orpheus and has developed a set of high-end headphones that offers the ultimate in reproduction precision and unique spatiality. The exceptional headphones with their breathtaking sound will be shown for the first time at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.


Sennheiser is presenting its new top-of-the-range HD 800 headphones aimed at highly discerning audiophiles who are looking for the ultimate in sound reproduction. With their completely open design, the dynamic stereo headphones combine innovative technology with carefully selected materials and the highest quality workmanship. The result is a level of performance, quality and attention to detail that is clearly audible. The headphones offer an outstanding frequency response of 6 to 51,000 Hz, a brilliant sound image and impressive spatiality. The appearance of the HD 800 is also in keeping with its exceptional sound performance: a puristic design language and a black/silver finish give the headphones a look of exclusive elegance. “We allowed ourselves a lot of time to perfect the HD 800,” explained Maurice Quarré, Product Manager Home Audio at Sennheiser. “Not only to develop the technical intricacies but also to select the finest materials – in other words, we took the time that was necessary to make it perfect in every detail. After all, the sound properties of headphones ultimately depend on the interaction between all the individual components.”


Sound reproduction that is true in every detail: the patented transducer principle
Measuring 56 mm, the transducer in the HD 800 is the largest that can currently be found in dynamic headphones. A completely new design principle allows the purest possible sound reproduction in exceptional detail. The vibrating part of the diaphragm is not a circular surface area but a ring. This ring is able to set the entire air volume over the transducer into motion, generating the full-bodied sound of the HD 800.


The annular design patented by Sennheiser solves the problems relating to the dynamic transducer principle for the first time: “The more transducer surface area is caused to vibrate, the purer the headphone sound becomes at low frequencies. However, transducers with a large surface area have the disadvantage that, at high frequencies, undesired resonances known as eigenforms occur at the diaphragm. This results in distortions in sound reproduction that even high-quality Duofol laminations are not able to completely eliminate,” explained Axel Grell, acoustics developer at Sennheiser. “This is precisely the dilemma that we have resolved in the HD 800. The ring design minimises the distortion of the sound image, even with a transducer as large as 56 mm.” The result is impressive: with total harmonic distortion of less than 0.02 percent (at 1 kHz and 100 dB sound pressure level), the HD 800 has brilliant trebles, precise bass reproduction and a much clearer sound image.


Natural listening experience: the new ear cup design
In the development of the HD 800, special attention was also paid to the design of the ear cups. These are designed in such a way that the sound waves are directed to the ear at a slight angle. This produces an impressively natural listening experience. “We perceive acoustic signals to be natural when we experience them with a spatial extension,” is how Axel Grell describes the basic idea. “Today, most music is made to be reproduced by two loudspeakers, which form an equal-sided triangle together with the listener. This results in a sound field close to the ears that is at a slight angle to the head. When the sound field reaches the ears, the sound is reflected into the ear canal and to the ear drum by the structures of the external ear with slight time differences. It is precisely these differences that are a key factor in spatial hearing and in the localisation of the sound event outside the head. With its large, inclined transducers, the HD 800 generates a sound field that corresponds to the listening experience with loudspeakers, but far exceeds loudspeakers in the purity of the sound reproduction.”


The ultimate in sound reproduction and wearing comfort: top-quality materials and finish
The exceptional sound properties of the HD 800 are supported by selected materials and a top-quality finish. To ensure that the acoustic properties of the headphones are not impaired by any partial vibrations, the transducer is mounted in a specially produced high-precision gauze made of stainless steel. The ear cups are made of high-quality plastic with particularly good attenuation characteristics. What is more, there is no covering at all for the ear cups, as less material means that there is less opportunity for partial vibrations to occur. For the same reason, a special headband was developed for the HD 800. A patented multi-layer design consisting of metal and high-quality plastic attenuates all of the vibrations of the headband, thus effectively eliminating any dips in sound pressure level at low frequencies.


The cables have also been developed especially for these headphones. The four-strand high-performance wires made of silver-plated, low-oxygen copper are specially shielded against electromagnetic disturbance. The two high-precision plugs and the ¼” (6.3 mm) jack plug are gold plated for optimum contact.


The outstanding sound quality is accompanied by excellent wearing comfort. To guarantee optimum fit on the head, the ear cups are suspended on one side only. High-quality plastic material developed for the aviation and aerospace industries ensure maximum stability. With their circumaural design, the ear cups fit precisely round the ears without pressure and are still comfortable to wear even after hours of music enjoyment. The material used for the ear pads is Japanese Alcantara, which is particularly friendly to the skin and easy to clean.


Audio specialist Sennheiser: for the ultimate in headphones
The name Sennheiser has been synonymous with the ultimate in sound quality for many years. The audio specialist already impressed music lovers with successful headphone models such as the HD 580 or the HD 650. Now, the new HD 800 is expanding the top segment of Sennheiser headphones with the addition of an audiophile model that will remind high-end enthusiasts of the legendary Orpheus. The HD 800 was developed and designed at Sennheiser’s corporate headquarters in Wedemark, Germany. And the new headphones will be produced there too – with the usual meticulous attention to detail.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 2:20 AM Post #3,192 of 5,928
The pre-orders were stated as arriving around March from a couple of our Head-fi sponsor, never heard or took the time to look at what Sennheiser was displaying on their website (Mar/Apr 2009). Methinks, some of the February, early March arrival talk came from: (a) a bit of over-optimism and (b) CES.
 
Mar 1, 2009 at 3:06 AM Post #3,193 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by Drumonron /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Just thought we all needed a reminder of what we're waiting for:

Sound Perfected Sennheiser presents its new top-of-the-range HD 800 headphones

“We allowed ourselves a lot of time to perfect the HD 800,” explained Maurice Quarré, Product Manager Home Audio at Sennheiser. “Not only to develop the technical intricacies but also to select the finest materials – in other words, we took the time that was necessary to make it perfect in every detail. After all, the sound properties of headphones ultimately depend on the interaction between all the individual components.”


Natural listening experience: the new ear cup design
In the development of the HD 800, special attention was also paid to the design of the ear cups. These are designed in such a way that the sound waves are directed to the ear at a slight angle. This produces an impressively natural listening experience. “We perceive acoustic signals to be natural when we experience them with a spatial extension,” is how Axel Grell describes the basic idea. “Today, most music is made to be reproduced by two loudspeakers, which form an equal-sided triangle together with the listener. This results in a sound field close to the ears that is at a slight angle to the head. When the sound field reaches the ears, the sound is reflected into the ear canal and to the ear drum by the structures of the external ear with slight time differences. It is precisely these differences that are a key factor in spatial hearing and in the localisation of the sound event outside the head. With its large, inclined transducers, the HD 800 generates a sound field that corresponds to the listening experience with loudspeakers, but far exceeds loudspeakers in the purity of the sound reproduction.”

The outstanding sound quality is accompanied by excellent wearing comfort. To guarantee optimum fit on the head, the ear cups are suspended on one side only. High-quality plastic material developed for the aviation and aerospace industries ensure maximum stability. With their circumaural design, the ear cups fit precisely round the ears without pressure and are still comfortable to wear even after hours of music enjoyment. The material used for the ear pads is Japanese Alcantara, which is particularly friendly to the skin and easy to clean.


Now, the new HD 800 is expanding the top segment of Sennheiser headphones with the addition of an audiophile model that will remind high-end enthusiasts of the legendary Orpheus. The HD 800 was developed and designed at Sennheiser’s corporate headquarters in Wedemark, Germany. And the new headphones will be produced there too – with the usual meticulous attention to detail.



That's one heck of a refresher... I especially like the part about speakers and the items indicated in bold. Question: Is there any other headphone manufacturer that goes into this much effort to manufacture and make sure you understand what you should expect?

In reading the article above, it comes to mind that the PS-1000 wouldn't be able to stand in the same room as the HD 800, yet it costs $300.00 more, and doesn't list what the manufacture went through for the consumer to justify its cost...folks, we have some serious listening to do come Mar/Apr...just saying.

Did anyone used to watch Lebron James play basketball in high-school? If you did, then you could see that he was a freak of nature, a once in a lifetime/generation player, a man-child (ala KG/Moses Malone). As a junior/senior he was a boy ready to play amongst men. The media and people (Professionals/Amateurs) who had seen him play, knew that he was as good or better than advertised, yet you had skeptics and doubters. Long story, short, he has, and continues to live up to the hype. If the HD 800 lives up to it's hype (ala King James), then they set the bar by which all others will be judged in terms of $$$ to benefit. My crystal ball tells me that there are going to be a lot of shoot outs at the OK corral, with your favorite cans, on your favorite gears. Personally, I don't think that the HD 800 is going to be the end all-be all of headphones, but the way that Sennheiser (and a few others, whose opinions I value) makes it seem, they come very close.

When I enlisted Justin at Headamp to build my KGSS it took months, yes months, but when I got it, it was well worth the wait. In the meantime, I went crazy and bought all different types of other stuff to keep my mind and ears right. That is what we should do. We should start making preparations for meets and saving up for different cables, sources and amplification; start selling some of the gears that we have laying around collecting dust; finish building your uber amp or cable, etc. Whatever you do, do something else to take your mind off of the HD 800 and it's soon arrival!

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Mar 1, 2009 at 3:23 AM Post #3,194 of 5,928
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Originally Posted by Snacks /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Did anyone used to watch Lebron James play basketball in high-school? If you did, then you could see that he was a freak of nature, a once in a lifetime/generation player, a man-child (ala KG/Moses Malone). As a junior/senior he was a boy ready to play amongst men. The media and people (Professionals/Amateurs) who had seen him play, knew that he was as good or better than advertised, yet you had skeptics and doubters. Long story, short, he has, and continues to live up to the hype. If the HD 800 lives up to it's hype (ala King James), then they set the bar by which all others will be judged in terms of $$$ to benefit. My crystal ball tells me that there are going to be a lot of shoot outs at the OK corral, with your favorite cans, on your favorite gears. Personally, I don't think that the HD 800 is going to be the end all-be all of headphones, but the way that Sennheiser (and a few others, whose opinions I value) makes it seem, they come very close.


Careful. For every LeBron James, there are 100 Leon Smiths. Lucky for us, Sennheiser has already proven itself to be a player.
 

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