donunus
Headphoneus Supremus
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Ive got a feeling that the differences in sound between the old and new versions have been blown out of proportion by placebo
Originally Posted by windrider /img/forum/go_quote.gif i listen to alot of jrock/jpop and yes definitely, there is a slight problem with the bass. It lacks punch for quite some songs/bass lines are not as pronounced/audible as i would like for some songs; I cant follow the bass line very clearly for some songs. Mids are also so ever very very slightly recessed, but i would say its less of a problem than the bass, and it sort of contributes to the soundstage maybe. i'm quite sure the mids can be improved to a very satisfactory level with a tube amp. Not sure if i'll ever get the bass punch i want though. Speedwise you probably wont complain if its your only headphone, but if you start comparing it to others like grado, you can notice quite a difference in speed. But other than that its a fantastic headphone for all types of music that i listen to, rock,jazz,ballads,jpop/rock (i dont listen to classical/rap/electronica though). Its ok if you dont focus too much on the bass but listen to the song as a whole. Although i dont listen to electronica, but if the recordings already have quite an emphasis on the bass parts, hd600 shld have no problems providing satisfactory bass. Its only slightly bass-light recordings and/or fast complex bass lines that they might have a slight problem with. Also, from what i remember of the dt880, it had more low bass than the hd600. Ad2000 i cant remember if it was deeper or not, but it was kind of a different kind of bass, less bloom, punchier and very audible. Mids were also different on the ad2000; it had enough body, but was slightly bright, with emphasis on upper mids, and was much more forward. Parts were more seperated, but hd600 blends everything together better. I would say you really have to listen to yourself to decide which you like more, but at half the price of ad2000 its hardly possible to go wrong with hd600. Value wise hd600 for sure. |
Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Windrider, About the recessed mids thing, Wilashort will not have a problem with the hd600s balance in that department I don't think since he is coming from the more recessed dt990s Wilashort, The ad2000s might actually overwhelm you with mids. Overall, I find the hd600s mids more natural than any other can Ive heard. It will be recessed when you do an AB test with grados but of course who says grados are a good benchmark anyways. Grado vocals (I'm basing on lower end grados which should be similar in presentation to any other except gs1000) sound like the singer is always speaking in your ears while the hd600 gives a natural space between you and the singer. I am not sure what is more "correct" for the recordings intended purpose but the hd600 sounds more like there is a performance in your head with space between every member of the band while the grados sound more like everything is shoved directly into your ears. |
Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thats what I meant wilashort. If You think the dt990 mids are close to neutral then the ad2000 will be too much maybe. The hd600s are in between but they have a sweeter sound than both. As for the speed, The 600 isnt slow IMO. I feel that opinion is highly overbloated here on headfi. They actually have a more natural sense of speed than anything Ive heard except when you are talking about the bass. Its faster than beyers just to have a frame of reference. Grados to me for example are not really super fast either, they just seem like it because of the extra highs in the region where you will get fooled into thinking there is some major speed in the sound of the cans. |