SHOOTINGTECHIE
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I can also agree with him the 3DT was not that good , lacked alot of details and nuances I'm treble region , SA6 was much better
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IEMusic
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This is the Penon thread. I mentioned some other IEMs just in comparison, but I think they should be discussed in their own dedicated threads.
I have to say, I think my Volt is continuing to open up in the treble region. They really like a lot of playing time to “mature”. Such a smooth sounding IEM.
I have to say, I think my Volt is continuing to open up in the treble region. They really like a lot of playing time to “mature”. Such a smooth sounding IEM.
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tgx78
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This.
You reminded me to measure my Volt again after 4-5 months of ownership to see if those quad ESTs really do opened up.
Maybe they do.
using same Azla SednaEarfits for the measurement
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IEMusic
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Wow, perfect graphic representation of what I’m hearing. Thanks!This.
You reminded me to measure my Volt again after 4-5 months of ownership to see if those quad ESTs really do opened up.
Maybe they do.
using same Azla SednaEarfits for the measurement
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For those genres I mentioned and a 'companion' or complementary iem to the Volt I was thinking about the Mangird Tea.
Ive read that the Tea has good speed and detail, which would be important for faster more complex songs with many things all happening at the same time.
SHOOTINGTECHIE
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Penon fan did open up quite nicely after 24 hours of burn in , the mid bass is coming up and the thin male vocals are not mostly gone but it might be my preference that they need to be more thick , but they are better than when I first tried it ..
Treble has more air now
Rock and pop I like a lot here , will be putting up an more better subjective impressions later on .. but for the price of 69$ it's really good ..
Treble has more air now
Rock and pop I like a lot here
, will be putting up an more better subjective impressions later on .. but for the price of 69$ it's really good ..
IEMusic
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Replied here:
Post in thread 'IEM for metal music and hard rock - ultimate solution'
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/iem...d-rock-ultimate-solution.885104/post-16194593
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Can somebody please share a comparison between the Orb and ISN D10 , thanks ,,,
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Falling down from the stars of the electrifying Volt atmosphere here...
While I don't think I'm entitled to write a full review, I'm willing to provide a (hopefully concise enough) insight about my experience with the Penon FAN after a few hours break-in and a few days of playing with it, because I think they don't deserve to be bashed as much as I've been reading in some recent posts. Quite the opposite.
If you're interested in knowing why, please feel free to read along...
While I don't think I'm entitled to write a full review, I'm willing to provide a (hopefully concise enough) insight about my experience with the Penon FAN after a few hours break-in and a few days of playing with it, because I think they don't deserve to be bashed as much as I've been reading in some recent posts. Quite the opposite.
If you're interested in knowing why, please feel free to read along...
Intro:
I couldn't resist the early-bird half-price discount I've been offered by Penon, whose guys have been really nice to me after I returned a faulty GS849 cable I didn't _really_ need: fully refunded and very kind and quick response from their support team... I kind of felt I owed them another go at one of their products!
The main reason I went for the FAN was that my go-to "cheap" plug 'n play single-ended set - the ThieAudio Legacy 3 - had a cracked right-side plug and I wanted to have a backup set at hand just in case that the whole piece fell off irreparably.
First look:
The cloth box the FAN comes with is simply outstanding. Perfect size and great feeling in use. At first sight and touch, I was sure that at least the box would stay with me for good. Once opened, I was pleased to witness how the earpieces looked and felt beautiful, net of the sub-100$ price bracket.
The cable? Not so much, but I thought that is was ok for the price all in all.
First impressions:
Awful. Plain awful. Sorry, I have no better way to express my initial thoughts.
I started trying every single tip among the ones that came with the set right away - starting with the most obvious M Green silicone choice - and I couldn't get a proper seal out of _any_ of them. The nozzle is slightly thicker than my other IEMs', so I had a tough time trying to slip my go-to M SpinFit CP100s in, and even then comfort and isolation were lacking, to my utmost surprise since I've always got good results on other sets. Then I heard something completely off coming from the left earpiece...
Ouch. The grill collapsed, but that was probably all on me trying too hard to squeeze the nozzle into my ear canals in search of a proper fit.
Penon provides a couple of extra grill pieces (kudos for this!) so I pulled this one out with a needle and slipped a new one in. This did the job.
Finally, I had to settle on a pair of foamies I don't even remember where they came from. I'm definitely not a FAN of foam eartips, but those M-ish ones did the job and incredibly didn't mess too much with the sound. Speaking of which...
Out-of-the-box Sound:
"Boxy", as I tend to call it. More-than-just-shy, scared mids. Hazy trebles. Upper-bass cannons (and I like subbass focus).
Desolation filling my soul right off the bat when I first plugged the FAN into my Samsung Note10 Lite smartphone.
I thought: "Found a good fit, but where to now?!". My disappoinment with the sound was overwhelming, but I was motivated not to give up just yet.
This precious post from @Sam L offered oratory1990's Harmanish equalization, so off I went enabling those AutoEQ results (which I dialled in days before the FAN came!) into Neutron MP. As an important side-note, I'm one of those who regard EQing as a crime: things should show their (hopefully peculiar-good) character, but since the FAN had a nasty one I was pushed to commit the crime, and...
"Ow. Now we're slowly getting there!" I thought. Went on and tweaked those EQ settings a little bit to suit my taste. Still, while soundstage width was definitely not bad and separation benefitted from first EQing, the FAN lacked in dynamics and energy and - net of a safe -6dBFS pre-(de)amplification - I had to crank the volume to a whopping 75/100 to get a decent volume. Flat-sounding. Hm. "Not there yet".
Coupling:
Despite the single-ended use I was willing to reserve the FAN for, I swapped the stock cable with a 4.4mm balanced Linsoul LSC08 I've got a while back for the Legacy 3, regardless of the fact that they might start an all-Chinese war when coupled. Hah.
Plugged the upgrade-wired FAN into my FiiO M11Pro Pentaconn output and wow... Night and day, with the same equalization!
These IEMs need a decent quality amplification and power to shine. Now I knew.
Back on my laptop. HQPlayer 4 Desktop upsampling to DSD256 and feeding a brand-new Khadas Tone2 Pro mini DAC-amp...
Once convolution-EQed, the results were also excellent thinking how the whole experience started. A really enjoyable team-up!
The bedside S.M.S.L M200+SP200 experience was equally nice, but hey... Let's not get into this! Not the use the FAN is for, at least for me. A shot is worth dropping though!
Conclusion:
At the discounted price, and if you have spare tips and cables and patience with EQing, the FAN is a highly recommended set.
It needs a little work. It needs power. But the results I've got after all this are nothing short of stellar. The technical capabilities of this set are fenomenal for the price!
On the other hand, if you're not willing to tweak anything like I was at the beginning, the FAN are likely going to be a huge disappointment, I'm afraid.
I couldn't resist the early-bird half-price discount I've been offered by Penon, whose guys have been really nice to me after I returned a faulty GS849 cable I didn't _really_ need: fully refunded and very kind and quick response from their support team... I kind of felt I owed them another go at one of their products!
The main reason I went for the FAN was that my go-to "cheap" plug 'n play single-ended set - the ThieAudio Legacy 3 - had a cracked right-side plug and I wanted to have a backup set at hand just in case that the whole piece fell off irreparably.
First look:
The cloth box the FAN comes with is simply outstanding. Perfect size and great feeling in use. At first sight and touch, I was sure that at least the box would stay with me for good. Once opened, I was pleased to witness how the earpieces looked and felt beautiful, net of the sub-100$ price bracket.
The cable? Not so much, but I thought that is was ok for the price all in all.
First impressions:
Awful. Plain awful. Sorry, I have no better way to express my initial thoughts.
I started trying every single tip among the ones that came with the set right away - starting with the most obvious M Green silicone choice - and I couldn't get a proper seal out of _any_ of them. The nozzle is slightly thicker than my other IEMs', so I had a tough time trying to slip my go-to M SpinFit CP100s in, and even then comfort and isolation were lacking, to my utmost surprise since I've always got good results on other sets. Then I heard something completely off coming from the left earpiece...
Ouch. The grill collapsed, but that was probably all on me trying too hard to squeeze the nozzle into my ear canals in search of a proper fit.
Penon provides a couple of extra grill pieces (kudos for this!) so I pulled this one out with a needle and slipped a new one in. This did the job.
Finally, I had to settle on a pair of foamies I don't even remember where they came from. I'm definitely not a FAN of foam eartips, but those M-ish ones did the job and incredibly didn't mess too much with the sound. Speaking of which...
Out-of-the-box Sound:
"Boxy", as I tend to call it. More-than-just-shy, scared mids. Hazy trebles. Upper-bass cannons (and I like subbass focus).
Desolation filling my soul right off the bat when I first plugged the FAN into my Samsung Note10 Lite smartphone.
I thought: "Found a good fit, but where to now?!". My disappoinment with the sound was overwhelming, but I was motivated not to give up just yet.
This precious post from @Sam L offered oratory1990's Harmanish equalization, so off I went enabling those AutoEQ results (which I dialled in days before the FAN came!) into Neutron MP. As an important side-note, I'm one of those who regard EQing as a crime: things should show their (hopefully peculiar-good) character, but since the FAN had a nasty one I was pushed to commit the crime, and...
"Ow. Now we're slowly getting there!" I thought. Went on and tweaked those EQ settings a little bit to suit my taste. Still, while soundstage width was definitely not bad and separation benefitted from first EQing, the FAN lacked in dynamics and energy and - net of a safe -6dBFS pre-(de)amplification - I had to crank the volume to a whopping 75/100 to get a decent volume. Flat-sounding. Hm. "Not there yet".
Coupling:
Despite the single-ended use I was willing to reserve the FAN for, I swapped the stock cable with a 4.4mm balanced Linsoul LSC08 I've got a while back for the Legacy 3, regardless of the fact that they might start an all-Chinese war when coupled. Hah.
Plugged the upgrade-wired FAN into my FiiO M11Pro Pentaconn output and wow... Night and day, with the same equalization!
These IEMs need a decent quality amplification and power to shine. Now I knew.
Back on my laptop. HQPlayer 4 Desktop upsampling to DSD256 and feeding a brand-new Khadas Tone2 Pro mini DAC-amp...
Once convolution-EQed, the results were also excellent thinking how the whole experience started. A really enjoyable team-up!
The bedside S.M.S.L M200+SP200 experience was equally nice, but hey... Let's not get into this! Not the use the FAN is for, at least for me. A shot is worth dropping though!
Conclusion:
At the discounted price, and if you have spare tips and cables and patience with EQing, the FAN is a highly recommended set.
It needs a little work. It needs power. But the results I've got after all this are nothing short of stellar. The technical capabilities of this set are fenomenal for the price!
On the other hand, if you're not willing to tweak anything like I was at the beginning, the FAN are likely going to be a huge disappointment, I'm afraid.
HiFlight
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I also gave the 3DT a fair try but to my ears it lost the fight against my Volts by several rounds!
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The E-pro horns are excellent, enjoy...
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I see u got 2 pair of horns. That's very easy to invert!
Top pair, inverted horns.
I am currently using Volts with OE audio pure silver cable. Can’t decidedly say that it sounds bette than stock but it’s definitely thinner and more comfortable.
What do people think about higher end cables and do you seem to think that something like Totem would make them sound a lot better? I am not a cable sceptic by the way and open to different perspectives
What do people think about higher end cables and do you seem to think that something like Totem would make them sound a lot better? I am not a cable sceptic by the way and open to different perspectives
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superuser1
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I am aware of that .. and i was also mentioning the same iem you mentioned to give the reader a broader perspective.
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