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[msing539]

Indeed!
I'd consider Serial Space orange tips Modest end game. I'm happy and very content.

Hmm... you've convinced me to try them. Feel free to send me your set of tips and I'll give them a shot.

 

[Leonarfd]

Indeed!
I'd consider Serial Space orange tips Modest end game. I'm happy and very content.
Big Bass, excellent neutral mids, generous treble - not overdone, Holographic imaging capabilities (source dependent) huge, deep venue, very decent resolving power with analogue flair.
Life is easy on this set...

Would have been fun to compare the Penon Serial with Penon Flow vs the Penon Mix.

I find the Mix perfect with serial: tightening the bass, adding detail, expanding the soundstage and cleaning up the mids to some degree.
The Mix is perhaps closer to a pure silver cable than copper. I bought the Mix to use on my EST50 but it stayed with the Serial.

 

[LoryWiv]

Would have been fun to compare the Penon Serial with Penon Flow vs the Penon Mix.

I find the Mix perfect with serial: tightening the bass, adding detail, expanding the soundstage and cleaning up the mids to some degree.
The Mix is perhaps closer to a pure silver cable than copper. I bought the Mix to use on my EST50 but it stayed with the Serial.

I just purchased a Penon Mix to use with my (hopefully) soon to arrive AüR Audio Aure. I am hopeful the pairing will be excellent.

 

[Meme123]

i don't know about structure or "recette" of Nicehsk Greenmood, and i don't trust blablabla claim on many Ali cables, but after more than 200 hours with Impact, this combo bring Impact with realism/tone/soundstage and holographic that i'm looking to level of the Bird
this cable will replace permanent PWA1960s, still missed the MID sweet sound with Stock Oscidian but reward with the "ALL" around elements combine elevate Impact to the level i really enjoy, and for the first time over 30 trial all kind of Haldane/CEMA/Penon/Hakugei .. THIS cable worth every penny i spend for, cheap doesn't mean bad, just synergy after all
note: not very expensive to trial when Ali sale event happen again, and take note i'm always treat all my cables with thin coat of stabilant 22, and @F700 maybe right 8 strands cable may does the trick

 

[Redcarmoose]

ISN H40 and Penon Vocal cable:

Taken from the ISN thread:
My Gosh, the H40 is insanity....pure insanity! So smooth and of an ambiance that enhances the lushness! In fact this lushness was always there with the H40 experience, yet now somehow it’s better heard?

I mean part of all this is I don’t maybe listen to the H40 enough, and I am slightly prejudice due to price? So the H40 always reminds me anyway of why it was the first and most successful ISN IEM.

But to get back to the sound demo, the midrange is now more forward yet due to the exact tune the H40 always has vocals which are not grainy or too much. They are amazingly clear, clear and positioned into a slight movement of forward into the stage. But the end result and what is the almost complete basis for the mini-demo is that they are HUGE, bigger than any IEM priced around or near the H40!

This HUGENESS is something and maybe not exactly what you buy the H40 for, but maybe it is? Remembering back to me review of the H40, the comparisons to the EST50 was that they had to pull back the total forwardness of soundstage in order to gain detail. So the EST50 gets its detail performance by stepping back and adding refinement of objects (better sculpted) into the stage.

Still there is a magic with the H40, and in-fact that magic is enhanced by the Penon Vocal cable! It’s (to me) literally perfect with the H40, and maybe even a little better than the EST50?

Penon Vocal priced at $69.00

 

[Bosk]

Your review was very interesting with all the cable impressions. So which cable did you settle on for your Impact?

I've been using the Impacts with an Ares S 4 wire. Tried a Liquid Links Martini but the synergy isn't there, so I ordered an Ares S 8 wire which should arrive in a week or so.

Using the N8ii improves the Impact's bass texture & quantity markedly over the M6U, yet I find adding my heavily-modded Little Bear B4-X to the chain really kicks things up another notch in the bass department. It also broadens the stage, makes instruments feel larger, gives the presentation a greater sense of effortlessness, improves dynamics and makes picking out small details even easier. There's a small loss of transparency but I have a Cardas Clear 3.5mm interconnect which helps in that regard, and the 2.5mm > 4.4mm Totem pigtail adapter Penon sent (my modded B4-X only has 2.5mm output) is also an improvement on the ddHifi 2.5mm adapter I was using.

Considering the N8ii has one of the best amp sections of any DAP on the market this says a lot for just how well IEMs & the Impacts in particular scale with amplification, which is an audiophile barrow I never grown tired of pushing given my firm belief the biggest compromise we make in the portable hobby is in amplification. I can only imagine how jaw-droppingly massive & three dimensional the Impacts' stage would become when projected through a cost-no-object desktop tube amp with NOS tubes.

My wallet is fighting very hard to resist the temptation of splurging a tremendous amount on an all-Brise system consisting of a Tsuranagi amp, Yatono Ultimate 8 Wire IEM cable & Yatono 4.4mm interconnect. I've no doubt it would sound absolutely glorious despite being fully transportable rather than tethered to a desk. That's the problem with this hobby, no matter what you have & how good it sounds there's always that nagging itch to reach the next level purely because you know it exists.

 

[yaps66]

More serial love!

 

[rawbine]

Would have been fun to compare the Penon Serial with Penon Flow vs the Penon Mix.

I find the Mix perfect with serial: tightening the bass, adding detail, expanding the soundstage and cleaning up the mids to some degree.
The Mix is perhaps closer to a pure silver cable than copper. I bought the Mix to use on my EST50 but it stayed with the Serial.

So very glad you shared these bits of information. I haven’t came across with anyone else here that finds the Mix as you described. The Mix does indeed skewed towards the higher frequencies despite having lesser silver cores, pretty similar to what CEMA OG equivalent does as comparison.

Also shows how chameleon like all Penon in-ears truly are - selection of ear-tips, cables, adapters, dac, amp, dap, etc. the entire chain if you will will influence the final output to a certain degree where in some instances/pairing being quite drastic (only applies to those who believe in such a thing of course ). Another observation - all Penon cables are musical in nature, again highly subjective yes.

Now the Flow is entirely different from Mix, very un-silver like, more like a hybrid/blend of up-occ with silver that gives out rich resolving qualities and then some. I also believe all Penons silver lineup shared similar characteristics plus there’s also some form of linearity in what they do, skinny Neo included. Flow is simply a firehose as @-rowan- puts it equivocally. It accentuates every band in the frequency and does it smoothly and effortlessly.

 

[Redcarmoose]

The Space - enlarges Serial Bass in amplitude and in scale, without obstructing the Mids in any way...

I totally agree the Space and Serial were absolutely made for each other. A marriage made in Heaven! Cheers!

 

[Redcarmoose]

Is anyone else's 2 pin connectors really tight on their Serial, or is it a defect? And is it the cable or the IEMs?

You are not the first one i've talked to that have the problem with Serial's 2 pin. However, idk if theirs are cable related or IEM related

It sounds like you got this questioned answered. What I do (especially with new IEMs) is I take multiple approaches. I never force the pin (like Dsnuts said) but don’t really rock the pin back and forth either. Remember the holes in the IEM were designed to accept a pin at the angle they are at. What does happen is slowly the 2Pin receivers in the IEM will change their circumference a little, that will then allow you to get a stubborn pin in. Once in a blue moon do I ever get a slightly lose pin female hole. Maybe 1 or two in my history, and it’s not like the IEM is going to ever fall off, except you can kinda tell when one side has a slight looseness to it, as there is less friction taking the cable off and on.

 

[Redcarmoose]

Would isn Est50 be upgrade from Penon Globe soundwise? Also are they similar in size and isolation? I'm narrowing it down to those to at the moment, but when on the go, isolation is a priority...

I will do a complete side by side listening test for you when I get home tonight.

 

[SQ13]

Office set up from DAP balanced into amp to Serial (obsidian cable)

 

[s2kphile]

Throwing that new VOCAL cable on the Serial. More impressions to come. All I can say is "wow".

"You best start believing in cables guys...you've got one here".

 

[ehjie]

Best Wishes...

 

[Leviathant]

Got my Impact yesterday and I’ve been enjoying what I’m hearing so far. Not as instantly impressive as I found the Serial to be right out of the gate but I know I need time to adjust (again to BA bass).

Few questions; they’ve included a blue braded pigtail extender. Is this the Totum pigtail I’ve heard about? Sorry for my ignorance but what is it’s purpose? What’s it made of? Is it meant to subtly change the sound of any other cable or is it purely to extend the length of the cable I’m using? Sorry if this is covered elsewhere; I did try and search the thread.