I am sorry I didn't mean to offend you , I was just joking. Anyway I deleted the OP before your response as this is not the place for this argument.
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IEMusic
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No, you are not wrong either. You are fully entitled to your opinion on matters. Just express them as such, and don‘t attack others for having differing opinions. Not hearing differences in cables saves you money, so just enjoy that aspect.I am sorry if I offended anyone. You are right. I was wrong.
Maybe it is an ability to acquire over time , who knows. I don't know, it's very confusing .There are lots of videos on this subject , people, even academics who bring up scientific reasons to back the claim that cables can't have an effect on SQ. Either way, I can't hear any differences, and I am more than happy about it.
”Science” has become such an amorphous and meaningless term these days. Many people‘s science simply constitutes interpreting data in the way that supports their preexisting opinions and narrative. I‘m still waiting for “science” to define what things are beautiful and what things are ugly.
ehjie
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My very first Freq.gen. ever!
The Sphere on Linum bax and SD++
Even without smoothing, clearly the tuning is superb and that peak before 16k, is louder than how it's shown.
Happy New Year everyone...
The Sphere on Linum bax and SD++
Even without smoothing, clearly the tuning is superb and that peak before 16k, is louder than how it's shown.
Happy New Year everyone...
SenorChang8
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I‘m still waiting for “science” to define what things are beautiful and what things are ugly.
Eugenics is an even bigger can of worms than cables lol.
I guess I have super human hearing. I can easily hear differences with cables. I can clearly tell the differences between all these cables in my collection. Obviously, some have more of an effect on certain iems, than others. By the way, I was skeptic for years, until I "trained" my ears to hear small differences, by trying more gear. It took a good while, but now I can't unhear the differences. However, I totally get that some people don't have as good of hearing, and I know I am blessed.If not then either few people have superhuman hearing that can heat these incredible differences or are really delusional.
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Nice one, and agree.Eugenics is an even bigger can of worms than cables lol.
Nice man! I look forward to seeing many more.My very first Freq.gen. ever!
The Sphere on Linum bax and SD++
Even without smoothing, clearly the tuning is superb and that peak before 16k, is louder than how it's shown.
Happy New Year everyone...
I am happy for you.. And I and many others should rue our luck that we can't reach a special realm of audio nirvana like some people can. Lol.I guess I have super human hearing. I can easily hear differences with cables. I can clearly tell the differences between all these cables in my collection. Obviously, some have more of an effect on certain iems, than others. By the way, I was skeptic for years, until I "trained" my ears to hear small differences, by trying more gear. It took a good while, but now I can't unhear the differences. However, I totally get that some people don't have as good of hearing, and I know I am blessed.
IEMusic
Headphoneus Supremus
FWIW (not much at all), I can here some differences with cables and certain IEMs, mostly when changing the conductor material, such as pure copper to pure silver. I have not tried any expensive cables (none over $100 aftermarket), and don’t know if I would hear obvious differences or not. I don’t doubt at all that others do. I personally just choose to not go down that path, and accept that I may be missing out a bit. I’ve made the same choice with sources as well. To each their own.I am happy for you.. And I and many others should rue our luck that we can't reach a special realm of audio nirvana like some people can. Lol.
ehjie
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Your not the only one. My brain somehow picks up nuances, low level details (nowadays, micro detail) from my fav. tracks, that i've been playing over and over, for a very long time. From the beginning of my journey, portables to home hi-fi and back again to portables.I guess I have super human hearing. I can easily hear differences with cables. I can clearly tell the differences between all these cables in my collection. Obviously, some have more of an effect on certain iems, than others. By the way, I was skeptic for years, until I "trained" my ears to hear small differences, by trying more gear. It took a good while, but now I can't unhear the differences. However, I totally get that some people don't have as good of hearing, and I know I am blessed.
And i keep doing them till this day, lols...
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Nice man! I look forward to seeing many more.
Thanks, I'm still getting the hang of this. Will do...
I have said many times , I have had many blissful experiences listening to music even from old cassette players. So objective SQ is one thing, level of enjoyment is a whole other thing. A line should be drawn to how much we wanna be a tool in the hands of mind.FWIW (not much at all), I can here some differences with cables and certain IEMs, mostly when changing the conductor material, such as pure copper to pure silver. I have not tried any expensive cables (none over $100 aftermarket), and don’t know if I would hear obvious differences or not. I don’t doubt at all that others do. I personally just choose to not go down that path, and accept that I may be missing out a bit. I’ve made the same choice with sources as well. To each their own.
BobJS
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I have both as well and I'd suggest you try the Volt with either the OSG cable or Totem cable. The Volts scale extraordinarily well with cable changes. Incidentally, the Totem cable is also my favourite cable with my MESTs too (for context, I have tried them with EA Code 51, EA Leonidas II Octa, EA Cleopatra Octa, PW Audio 1950s, PW Audio 1960s, EA Janus Basso, EA Lionheart, Dunu Hulk, EA Ares II, Eletech Iliad, Eletech Plato, Eletech Socrates, Eletech Fortitude, Eletech Prudence and several other high end cables - whilst many of them were very good, none quite matched the synergy that the Totem has with the MEST for some reason). I loved the Totem so much that I bought another one, in fact. I'm sure @davidmolliere will back me up on my thoughts about the Totem too.
I did actually A/B the Volt between the stock cable and the OSG, and actually preferred the stock. It sounded a little less bright (flatter) with the OSG. I don't think this is expectation bias because my expectations were that I would prefer the OSG.
I don't know why I can't get on board with the Volt. I probably need to spend a couple of weeks with it alone and maybe I'll come to appreciate it. This won't happen soon, however because I just got a Legend X in the house and I need to spend time with my new toy (my precious).
BobJS
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I guess I have super human hearing. I can easily hear differences with cables. I can clearly tell the differences between all these cables in my collection. Obviously, some have more of an effect on certain iems, than others. By the way, I was skeptic for years, until I "trained" my ears to hear small differences, by trying more gear. It took a good while, but now I can't unhear the differences. However, I totally get that some people don't have as good of hearing, and I know I am blessed.
Some might speculate you are cursed (like your accountant).
LOL! So true!Some might speculate you are cursed (like your accountant).