Dec 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM Post #1,651 of 2,849
I agree here. The honeymoon for me ending rather quickly as well. I now feel like they're still solid picks in the $30 dollar range, but they become outclassed in sound quality as soon as they hit the $40 bracket as Superluxes start becoming affordable. They just resolve detail so much better and are so much quicker than the HTF600s. The HTF600s don't even get any head-time with me anymore, but I do appreciate them as being one of my most comfortable headphones ever with the velour pads. 
 
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I'm gonna side with you.  Over this last weekend, I did some extensive A/B tests, and I can say the honeymoon is over. I fell victim to all the excitement and let my own excitement get in the way of a clear mind.  In the end, these are not very good cans.  You can eq them and make them pretty good, but they still aren't overly solid.  I will use them as cheap travel cans, but that's about it.
 
I'm sorry I added to the fervor over this.  

 

 
 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 12:24 AM Post #1,652 of 2,849
I've had a chance to listen to several inexpensive headphones over the past few weeks and I've come to the conclusion that they all commit the same basic sin - they all have a significant upper bass/lower midrange hump that removes definition and muddies the sound.
 
I think this is either done purposely in order to try and conceal a lack of true deep bass extension or it is a side effect of excessive resonance from poor design and build quality. Most likely, it's a combination of both.
 
What I will say is that these Panny's at least have an unfatiguing quality that makes them more enjoyable than a lot of sibilant cheap phones I've heard. This quality also makes these Panny's a good choice for low bitrate recordings.
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 3:38 AM Post #1,653 of 2,849
I just got the M-Audio Q40 and damn I have to compare it to these HTF600 as it was a very positive suprise. Immediatly at first listen without any burn-in I'm already liking these! They have a quite similar balance as a burned-in HTF600 but where I notice the Q40 does nicely which suprised me heavily was the soundstage, these have quite large soundstage for a closed headphone with drivers positioned so close to the ears. These are just a little brighter than the HTF600, about perfect my ears/taste without any need for EQing (I would lower around 8kHz just very slightly), I will probably find slight improvements to make with the EQ as usual but they do sound good out of me out of box and the bass is nice, big impact, so I think the FR curve for this Q40 isn't far off from the HTF600, around 8kHz the Q40 has a slight peak but nowhere near as big as in this graph though:
 

 
I can't say for sure which I prefer yet but I'll have to burn-in these Q40 before deciding anyway.
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 6:00 AM Post #1,654 of 2,849
Anyone want to donate a broken or unwanted pair of HTF600s to me?
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Screwed up one of the drivers while trying to put it into the Beyer's 45mm housing. Diaphragm is a little crinkled but worst of all is I started sanding down the side of the driver to fit into the housing without considering how it might affect the sound. I want this transplant to be done cleanly, and sanding it down all around unevenly in an effort to get it to fit was a mistake. I should have just sanded down the tabs on the Beyer housing instead and use glue to stick the drivers on. That ensures consistency across both drivers.
 

 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM Post #1,655 of 2,849

 The Pearstone fit, they cost as much as the beyer.   B&H has both in stock.
 
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So besides the Beyer Velous Pads, are there any other ear pads that fit this headphone?
 
Like how about the Shure 840's. Those were pretty comfty.



 The Z02 is much more than an amp or bass boost. It's very flexible and very inexpensive for what it is.  if you're talking about the cmoybb, sure the bass is more than enough, but for another 30 dollars, the digizoid has been praised by every nephew I have gifted it to. Ages from 18-29
I think it's worth it.
 


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I've been stuck between amping with a CMoy and the ZO2 for awhile. So would the cost be worth the extra for the ZO2 or would the CMoy be plentiful for bass at the price.



 
   On a side note, I don't understand the folks bummed on the thread, they cost 30 bucks, which I'm about to spend for lunch. with some minor mods, they are very fun, if not accurate. Besides, I learned of the Samson SR850 on this thread, I'd pay Dsnuts 30 bucks just for that tip alone. Mind boggling value there. Anyone know where to order velour earcushions for them?
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 11:02 AM Post #1,656 of 2,849
AKG K240 velour pads should fit.
 
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   On a side note, I don't understand the folks bummed on the thread, they cost 30 bucks, which I'm about to spend for lunch. with some minor mods, they are very fun, if not accurate. Besides, I learned of the Samson SR850 on this thread, I'd pay Dsnuts 30 bucks just for that tip alone. Mind boggling value there. Anyone know where to order velour earcushions for them?



 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM Post #1,657 of 2,849
I picked up a pair used for $25 from a forum member here...I am satisfied for the money I spent.  Comfortable, decent build, and sound better than most headsets I have heard for the same money.  Well worth the investment IMO.  Not my primary cans but for late night listening at home they are a good fit performance/budget wise.
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 PM Post #1,658 of 2,849


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   On a side note, I don't understand the folks bummed on the thread, they cost 30 bucks, which I'm about to spend for lunch. with some minor mods, they are very fun, if not accurate. Besides, I learned of the Samson SR850 on this thread, I'd pay Dsnuts 30 bucks just for that tip alone. Mind boggling value there. Anyone know where to order velour earcushions for them?


Except for one or two people, I don't get the impression that anyone is really "bummed" by the HTF-600. Mostly, people are just commenting on their observations - positive and negative. This is a good thing.
 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 8:47 PM Post #1,659 of 2,849


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I agree here. The honeymoon for me ending rather quickly as well. I now feel like they're still solid picks in the $30 dollar range, but they become outclassed in sound quality as soon as they hit the $40 bracket as Superluxes start becoming affordable. 


I agree too. For $30 they make some hint of OK sound but compared to headphones in the $40-50 range they are rubbish. Bass is boomy and the top end is all out of whack.
 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 9:02 PM Post #1,661 of 2,849
If you never watch a movie with Beyers 880s or 990s, then yes.  If you ever watch a movie with those Beyers, then no.
 
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Are they decent enough for watching movies?
 
 



 
 
Dec 20, 2011 at 9:58 PM Post #1,664 of 2,849
The only headphones I've really heard in the $40-50 range is the Superlux series, and I felt they blew away anything I heard in the $30 bracket. The low-budget Head-Fi standbys of the JVC HARX700  and the Pannies were left behind in terms of detailing. Superluxes would have had even higher praise from me if they didn't seem bright.
 
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You can really make a distinction between $30 headphones and $45 headphones?
 



 
 
Dec 21, 2011 at 2:18 AM Post #1,665 of 2,849
Many Thanks to this topic about the Panasonic HTF600 which because of it helped me a lot on deciding which headphone to choose with a low budget.

I've seen the members talking about headphones like Samson SR850,Panasonic RP-HTF600 and Panasonic RP-HTF890.

I'm planning on getting a new headphone and a Asus Xonar DG sound card on my PC. Sometimes I use them for Gaming and sometimes for Music,but mostly for Music and I assume that getting the Panasonic RP-HTF600 is the best choice for me but I would like to know more about other headphones before I buy it. (Or maybe there are other recommended models?) 

So can anyone please list out the difference between them with these aspects?

Sound Quality:
1st
2nd
3rd

Comfort (For long-term usage):

Portability (Sometimes I'm planning on using them on my phone and sometimes on the PC):

Quality (Durability):

Thanks.
 

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