The Official 64 Audio Thread | apex & tia Technologies
post-15997228
Post #14,671 of 15,626

gLer

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 27, 2017
Messages
5,157
Reaction score
5,458
Location
South Africa
Joined
Apr 27, 2017
Location
South Africa
Posts
5,157
Likes
5,458
Just to add, Odin clarity is excellent but sometimes can sound exaggerated. Fourte sound more natural especially vocals and giving a better euphoria/emotional sound.
Vocals are one of 64 Audio's strength IMO. Nio is particularly euphonic and my favourite for vocals out of the Nio/U12t/Trio, but all three have superb vocals (Trio doesn't like bright or poorly recorded vocals though, whereas the other two are far more forgiving).
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997238
Post #14,672 of 15,626

DavidS11

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 19, 2019
Messages
640
Reaction score
858
Location
AP
Joined
Jun 19, 2019
Location
AP
Posts
640
Likes
858
Vocals are one of 64 Audio's strength IMO. Nio is particularly euphonic and my favourite for vocals out of the Nio/U12t/Trio, but all three have superb vocals (Trio doesn't like bright or poorly recorded vocals though, whereas the other two are far more forgiving).
Yep, 64 Audio have good tuning that won’t go wrong :)
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997511
Post #14,674 of 15,626

Edyeded86

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Messages
178
Reaction score
39
Location
UK
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Location
UK
Posts
178
Likes
39
Hey guys,

Slightly off topic, but looking for a super portable DAC to pair with my OnePlus 8 Pro and U12ts? I was thinking about the Dragonfly Cobalt, but heard conflicting reviews on it being too expensive?

Any recommendations and feedback on use with the DFC would be really appreciated.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997545
Post #14,675 of 15,626

gLer

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 27, 2017
Messages
5,157
Reaction score
5,458
Location
South Africa
Joined
Apr 27, 2017
Location
South Africa
Posts
5,157
Likes
5,458
Hey guys,

Slightly off topic, but looking for a super portable DAC to pair with my OnePlus 8 Pro and U12ts? I was thinking about the Dragonfly Cobalt, but heard conflicting reviews on it being too expensive?

Any recommendations and feedback on use with the DFC would be really appreciated.
EarMen Sparrow (https://earmen-shop.com/products/sparrow) or Lotoo PAW S1 are you two better bets. The Sparrow for sure would be better than the Dragonfly, especially if you use your IEMs balanced, and is $100 cheaper than the Cobalt.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997562
Post #14,677 of 15,626

xenithon

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
3,291
Reaction score
703
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Posts
3,291
Likes
703
Do these normally come with M15 or M20? I don’t see an option to choose when I go to purchase.
Depends on the model. The likes of the U12t come with both M15 and M20; the Nio comes with those plus the MX; and of course some have built-in (i.e., not interchangeable) modules such as the Trio.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997599
Post #14,679 of 15,626

Deezel177

Reviewer at The Headphone List
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
4,951
Reaction score
12,970
Location
Jakarta, Indonesia
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Location
Jakarta, Indonesia
Posts
4,951
Likes
12,970
Website
www.TheHeadphoneList.com
Not sure why there are past complaints about the original Fourte like incoherent sound, funny stage and wonky tonality... I just had it for a few days and even though it has been almost 4 years since it was initially released, it still sounded great to me. It is very musical and vocals have accurate tones true to real voices. Technicalities are at high level as well. Am I missing something?
I feel it’s because most of the Fourte’s liberties lie in the midrange, and the midrange is arguably where you have the most leeway in terms of colouration. A slight excess of bass or a misplaced treble spike can be enough to ruin a signature, while the mids tend to be more of a subjective area. As I mentioned on my Noir review, I personally found the 1kHz dip a tad noticeable. But, it can still be a fun, enjoyable listen, regardless. As always, it all comes down to taste.

Do you think listening to music from my phone with the a18s would be an issue? I read some reviews saying it doesn’t down scale very well compared to the a12t.
Have reviews said that about the A18s? Are you sure it wasn’t the A18t? One of the things 64’s added with the A18s is LID technology, which essentially preserves the signature of the IEM no matter what device you plug it into. I think it works flawlessly out of a phone, or even the noisy headphone output on my Yamaha CL5 at church. You’d definitely get stronger dynamics and more holographic imaging out of a high-end DAP, because its DAC is able to decode more of that information. But, I’d see it more as room to grow, rather than a necessity for the IEM to “sound good”.

Do these normally come with M15 or M20? I don’t see an option to choose when I go to purchase.
Both my A18t (retail purchase) and A18s (review sample) came with both M15 and M20 modules. I don’t know whether or not that’s changed with their new packaging and accessories set.

Interesting, most consider the Odin a 'reference' IEM and the Fourte a 'fun' IEM and you have that swapped around. Funny how people hear and describe the same IEMs so differently.
I’d tend to lean ever-so-slightly more towards what you’ve said, but the A18s is what I’d personally call my mixing reference. But, I also know of others who prefer the A18t for its brighter, crisper treble. So, yeah, we’re gonna have to settle for “funny” on this debate. :p

How does the sub bass of the a18s compare to the a12t?
They should be equal on extension. The A12t just has a bit more of an emphasis there.
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       
post-15997628
Post #14,681 of 15,626

Deezel177

Reviewer at The Headphone List
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Messages
4,951
Reaction score
12,970
Location
Jakarta, Indonesia
Joined
Feb 5, 2015
Location
Jakarta, Indonesia
Posts
4,951
Likes
12,970
Website
www.TheHeadphoneList.com
Thanks, maybe they were talking about the a18t. I’m just trying to justify whether I should spend the extra 1k for the a18s.
Yeah, audio terminologies aside, at the end of the day, the best option will be the one that fits your needs and circumstances best. The A12t is no slouch by any means too. It’s 64’s most popular model among touring artists for a reason.
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: KuroKitsu and gLer
post-15997633
Post #14,682 of 15,626

Mike7300

New Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 9, 2020
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Location
charlotte
Joined
Sep 9, 2020
Location
charlotte
Posts
15
Likes
0
Yeah, audio terminologies aside, at the end of the day, the best option will be the one that fits your needs and circumstances best. The A12t is no slouch by any means too. It’s 64’s most popular model among touring artists for a reason.
do you think that’s because the a18s is newer and eventually they will switch over?
 
     Share This Post       
post-15997655
Post #14,683 of 15,626

Vitaly2017

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Dec 8, 2017
Messages
6,023
Reaction score
6,120
Location
Montreal
Joined
Dec 8, 2017
Location
Montreal
Posts
6,023
Likes
6,120
Age
34
Mr. X’s speaker sounding tia Fourte vs Mr. T’s tia Fourte Noir :tiger:


Hahah thats me 😛😛😛😛

I met with him hes a very cool guy and he also have the original fourte 🙃 I did a/b them vs noirs too. He also have Odin!

By the way did you get your fourte new or second hand?

Its this buddy right here hehe
@HIFI Butterfly
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: DavidS11
post-15997661
Post #14,684 of 15,626

toaster

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 13, 2004
Messages
2,308
Reaction score
1,699
Location
nyc
Joined
Jan 13, 2004
Location
nyc
Posts
2,308
Likes
1,699
Not sure why there are past complaints about the original Fourte like incoherent sound, funny stage and wonky tonality... I just had it for a few days and even though it has been almost 4 years since it was initially released, it still sounded great to me. It is very musical and vocals have accurate tones true to real voices. Technicalities are at high level as well. Am I missing something?
I think the thing about the fourte is, whether or not you find the "incoherent sound," "funny stage," and "wonky tonality" to be endearing or unpleasant.

Literally all the people I've spoken with who like or dislike the fourte, agree that it has some or all of the aforementioned attributes. I definitely did not find the the tonality of the fourte to be accurate in the slightest, as you do...however, just like you, i enjoyed the fourte quite a lot when i heard it. it's actually one of the few iems i've heard through the years that i'd like to revisit sometime.

It's interesting you're saying you're not hearing these characteristics of its sound; perhaps you're just digging it so much that you don't realize that these are precisely the things you like about the fourte?

The best thing i've seen written about the fourte is a quote by part-time hf reviewer and part-time action hero, @PinkyPowers (paraphrasing here):

"The fourte aims for real, but overshoots, and lands somewhere in Narnia." :upside_down:

Hope you keep enjoying the new fourte, man!
 
Last edited:
post-15997662
Post #14,685 of 15,626

mwhals

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jul 26, 2015
Messages
2,936
Reaction score
1,632
Joined
Jul 26, 2015
Posts
2,936
Likes
1,632
do you think that’s because the a18s is newer and eventually they will switch over?
I think it is because the A12t is just that good. The fact it is $1000 less is amplified when an artist purchases them for the entire band.
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: KuroKitsu and gLer

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 22, Guests: 8)

Top