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Yep, 64 Audio have good tuning that won’t go wrongVocals are one of 64 Audio's strength IMO. Nio is particularly euphonic and my favourite for vocals out of the Nio/U12t/Trio, but all three have superb vocals (Trio doesn't like bright or poorly recorded vocals though, whereas the other two are far more forgiving).

Mr. X’s speaker sounding tia Fourte vs Mr. T’s tia Fourte Noir 
Hey guys,
Slightly off topic, but looking for a super portable DAC to pair with my OnePlus 8 Pro and U12ts? I was thinking about the Dragonfly Cobalt, but heard conflicting reviews on it being too expensive?
Any recommendations and feedback on use with the DFC would be really appreciated.
Slightly off topic, but looking for a super portable DAC to pair with my OnePlus 8 Pro and U12ts? I was thinking about the Dragonfly Cobalt, but heard conflicting reviews on it being too expensive?
Any recommendations and feedback on use with the DFC would be really appreciated.
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EarMen Sparrow (https://earmen-shop.com/products/sparrow) or Lotoo PAW S1 are you two better bets. The Sparrow for sure would be better than the Dragonfly, especially if you use your IEMs balanced, and is $100 cheaper than the Cobalt.Hey guys,
Slightly off topic, but looking for a super portable DAC to pair with my OnePlus 8 Pro and U12ts? I was thinking about the Dragonfly Cobalt, but heard conflicting reviews on it being too expensive?
Any recommendations and feedback on use with the DFC would be really appreciated.
Do these normally come with M15 or M20? I don’t see an option to choose when I go to purchase.
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Depends on the model. The likes of the U12t come with both M15 and M20; the Nio comes with those plus the MX; and of course some have built-in (i.e., not interchangeable) modules such as the Trio.Do these normally come with M15 or M20? I don’t see an option to choose when I go to purchase.
How does the sub bass of the a18s compare to the a12t?
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I feel it’s because most of the Fourte’s liberties lie in the midrange, and the midrange is arguably where you have the most leeway in terms of colouration. A slight excess of bass or a misplaced treble spike can be enough to ruin a signature, while the mids tend to be more of a subjective area. As I mentioned on my Noir review, I personally found the 1kHz dip a tad noticeable. But, it can still be a fun, enjoyable listen, regardless. As always, it all comes down to taste.Not sure why there are past complaints about the original Fourte like incoherent sound, funny stage and wonky tonality... I just had it for a few days and even though it has been almost 4 years since it was initially released, it still sounded great to me. It is very musical and vocals have accurate tones true to real voices. Technicalities are at high level as well. Am I missing something?
Have reviews said that about the A18s? Are you sure it wasn’t the A18t? One of the things 64’s added with the A18s is LID technology, which essentially preserves the signature of the IEM no matter what device you plug it into. I think it works flawlessly out of a phone, or even the noisy headphone output on my Yamaha CL5 at church. You’d definitely get stronger dynamics and more holographic imaging out of a high-end DAP, because its DAC is able to decode more of that information. But, I’d see it more as room to grow, rather than a necessity for the IEM to “sound good”.Do you think listening to music from my phone with the a18s would be an issue? I read some reviews saying it doesn’t down scale very well compared to the a12t.
Both my A18t (retail purchase) and A18s (review sample) came with both M15 and M20 modules. I don’t know whether or not that’s changed with their new packaging and accessories set.Do these normally come with M15 or M20? I don’t see an option to choose when I go to purchase.
I’d tend to lean ever-so-slightly more towards what you’ve said, but the A18s is what I’d personally call my mixing reference. But, I also know of others who prefer the A18t for its brighter, crisper treble. So, yeah, we’re gonna have to settle for “funny” on this debate.Interesting, most consider the Odin a 'reference' IEM and the Fourte a 'fun' IEM and you have that swapped around. Funny how people hear and describe the same IEMs so differently.
They should be equal on extension. The A12t just has a bit more of an emphasis there.How does the sub bass of the a18s compare to the a12t?
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Thanks, maybe they were talking about the a18t. I’m just trying to justify whether I should spend the extra 1k for the a18s.
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Yeah, audio terminologies aside, at the end of the day, the best option will be the one that fits your needs and circumstances best. The A12t is no slouch by any means too. It’s 64’s most popular model among touring artists for a reason.Thanks, maybe they were talking about the a18t. I’m just trying to justify whether I should spend the extra 1k for the a18s.
do you think that’s because the a18s is newer and eventually they will switch over?Yeah, audio terminologies aside, at the end of the day, the best option will be the one that fits your needs and circumstances best. The A12t is no slouch by any means too. It’s 64’s most popular model among touring artists for a reason.
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Mr. X’s speaker sounding tia Fourte vs Mr. T’s tia Fourte Noir
Hahah thats me




I met with him hes a very cool guy and he also have the original fourte

By the way did you get your fourte new or second hand?
Its this buddy right here hehe
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I think the thing about the fourte is, whether or not you find the "incoherent sound," "funny stage," and "wonky tonality" to be endearing or unpleasant.Not sure why there are past complaints about the original Fourte like incoherent sound, funny stage and wonky tonality... I just had it for a few days and even though it has been almost 4 years since it was initially released, it still sounded great to me. It is very musical and vocals have accurate tones true to real voices. Technicalities are at high level as well. Am I missing something?
Literally all the people I've spoken with who like or dislike the fourte, agree that it has some or all of the aforementioned attributes. I definitely did not find the the tonality of the fourte to be accurate in the slightest, as you do...however, just like you, i enjoyed the fourte quite a lot when i heard it. it's actually one of the few iems i've heard through the years that i'd like to revisit sometime.
It's interesting you're saying you're not hearing these characteristics of its sound; perhaps you're just digging it so much that you don't realize that these are precisely the things you like about the fourte?
The best thing i've seen written about the fourte is a quote by part-time hf reviewer and part-time action hero, @PinkyPowers (paraphrasing here):
"The fourte aims for real, but overshoots, and lands somewhere in Narnia."
Hope you keep enjoying the new fourte, man!
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I think it is because the A12t is just that good. The fact it is $1000 less is amplified when an artist purchases them for the entire band.do you think that’s because the a18s is newer and eventually they will switch over?