Yes I did receive an email when they shipped. They only received 3 units in the initial shipment though.
Thanks! Yes you are. Give your ears time to adjust if you are used to the U12t. Speed and detail retrieval are definitely high points of the U12t but I think the Nio is more geared toward progressive rock recordings like Dream Theater's to bring out the energy and exciting and musical sound signature. If for some reason you're missing some detail, you can always EQ the treble just slightly on the Nio to kick it up a notch!
Love the FR, thanks for posting! Surprising people have said the treble isn't very airy or sparkly with that treble extensionHey guys, I finally got my hands on the 64 Audio Nio.
I have only listened to them for a relatively short time (apex mX only). What I can say so far is that they are underwhelming in the most positive way. I want to say flawless. Usually high-end IEM boast with some special trait or have a unique sonic character. The Nio are refined to the point that they are... boring? Well, that's a word I am only allowed to use because I listen to the A18t daily. I can imagine that soundstage, imaging and clarity can absolutely knock some people off their feet - but then there's also the A18t. To me, the Nio are warm, natural and well balanced. I'll let my hearing adjust for a while first before I draw a conclusion.
As you can tell, I'm not a bass head and I really like the lows with apex mX. I'll switch the apex modules tomorrow, but I doubt I will prefer either m15 or m20.
I have also tried the mX with the A18t and I have to say that I cannot really recommend it. The lows aren't there where they are needed to create a larger soundstage. That way mids are very forward, which is ok, but the m15 + A18t is the combo where I want the tuning to be! Nio + mX is almost shockingly close, to be honest.
I do think that A18s and mX could be a new reference for me and even knock the A18t out of the park. But that's just a guess that I probably will never be able to confirm.
Anyway, I measured the Nio. I will not upload the graphs to my site because I haven't listened closely enough to confirm them. But the graphs nicely show the difference between the apex modules (pictured: m20, m15, mX). As with my measurements before, I can only confirm a 1 dB difference between m15 and m20. Doesn't matter which demo (or custom) I use, the measured difference is always negligible (though actual difference in ear pressure is very apparent). The new mX is very different, though.
This is measured with my usual setup: RME ADI-2 Pro > IEC 60318-4 (711) > REW (psy-smoothed). As I said, I can't fully confirm the measurement yet (regarding treble), but feel free to compare with other 64 Audio models: https://www.klauseulenbach.de/iem-frequency-response/
I've had the best luck with these weird tips that I found on Amazon. The bore matches the size the 64 nozzles very well and they maintain a great balance of bass, treble and comfort. Their seal is very gentle as well because they are extremely soft.
I hope you get yours soon! Between those two in what sense? They're all so different lol.Ah man, you're making me so excited! Can't wait to get mineWould you say the Nio is somewhere between the U12t and Trio? I found the bass on the Trio to be great, but I preferred everything else from the U12t.
Well, a bit like I said earlier : great bass like the Tia Trio, but with the detail retrieval and accuracy of U12t ! Trying to narrow down the signature somehow
Congrats on getting the Trio. On mine I use Campfire Audio Marshmallow foam tips. I find these comfortable with great isolation.
The **** 8 Core is pretty good. You can use the extra money to buy another IEM instead
LOL for some reason the name of the cable is hidden.The **** 8 Core is pretty good. You can use the extra money to buy another IEM instead
Oh lol, I said Y i n y o o, but I was just joking. I like the Dunu cables, but not sure if that's good enough for you!
I haven’t wanted to go full shill about them yet so I only mentioned a few things lol. They are so nice to listen to. I can’t wait until more people get theirs.I also received my Nio! It was delivered testerday morning morning and I've had quite a few good hours of listening. Damn they are good. I think it's one of the best hybrid all arounders. I have a trio and an lx ATM and can't say that for either of them.
NONE OF YOU MENTIONED HOW PHENOMENAL THE NIO IS WITH FEMALE VOCALS. This is what has blown me away the most. They really bring out the emotion. To me female vocals sound best with the m20 module. The mx module brings too much air into them for my liking. With the m20, I'd say the Nio's female vocals are somewhere in the ballpark of the VE8 and it's proficiency with male vocals. As everyone else said, technicalities do take a backseat with the m20. Although the Nio might have the tonal pleasantness of the VE8, the VE8 maintains technicalities a bit better. That's ok for me, though.. A beautiful vocal presentation is worth that cost, and it's great that were not stuck with one setting!
Soundstage/imaging isn't something I don't really think about with smoother IEMs. They just let you enjoy your music more instead of focusing on the iem. That being said, even with the m20, I was surprised at how deep the soundstage sounded with some tracks. It could be that they were recorded that way but it was pleasant nonetheless. Width is average. Nothing to write home about. As you go from the m20 to the m15 and then to the mx, it does improve in these aspects, though.
There's good rumble for rap and also great midbass for kick drums and such in rock music. It does tilt towards mid-bass though. The LX is still my go to for rap, the Trio for EDM, and the Nio for basically anything else. I will say that the Nio can be better for some EDM subgenres, but for a lot of the trance I listen to, the Trio is difficult to surpass.
Highs are somewhat smooth as everyone said, but not enough that bad recordings are too easy to listen to. They still have some bite.
Something nobody has talked much about is isolation. The last 64 iem I had with Apex modules was the u12t and I didn't feel like isolation was very good. I was on the go for a lot of my listening with the Nio and mostly used the m20 module. I was quite surprised at how great isolation was. I'd say it's better than even the Tia Trio, which has no apex modules (or it's built in?).
Comfort is great. The fit is somewhat similar to the Trio but not quite the same because the dome that precedes the nozzle is a different shape and the nozzle itself is a tad shorter.
The Nio is so easy to recommend, even if you HAVE to purchase it blindly, which I did
Not sure if it's very common for a new product to be getting that much praise, but it seems very promising when everyone says it sounds really nice.
